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1/21/2009 1:52:07 PM EDT
Can someone tell me the legality of buying a 12 guage street sweeper in Indiana as an individual, not a department? I found one  at a pawn shop. They are not sure and niether am I as to what steps to take. Is it a transfer or $200 tax stamp? No telling how long they've had it.
1/21/2009 2:34:52 PM EDT
[#1]
If that pawnshop does not know the legality, then they are probably in illegal possession of it.

Steetsweepers are a $200 transfer tax.

If it is not amnesty registered, I would be destroying it ASAP.
1/21/2009 2:44:36 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Can someone tell me the legality of buying a 12 guage street sweeper in Indiana as an individual, not a department? I found one  at a pawn shop. They are not sure and niether am I as to what steps to take. Is it a transfer or $200 tax stamp? No telling how long they've had it.



RUN!!!!!1



1/21/2009 3:38:09 PM EDT
[#3]
That's what concerns me. I know the guys from a business standpoint. They are next door to us. In conversation about the .410 AR I brought up destructive weapons, like a street sweeper. The guy says" I have one of those in the back. It was pawned and never picked up.I took a look at it. It looks almost new. Folding stock and all. He said he wasn't sure about the paper work. Thats why I asked here. I don't know how many years they've had it. The place is like a damn museum of rifles and shotguns. They were broken into once and the PD checked upstairs and said it was loaded end to end with rifles and shot guns. Hell, they have been there over 100 years.
I thought it would be a great find if I can figure out if it's legally obtainable. If not, I want to let them know so they can turn it over to the ATF. They wouldn't knowingly break the law. I havn't alked with the owner yet, just the ing yang behind the counter. It may be perfectly legal.
1/21/2009 4:16:41 PM EDT
[#4]
My guess would be that if it was pawned, then it was not transferred (if it was ever in the NFA registry to begin with). Obviously, it would have had to have been transferred from the person pawning it to the pawn shop, and if they don't recall doing that, then more than likely it never was. It sure sounds like this one is going to be surrendered.
1/21/2009 4:19:21 PM EDT
[#5]
I'll talk to the owner tomorrow. The guy behind the counter doesn't know squat. It could have been transferred. At the same time, it's a pawn shop. If it's illegal, I'll have it taken care of by ATF without a big incident.
Damn shame if thats the case. It's almost new. They've probably had it for years. It was sitting behind the office door like a door stop
1/21/2009 11:28:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Arent SBS's illegal period in Indiana or is the streetsweeper something else like a full auto shotgun?
1/22/2009 1:48:11 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Arent SBS's illegal period in Indiana or is the streetsweeper something else like a full auto shotgun?


Street Sweepers fall into the destructive device category.

1/22/2009 4:35:52 AM EDT
[#8]
If not registered have the barrel removed and stored at another location or destroyed. The rec. is considered title I without the barrel.
1/22/2009 4:54:12 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
If not registered have the barrel removed and stored at another location or destroyed. The rec. is considered title I without the barrel.


This guy would know what he is talking about.  The receiver would be basically worthless if not registered but it's still better than letting it be destroyed.

It would make a nice center piece for your dining room table.  Your wife would love it, trust me
1/22/2009 8:59:43 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If not registered have the barrel removed and stored at another location or destroyed. The rec. is considered title I without the barrel.


This guy would know what he is talking about.  The receiver would be basically worthless if not registered but it's still better than letting it be destroyed.

It would make a nice center piece for your dining room table.  Your wife would love it, trust me



It would look better with the barrel filled with lead & the firing pin removed.
1/22/2009 3:24:30 PM EDT
[#11]
I want to fire that thing...
1/25/2009 10:24:40 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
If not registered have the barrel removed and stored at another location or destroyed. The rec. is considered title I without the barrel.


+1 Its a shame to let it be destroyed. I would do this if possible.
1/25/2009 2:02:56 PM EDT
[#13]
I had one several years ago.  They are strange to shoot.  Every time you release the trigger (after a round is fired)  the drum rotates to the next shell.  They are slower that you would think.  I sold mine for $400 long before the ban,  I wish I would have kept it.  I owned a Stricker as well.  It wall simular but with a standard fixed stock
2/9/2009 7:21:34 PM EDT
[#14]
Museum of Rifles & Shotguns, where is this place?
2/9/2009 8:10:24 PM EDT
[#15]
i was wondering the same thing lol
2/10/2009 5:19:49 AM EDT
[#16]
Beats a street sweeper hands down.
http://www.mdarms.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1714
2/10/2009 8:54:38 AM EDT
[#17]
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I had one several years ago...  They are slower that you would think...


Yeah, I read sometime back of a Streetsweeper vs. Winchester Model 97 contest.  From a fully loaded start, the Model 97 won hands down for speed of firing.  Afterward the Model 97 was able to keep up a fairly brisk rate of fire using some Cowboy Action Shooting techniques while the drum was being reloaded.

And yes, where is this building full of guns?  Please share.
2/10/2009 4:59:34 PM EDT
[#18]
do you work for a dept ?
file a form 10 atleast you wouldnt be cutting it up
2/10/2009 7:03:57 PM EDT
[#19]
I wanted to reply from work but couldn't, I beleive that streetsweeper you are refering to is a not chambered in .410 but actually in 45-70 with a rifled barrel.  Although you can shoot 3" .410 out of it, it is not a DD.  But a rifle with a revolving cylinder.  I believe these are a different animal then the streetsweeper.
2/10/2009 7:07:55 PM EDT
[#20]
OK, I reread the first parts and realize it is a 12ga you are talking about.  Yes that would be a DD.