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AR15.COM
5/23/2007 7:11:17 AM EDT
Gun owners forced the NC Senate to gut SB 8 which would have made it illegal to carry any firearms in or near parks, playgrounds, parking lots ect.

See the new bill here:

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2007/Bills/Senate/HTML/S8v2.html
5/23/2007 7:39:43 AM EDT
[#1]
Am I missing something--the link only seem to relate to illegal drug sales.
5/23/2007 7:57:33 AM EDT
[#2]
HB 1847 failed it's second reading also....Thankks GNRC
5/23/2007 10:31:31 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
HB 1847 failed it's second reading also....Thankks GNRC

Out of curiosity, what don't we like about this bill?
5/23/2007 8:20:03 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm glad they change SB8 -- it was very poorly written.  I tried to contact the main sponsor (Boseman) and she is a terrible anti-gunner.  Guns go against her "moral" values, even though she is a lesbian that is involved in a custody battle for her kid with her ex-girlfriend (according to my local newspaper).  

HB1847 was also VERY poorly written law, that victimizes law-abiding gun owners a second time if their gun is lost or stolen. By simply not reporting theft "in time", you become a CRIMINAL.  Even worse, it could basically be called the "Gun Trafficker's Protection Act" since it would create a way for illegal traffickers to remove themselves from responsibility if one of their guns was used in a crime.

Read about it at:
www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=2966

5/23/2007 8:21:49 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Am I missing something--the link only seem to relate to illegal drug sales.


Yes, you're missing the part they took out about NOT being able to carry a gun within 1,000 feet of a school or playground (even with a permit).  

Read Section 2 of the FIRST edition of this stupid law, which is my understanding?? that no longer applies.

www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2007/Bills/Senate/HTML/S8v1.html

Thanks again to GRNC.
5/23/2007 10:57:39 PM EDT
[#6]
 Wed 05/23/07 04:08 PM

 

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Grass Roots North Carolina, P.O. Box 10684, Raleigh, NC 27605

919-664-8565, www.grnc.org, GRNC Alert Hotline: (919) 562-4137

GRNC Alert 5-23-07:

MESSAGE DELIVERED, LOUD & CLEAR

TRIPLE WIN: VIGILANCE STILL REQUIRED

Today, you and thousands of other GRNC members and supporters won
three decisive victories in the North Carolina legislature. In short,
the thousands of e-mails and phone calls you directed to legislators
delivered your message, loud and clear.

Details follow, but the short version is that HB 1847 (stolen guns)
went down in flames, SB 8 (gun ban in parks, child care centers and
playgrounds) was amended to *completely* remove gun language, and SB
466 (concealed carry of *toy* guns) did not come to a vote, probably
(but not certainly) rendering it dead.

HB 1847: "PROSECUTE LAWFUL GUN OWNERS"

GRNC killed the bill in a 77-41 floor vote in the NC House. Not only
is the bill dead (as opposed to lingering to be fought next year),
but GRNC got a clean recorded vote which, we assure you, will be used
to punish anti-gun politicians in the 2008 elections.

What made the victory sweeter was not only winning over anti-gun
politicians in the Democratic party, but also routing the strategy
used by lobbyists for North Carolinians "Against Gun Violence" to
divide the Republican caucus: As with HB 1287 a few weeks ago, NCGV
couched gun control as a law enforcement issue, winning support from
a Republican former sheriff and now House Rep. JOE KISER (R-Lincoln,
GRNC evaluation under review), who worked to draw Republicans to the
anti-gun side. Given that this was the centerpiece of NCGV's
liberally-funded legislative agenda, you owe yourselves thanks.

In the floor vote, thanks are due to Reps. MARK HILTON (R-Catawba,
GRNC ****), PRYOR GIBSON (D- Anson, Union, ***), BILL FAISON (D-
Caswell, Orange, 0-star), BILL DAUGHTRIDGE (R- Nash, ****), RONNIE
SUTTON (D- Robeson, *), and BONNER STILLER (R- Brunswick, ****).

SB 8: "GUT NC CONCEALED HANDGUN LAW"

With this bill, your earlier input appears to have delivered the
message. Sponsor JULIA BOSEMAN (D-New Hanover, GRNC 0-star) preempted
problems by introducing a committee substitute that completely
eliminated gun-related portions of the bill, rendering it irrelevant
to GRNC.

The harmless version of this bill passed through the committee.
Warning: Amendments to the language could be added to again include
anti-gun language. Go to: http://grnc.org/alerts/autoemail.htm to
send a message that the present version of the bill is acceptable
ONLY because it does not include gun control.

SB 466: 'EXPAND CONCEALED CARRY, INCLUDE TOY GUNS'

Discussed in one of 3 (yes 3) Senate J-1 committee meetings, the bill
was rendered PROBABLY dead by virtue of making the Thursday crossover
deadline. Keep your eyes open in case the opposition finds a way to
ambush us.

CONGRATS TO *ALL OF US*

Not since the dark days of the 1990s have we faced-much less
killed-this much anti-gun legislation. Thanks are due not only to
GRNC leadership-who prepared alerts, updated the website, stalked the
General Assembly, and spent untold hours researching, prepping,
driving, etc, but...

TO YOU. Here is the reality:

* If we sent alerts to which you didn't respond, we would lose.

* If GRNC didn't deserve your support, we would lose.

* If you didn't trust GRNC to respond in the (perhaps imperfectly)
best way possible, we would lose.

* IF WE LOWER OUR GUARD FOR *A SINGLE MOMENT, * WE WILL LOSE. *


5/24/2007 6:36:20 AM EDT
[#7]
Excellent!

My communicating with my reps paid off.

5/24/2007 2:32:57 PM EDT
[#8]


Lets keep our eyes open for the next wave.