Posted: 5/7/2008 7:13:30 PM EDT
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Am I the only one that's walked into a random restaurant/sandwich shop while not carrying and noticed that they serve alcohol for consumption on premises and thought.. "hmm, never thought they would serve alcohol.. glad I happen to not be carrying right now." OR... Does anyone else have a list of places that they choose not to go to specifically because it's off limits for CCW? I'm also wondering if anyone else will be lifting their personal "boycotts" on said places provided HB89 passes. Thoughts? |
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Well there are a few places I will not go unless I am carrying. There are also places that i go and wish I could carry. One of which being my college that I attended. Being in a room with 1 entrance/exit and the thought of a guy with a gun standing in it does not bode well with me. As far as what you said I really do not carry enough to be worried about it. |
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Main Entry: con·ceal Pronunciation: \kən-ˈsēl\ Function: transitive verb Etymology: Middle English concelen, from Anglo-French conceler, from Latin concelare, from com- + celare to hide — more at hell Date: 14th century 1 : to prevent disclosure or recognition of <conceal the truth> 2 : to place out of sight <concealed himself behind the door> synonyms see hide — con·ceal·able \-ˈsē-lə-bəl\ adjective — con·ceal·ing·ly \-ˈsē-liŋ-lē\ adverb — con·ceal·ment \-ˈsē(ə)l-mənt\ noun For the record, I do not advocate breaking any law. I also know most LE folks understand the letter of the law and the SPIRIT of the law. Mark |
not illegal to carry in a bank though... |
It is not just the misdemeanor ticket. Number one, a misdemeanor in Georgia is one year in jail and a $1,000 fine. At a minimum, you will be arrested (not ticketed) and booked into the local jail, where you will be accomodated in a "bullpen" type arrangement with lots of other offenders, violent and nonviolent alike. Whether you are then forcibly sodomized repeatedly and catch AIDs will depend upon a lot of other factors. Anyway, you will have to post a bond to get out of jail. In all likelihood, you will spend at least one night there (see previous paragraph) and appear before a judge late on a subsequent afternoon without having brushed your teeth or showered. Then you will be tried and sentenced months later. After that, even if you get a year's probation, you will be disqualified from eligibility for a firearms license. Let's say it takes six months to get to trial. A year of probation. Then you are ineligible for the license for another 3 years after that. So, we are talking about almost 5 years. The AIDs will get you by then, so we can safely assume that you cannot carry for the rest of your life after this incident. |
Metal detectors? What if you have keys in your pocket of other metal items? Do they search you at the entrance? |
Yeah, I would explain that they can kiss my ass for stopping me and embarassing me with a stupid metal detector. Then, I would find a new bank. There are WAY too many banks to stay with one that does some crap like that (metal detector + explain why you have a gun). I have no idea what areas are off-limits, for the most part, as I am usually unaware if something is or is not a public gathering, whether they serve alcohol or not, etc., and they don't post any "off limits" signs that I have seen. |
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My wife , kids and I went to an Italian restaurant last night to eat. About 6 feet from the door, I remembered that A) I was carrying and B) they serve alcohol. I excused myself and went back to leave it in the car. As I locked it in the glovebox, I said to myself "I sure hope HB89 gets signed so I won't have to worry about this in July." I've always been told that carrying in a prohibited place can get your carry privileges revoked. I'm sure a criminal would not have thought twice about carrying into the restaurant. |
| I left the j-frame in the car while eating last Sunday. The Chinese restaurant served beer...therefore illegal. I would probably play stupid most of the time if caught, but this was in Athens and I know the Athens .gov has a real chapped ass about the park ban deal. |
Having it locked in the glovebox in the parking lot is illegal, too. 
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So, then what is the lesser of two evils? Keeping the gun concealed on your person in the restaurant (assuming you aren't bellied up to the bar doing triple vodka shots) or locking it in the car? Either way ain't legal. Which way possibly protects the gun from being stolen? Which provides you with the means to defend your family in a violent encounter? I have two words for you folks: Luby's Cafeteria. (Just playing devil's advocate here. I would never break a stupid, unconstitutional law. )Mark |
Just keep in mind the risk.
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The silverware on the table should be adequate enough to defend yourself, right? In all seriousness, if you do leave the gun in the car, lets say the restuarant has a shared parking lot w/ other businesses. Can you park in front of one of the other businesses and not be breaking the law leaving your gun in the car? |
But, but... You are an evil jack-booted thug! ENTRAPMENT!!!  Hypothetically, what would happen if say I was at a range with a bunch of LE buddies and we left to go to a Mexican restaurant for lunch , sat in the bar area and I was open carrying? Not saying I would do or have done that. Afterall, them po-po is a bunch of evil dudes who live for the sole purpose of denying my rights. Bastards.  Mark |
Well, nothing happened to LarryG openly carrying at the Atlanta airport . . . . . .
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I allways keep extra on hand for just such case...Wife said I should come down off DEFCON 3 when the door bell rings...espically when the folks from the church stop by I get funny looks there on Sunday I dont know why 
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I didn't think this was illegal. Can you help me out with GA code? |
Hubbard v. State
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Farmer v. State
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Sorry.  I think it was my first thread here, ever, when LarryG made the claim that it is not illegal to carry in Hartsfield and that he has done it in a shoulder holster. He did not take me up on my offer to videotape him doing it. I was not "worth it" or something like that. |
this made me lirl. |
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Ahh, I see. I had no idea that leaving a gun in my car while I went to a restaurant that serves alcohol could get me arrested. I think I'll be including this in my letters regarding HB 89. Thanks for the good info and case law quotes. |
I of course moved the car across the street into a legal parking lot. |
Seriously? What are we supposed to do with our guns while eating at the restaurant, then - teleport them home with our magic teleportation wands? I always take it out of my holster and stick it in the car console box before I go inside. I never drink, and I thought that was the legal thing to do. So, what, we have to park across the street and walk across to the restaurant? How is that any better? Since I am so obviously an evil redneck and/or black man who should not have a gun and will no doubt get loaded on whiskey, couldn't I still stagger across the street and fetch my gun? Couldn't I get a taxi home, get my gun, and come back, for that matter? Why does it matter where the gun is, so long as it is not on my person while I am in the off-limits place? Isn't my car an "extension of my home" in GA gun laws? Does that mean I can't have a gun in my home if I live close to a bar? There comes a point where the laws are too obsfucated and/or obtuse to be understood or followed by the common man. I think GA gun laws are already at that point. It's a "gee whiz, I hope I'm legal right now - guess I'll find out if I get arrested" deal. |
You're asking me, like I wrote it? 100 to 200 yards is what the court has said is still accessible, but we do not yet know what distance the court would say is not accessible. 
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