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5/3/2009 12:29:07 PM EDT
I read the FAQ and MN statutes and the issue is still unclear.  Can we get permission to own a short barrell shotgun with $200 federal tax like DD, SBR, etc?

I don't see this plainly spelled out anywhere.
5/3/2009 1:19:57 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I read the FAQ and MN statutes and the issue is still unclear.  Can we get permission to own a short barrell shotgun with $200 federal tax like DD, SBR, etc?

I don't see this plainly spelled out anywhere.


I was told YES by an ATF Examiner. She specifically said she knows of many who have SBS's.... but, talking to several Class III Dealers... they all say NO!

LOL.... nice huh?

5/3/2009 1:50:56 PM EDT
[#2]
well a certain funshop said there was "no way in hell" you could get a DD (like a 40mm launcher) so obviously not everyone is up to speed on things.
5/3/2009 2:11:17 PM EDT
[#3]
It's a NO go in Minnesota.

2008 Minnesota Statutes
609.67 MACHINE GUNS AND SHORT-BARRELED SHOTGUNS.

https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/statutes/?id=609.67


Subd. 3.Uses permitted.The following persons may own or possess a machine gun or short-barreled shotgun provided the provisions of subdivision 4 are complied with:

(1) law enforcement officers for use in the course of their duties;

(2) chief executive officers of correctional facilities and other personnel thereof authorized by them and persons in charge of other institutions for the retention of persons convicted or accused of crime, for use in the course of their duties;

(3) persons possessing machine guns or short-barreled shotguns which, although designed as weapons, have been determined by the superintendent of the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension or the superintendent's delegate by reason of the date of manufacture, value, design or other characteristics to be primarily collector's items, relics, museum pieces or objects of curiosity, ornaments or keepsakes, and are not likely to be used as weapons;

(4) manufacturers of ammunition who possess and use machine guns for the sole purpose of testing ammunition manufactured for sale to federal and state agencies or political subdivisions;

(5) dealers and manufacturers who are federally licensed to buy and sell, or manufacture machine guns or short-barreled shotguns and who either use the machine guns or short-barreled shotguns in peace officer training under courses approved by the Board of Peace Officer Standards and Training, or are engaged in the sale of machine guns or short-barreled shotguns to federal and state agencies or political subdivisions; and

(6) persons employed by the Minnesota National Guard as security guards, for use in accordance with applicable federal military regulations.

Subd. 4.Report required.(a) A person owning or possessing a machine gun or short-barreled shotgun as authorized by subdivision 3, clause (1), (2), (3), or (4) shall, within ten days after acquiring such ownership or possession, file a written report with the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, showing the person's name and address; the person's official title and position, if any; a description of the machine gun or short-barreled shotgun sufficient to enable identification thereof; the purpose for which it is owned or possessed; and such further information as the bureau may reasonably require.

(b) A dealer or manufacturer owning or having a machine gun or short-barreled shotgun as authorized by subdivision 3, clause (5) shall, by the tenth day of each month, file a written report with the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension showing the name and address of the dealer or manufacturer and the serial number of each machine gun or short-barreled shotgun acquired or manufactured during the previous month.

Subd. 5.Exceptions.This section does not apply to members of the armed services of either the United States or the state of Minnesota for use in the course of their duties or to security guards employed by the Minnesota National Guard for use in accordance with applicable federal military regulations.


5/3/2009 2:44:14 PM EDT
[#4]
No SBS in Minnesota.  
If it were a C&R that would be a different story.

You can have an AOW

5/3/2009 3:42:14 PM EDT
[#5]
So all of the short barrel shotguns that are for sale at MWCA shows are AOWs?
5/3/2009 5:24:04 PM EDT
[#6]
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So all of the short barrel shotguns that are for sale at MWCA shows are AOWs?


They can be sold, just not to civilians.

"dealers and manufacturers who are federally licensed to buy and sell, or manufacture machine guns or short-barreled shotguns and who either use the machine guns or short-barreled shotguns in peace officer training under courses approved by the Board of Peace Officer Standards and Training, or are engaged in the sale of machine guns or short-barreled shotguns to federal and state agencies or political subdivisions;"


5/3/2009 6:52:41 PM EDT
[#7]




Quoted:

So all of the short barrel shotguns that are for sale at MWCA shows are AOWs?




All of the ones I have seen are AOW's