Posted: 3/15/2008 4:24:55 PM EDT
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I just saw this on Lou Dobbs / CNN. Looks like it aired a few days ago. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/03/13/ldt.tucker.govt.guns.cnn?iref=videosearch blackgunbob |
. Remember these are terrorist weapons and the tide is turning...
The presence of M16 parts in the fire control group kinda takes away from the "malfunction" argument. Everyone here (I assume) knows what a slam fire condition is. With some of the key machinegun parts in place, and without the machinegun sear in place, it is still possible for the weapon to slam fire. This is the reason the ATF changed the ammo, as we all know some primers are more sensitive than others. Changing the ammo is no trick, just a common sense approach to making a case. If the weapon was capable of allowing the hammer to strike the firing pin on the second round without need to release the trigger, you basically have a machine gun. Otherwise, it really does not matter how sensitive the primers are. When you remove semi-auto parts from a rifle and replace them with machinegun parts, it really don’t take a genius to figure out what happens next. 
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He didn't do this!!!  THIS RIFLE CAME FROM OLYMPIC ARMS WITH M16 PARTS IN THE LOWER. Colt has put M16 parts in their rifles in the past. This is a fairly common practice. Give me your AR15 or any AR15, and I bet I can have it slamfiring in under 10 minutes. That's not the point. It does not a machine gun make. 
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| Yup, the M16 parts were in the gun from the factory. The ATF told Olympic to stop doing this and replace all of the FCG back in the 80's. This gun obviously didn't get returned and this information was not allowed to be presented during the trial because the ATF claimed that the files containing the information contained "privileged" tax information and the judge couldn't see them. I have yet to see any evidence at all proving that he was not railroaded. |
Everybody knows what a disconnector does, and what happens when it does not do its job. This guy had military experience, I would dare say he knew the difference. Evidently, so did the jury. I have heard the legend of M16 parts in civilian guns for years. I know for a fact that early Colts had modified (cut) M16 disconnectors and hammers, and a simple comparison between ar15/M16 will show how simple of a modthis was. However, I have never, ever seen or heard from a credible source of a full in spec M16 fire control part (except springs/pins and maybe a trigger) in a civilian gun. |
I have a friend who's Oly AR-15 fired more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger a couple times and it had NO M-16 parts in it. And besides, having some M-16 parts in an AR-15 does not make a machine gun and there are plenty of people in this country that do not no the difference between AR-15 parts and M-16 parts. Under Staples v. United States (511 US 600) the government has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he KNEW his gun was a machine gun. I would be interested in finding out how they managed to prove this, given that his friend fired more than 800 rounds though it before it shot twice with one pull of the trigger and then jammed. |
| There has been a 50+ page thread in the political section that the guy involved authored. He goes by bladerunner or something here on arfcom. As far as the machine gun parts go, he said somewhere in that long post that he replaced the entire fire control group in 1994 with a DPMS group. |
Then you have led a very protected life. This used to be very common practice. But since the FFs wanted every civilian equipped exactly like the military, the 2nd prevents the Fed from making gun laws, and the 39 SCOTUS decision clearly showed weapons used by the military were protected from the Fed this shouldn't be a crime anyway. |
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Fucking stupid! BATFE and the Att.Gen have their heads up their asses! This is just wrong plain and simple! Not to mention this guys lawyer must suck bad. BATFE has shamed the good name of my fathers beloved agency. Yes, I am an ATF baby and was for damn near 30 years. Shame on you guys....  My dad is rolling over in his grave.Clearly a miscarriage of justice.  Tis a sad day.
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