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12/28/2008 7:27:21 AM EDT
I've always been under the impression that Taurus guns were...crappy. I've never had any experince with them, other than rumors and hearsay.  Does anybody know anything abou t their 1911's?  They look ok, but if they are really crap I'll just hold out for Smith & Wesson or a Springfield...
12/28/2008 7:31:17 AM EDT
[#1]
I too have been eyeing them.

From what I've heard, they're chock full of MIM'd parts, if that bothers you.  Obviously the fit & finish are not going to be Wilson Combat quality, but I've never heard anyone disparage their reliability or function.
12/28/2008 7:39:58 AM EDT
[#2]
I've been looking hard at a S&W 1911PD...The price is about right and the one S&W 1911 I've shot was spectaular in feel and accuracy.

The Taurus 1911ALR is also priced right, but for some reason I've always lumped Taurus into the same catagory as Hi-point and Lorcrin...maybe I'm just wrong though..


S&W 1911PD:


Taurus 1911ALR:
12/28/2008 7:43:39 AM EDT
[#3]
I've never owned a Taurus gun, but it seems every time I'm visiting one of the gun shops I frequent someone is returning one because something is wrong with.  However, most of the people seem to be pleased with their customer service.
12/28/2008 8:01:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Well, they used to be good, IMO.  Their Beretta clones were, for a while, claimed by many to actually have better fit and finish than Italian made Berettas.

I have a 669 .357 Mag that was bought in the Early 90's.  It is excellent, sweet ass sweet single action trigger, great finish, uber-accurate.  I have even fooled a few S&W Fans with it, till they get a closer look at it.  

I have a PT145.  I love the concept of a sub-compact 10 round .45.  But, the G30 (and glocks in general) just don't point well for me.  The PT is great! Accurate, mild in recoil, points more naturally than my finger, and conceals so easy.

But, I have had an assortment of problems with it, mostly light strikes.  And, then I discovered a 'feature' where any pressure on the safety prevents the trigger from reseting.   Considering my thumb generally rides the safety, this is a bad thing. And, the gun is small enough, you can't really avoid touching the safety.  I haven't decided if I want to return it to Taurus for repair (which I hear their service is both a long wait and 50/50 chance of the problem(s) actually being resolved) or if I want to trade it off towards a G30SF and hope the glock works out for me...

So, I kind of consider them like a WASR.  There are good Tauruses (Taururi?) out there, but they're hard to find, and unlike a WASR, it's more than just a bad finish and a canted sight to watch out for...
12/28/2008 4:22:10 PM EDT
[#5]
I have had very good luck with Taurus revolvers. I have heard of many problems with the autos. Guntest magazine confirms this also. I have heard no bad reports on the 1911s, The other autos I would avoid. CB
12/28/2008 4:45:57 PM EDT
[#6]
I have several friends who have bought the Taurus 1911 and they all rave about it.

I have a Taurus snub nose .38 revolver, and it did have an issue with the cylinder locking up after recoil, but a trip to the factory (on my dime) fixed it, and thousands of trouble-free rounds later it's a carry gun now.


12/28/2008 4:49:01 PM EDT
[#7]
never really heard anything too awful bad about them, although i personally dont like the way they feel in general.
12/28/2008 4:53:29 PM EDT
[#8]
I've had a Taurus revolver since 1986.  It's never failed me.  Still looks good and shoots to point of aim, every time.  Don't know what else you could want???

YMMV
12/28/2008 5:24:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Well a simple Google search on the Taurus 1911 will yield roughly 50% Despise it and it is crap, 50% Love it and think it is a great bargain. I have had a Taurus PT99AF for several years, it has never failed to function, It eats any 9mm that I put through it, never a hiccup. I know several folks with Taurus Revolvers who think pretty highly of them, my PT99 has very nice fit and finish, but I know a guy who bought one in the "Shiny" stainless finish, and it had constant issues with the hammer dropping for no reason, then once you fired it again it would work fine for a while then arbitrarily drop again. But they do stand by their warantee but be prepared for a wait while it gets fixed. I have talked to a local dealer who refuses to sell the Taurus 1911, claiming that of the ones he had sold ALL of them had to go back to Taurus for some sort of repair from Minor to Major with very few rounds fired. I look at it as a nice starter 1911, there are likely some parts you will want to change, some that you will like... Just like ANY 1911.
12/28/2008 5:27:42 PM EDT
[#10]
IMO, the revolvers are OK, the autos are what you should stay away from.
12/28/2008 5:49:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
IMO, the revolvers are OK, the autos are what you should stay away from.


My thoughts exactly....

12/28/2008 6:44:35 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a couple of Taurus revolver and I am happy with them. I haven't tried an auto so I can help ya there.
12/28/2008 6:45:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
IMO, the revolvers are OK, the autos are what you should stay away from.


My thoughts exactly....



+2

cuz has 2 revolvers a 22 and 357 both are great. Dad has a 9mm and it's picky with ammo. Not like grouping picky but on reloads if you seat the primer a lil deep the firing pin will hit but not go bang. This after shooting a xd9 and p99 on the same reloads. The taurus was the only one that didn't like it. 3/10 would not go bang. Other than that its ok. Horribly long trigger pull
12/28/2008 10:22:09 PM EDT
[#14]
I have a .357 that I used to carry when I worked for Johnson County.  Timing is off; contacted Taurus for my "lifetime" warrantee.  Took about 8 months to get it back and it looked like they used it for a pry bar.  It still misses primers, plus looks like crap.

I had one of the first 1911's out.  Fit and finish looked like a blind monkey on crack assembled it.  Did it fire?  Hell, I don't know.  It sounded like a Sanford and Son's junk yard pickup truck everytime I flipped it over to look at it.  Sold it at cost to someone who just had to have it.

I agree; its 50/50 love hate.  In my personal experience, their customer service sucks monkey butt.  I tell my friends in LE that a friend won't let a friend buy Taurus.  

YMMV.  If I sound like a anti Taurus commercial, it's only because I've lived it owning two.

Edited to add...

I got to play with a S&W 1911 at an LE conference in Milwaukee this year.  Only put two mags through it due to a line.  I will say that it was an elegent but still substantial weapon.  It does have an external extractor (1911 purists can debate that one) but what I liked was that the reps on hand were encouraging us to abuse it.  Dry fire it, finger f' it, whatever.

Again, YMMV
12/29/2008 6:46:46 AM EDT
[#15]
It will be intersting to see what happens to the revolver line since Taurus just acquired Rossi.

I have an early matte nickel finish PT92 that was my first USPSA pistol and it was a helluva shooter, until the frame cracked.  The warranty replacement was a pimp-nickeled shiny "stainless steel" PT99 that was never as good a shooter.  Eventually, somehow, I bulged the barrel and bought a gunshow used M9 barrel to shoot in the taurus.  Several years later I sold it.

I own 2 used Taurus Model 80 4" revolvers, clones of a skinny barrel S&W Model 10.  They're rough, but cheap and go bang every time.  I gave one to my mom as her bedstand gun, loaded with 129gn +P Hydrashocks, replacing the .22 Ruger Mk1 she previously had.  About once a year I inspect it for her, clean the dust & lint out of it, replace the ammo and make sure everything is ready to go bang.