Posted: 1/30/2010 10:21:09 AM EDT
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I've been tinking about getting a CCW for awhile now. The primary reason I haven't yet is because I don't want to submit something to the sheriff saying "Look at me, I have a pistol". Yeah, I know its tinfoil hat fears but if another weapon ban went into place, having a CCW shows that you own at least one gun.
Anyways, how long does it take the Anoka county sheriff to process a CCW application and what happens to the application and subsequent record? Thanks. |
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I've been tinking about getting a CCW for awhile now. The primary reason I haven't yet is because I don't want to submit something to the sheriff saying "Look at me, I have a pistol". Yeah, I know its tinfoil hat fears but if another weapon ban went into place, having a CCW shows that you own at least one gun. Anyways, how long does it take the Anoka county sheriff to process a CCW application and what happens to the application and subsequent record? Thanks. One can obtain a drivers' license; but that does not necessarily mean they own a car. ;) They have to either approve or send a written denial within 30 days of application. I don't know what they do with the records... |
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Quoted: Too much tinfoil. If the SHTF, the Sherriff will be way to busy worried about other things apart from rounding up all CCW holders. Even if he does, he can count on losing half his police force if he tries.  Get your CCW and carry your gun. It's for the children. also I would rather the gov't knows I have one gun, odds are they would have classified me as a gun owner, and if they know about one I only have to turn one in....
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some states tie the CCW to your drivers license, so if you have your CCW and your pulled over, they know if you have a CCW or not. i don't think MN currently has that. i've been pulled over once for speeding since i got my CCW and they never said anything about it.
if you've ever bought a gun on paper (4473) the gov't already knows you have a gun. |
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some states tie the CCW to your drivers license, so if you have your CCW and your pulled over, they know if you have a CCW or not. i don't think MN currently has that. i've been pulled over once for speeding since i got my CCW and they never said anything about it. if you've ever bought a gun on paper (4473) the gov't already knows you have a gun. The PTC comes up on the computer at the dispatch center if they choose to look it up. When they run a plate, it shows registered owner, they can run the registered owner and they will see if you have a PTC, firearms safety (hunter safety), hunting licenses, etc. It will also show if you have outstanding warrants and I believe outstanding child support. Technically as MN does not have registration, the government will not have a record of any firearms purchased, unless the FFL is no longer in business, in which case all 4473s they have become property of the ATF (and I assume are entered into a database, but have no idea). That said, this is Minnesota, I would guess police officers assume that everyone has at least one deer rifle in the closet - OP, I wouldn't let fear of confiscation stop you from carrying and protecting yourself, family and friends. |
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Anyways, how long does it take the Anoka county sheriff to process a CCW application and what happens to the application and subsequent record? Thanks. My wife originally got her PTC in Anoka county, so they are the ones who issued her the new one when we moved - took about 6 business days from when she mailed it out to when she got it back. St. Louis Co. took about twice that for mine. |
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Quoted: Quoted: as long as he can, Bruce Andersohn is a dick Not at all His staff that processes the applications though, that is a different story. I turned mine in on a Monday and had it that Friday  I have also heard plenty first hand from deputy friends, enough for me to formulate my opinion. has anyone gotten him to sign a form 1? I just hope that whom ever is elected now that he is retiring is a bit more firearm friendly.
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Quoted: I have also heard plenty first hand from deputy friends, enough for me to formulate my opinion. has anyone gotten him to sign a form 1? I just hope that whom ever is elected now that he is retiring is a bit more firearm friendly. According to various court documents obtained by Gun Week, Evenson applied for his CPL on June 23 through the Anoka County Sheriff's Department. Dennis Reihe of the Anoka County Sheriff's Office contacted Evenson on July 14, court documents state, and advised him that he could pick up his CPL. Evenson declined to make that trip and instead, on July 29, asked that the CPL be mailed to him, as provided in the statute. The name in red bold was the problem and I believe he is no longer handling the carry permits Retired City of Anoka police officer enhancing his retirement with County Money |
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Too much tinfoil. If the SHTF, the Sherriff will be way to busy worried about other things apart from rounding up all CCW holders. Even if he does, he can count on losing half his police force if he tries.
Why? Because all of those deputies are CCW guys who would be rounded up, or were you thinking more along the lines of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrRyZUpoEw&feature=fvw ? |
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wait a sec, Bruce Andersohn is retiring???
I've never had HIM sign off on a form 1/4, but i have had coon rapids and blaine sign off on form 4's in the past. i've written up a nice cover letter that "asks" for their help in me complying with the law and they are not liable for anything i do if they sign the form. 4 for 4 over the years for me. |
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Too much tinfoil. If the SHTF, the Sherriff will be way to busy worried about other things apart from rounding up all CCW holders. Even if he does, he can count on losing half his police force if he tries.
or were you thinking more along the lines of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrRyZUpoEw&feature=fvw ? Precisely. 
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I've been tinking about getting a CCW for awhile now. The primary reason I haven't yet is because I don't want to submit something to the sheriff saying "Look at me, I have a pistol". Yeah, I know its tinfoil hat fears but if another weapon ban went into place, having a CCW shows that you own at least one gun. You might not realize it, but the amount of information your local department already has on you, is utterly amazing. Every contact you've ever had with them, every form you've ever given them, is in their database and free text searchable. As much incompetence we all like to think there is in government, the business of collecting as much data on you as possible, is one area where they seem to be doing really well. I was sitting on the deck last summer, and my cell phone rang with the call back number being the same prefix as the county government center. It was a welfare check call from the 911 dispatcher. The dispatcher said someone did a 911 hangup from my VOIP number, and they couldn't make contact back on it. So after 60 seconds of investigation, I did determine that someone in the house accidentally did a 911 hang up. That 60 seconds gave me enough time to process everything that happened, so I asked the dispatcher how she correlated my cell phone number to my VOIP number so quickly. She said the VOIP number came up on E911, and when they couldn't reach anyone back, they did a database search on my address and pulled my cell number out of my PTC app from about 9 years ago. I was surprised she took my word on the 911 hangup. I thought they always sent a car out on those, just to be sure the evil husband wasn't threatening the frail wife. But this address doesn't have any previous violence related call history, so maybe that was good enough. |
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I've been tinking about getting a CCW for awhile now. The primary reason I haven't yet is because I don't want to submit something to the sheriff saying "Look at me, I have a pistol". Yeah, I know its tinfoil hat fears but if another weapon ban went into place, having a CCW shows that you own at least one gun. You might not realize it, but the amount of information your local department already has on you, is utterly amazing. Every contact you've ever had with them, every form you've ever given them, is in their database and free text searchable. As much incompetence we all like to think there is in government, the business of collecting as much data on you as possible, is one area where they seem to be doing really well. I was sitting on the deck last summer, and my cell phone rang with the call back number being the same prefix as the county government center. It was a welfare check call from the 911 dispatcher. The dispatcher said someone did a 911 hangup from my VOIP number, and they couldn't make contact back on it. So after 60 seconds of investigation, I did determine that someone in the house accidentally did a 911 hang up. That 60 seconds gave me enough time to process everything that happened, so I asked the dispatcher how she correlated my cell phone number to my VOIP number so quickly. She said the VOIP number came up on E911, and when they couldn't reach anyone back, they did a database search on my address and pulled my cell number out of my PTC app from about 9 years ago. I was surprised she took my word on the 911 hangup. I thought they always sent a car out on those, just to be sure the evil husband wasn't threatening the frail wife. But this address doesn't have any previous violence related call history, so maybe that was good enough. Now if only the CIA and FBI could do that with terror suspects...
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Now if only the CIA and FBI could do that with terror suspects...
They can do it for Mad Cows. I'm quite sure they can do it for illegal aliens. They just don't want to, so they pretend they can't. If anyone says they can't, I'll ask them how they can do it for any cow in the state. |