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3/23/2006 12:19:21 AM EDT
Hello to all,
I am planning on attending a M16/AR15 Armorer's course at the Sherbourne Co Gov. center.
On the list of equipment needs, it lists:
M16 Tool kit, punches, plastic hammer, small needle nose pliers etc. pretty vague!

My question is what do I really need in a Armorer's kit. I am kinda limited on funds right now as I just bought two new guns (Wife doesn't know ) and the fact that my Dept. is too cheap to pay for this training. Any info would be appreciated.
3/23/2006 4:30:22 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm on my way to work, so can't answer it right now...  I'm sure you'll find that there are MANY local members who are armorers...  They'll have the info at their finger tips and more time to post it than I.
3/23/2006 6:04:16 AM EDT
[#2]
Try the MWCA show at the State Fair this weekend.  I got a nice punch & hammer set at one of the MWCA shows a few years ago for $15.  Also, you can get some great advice straight from the horses mouth, i.e., Dustin at DPMS.

(Sorry Dustin, I couldn't resist a cheap shot!)  
3/23/2006 6:50:59 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I'm on my way to work, so can't answer it right now...  



LET THE TROLLING BEGIN!!!







3/23/2006 7:03:00 AM EDT
[#4]
I'll try to get the ball rolling:

-couple of straight blade screwdrivers, allen wrenches to fit any screws (check inside your grip for what screw that uses
-couple of roll pin punches (somebody chime in with the sizes, I'm at "work")
-couple of flat punches (again, sizes...)
-delrin punch
-brass hammer
-bench block (chunk of 2x4 with some holes in it will do in a pinch)
-needle nose pliers
-KROIL!
-lube of choice (Militec-1)
-barrel wrench (Oly Arms if you can get it, otherwise DPMS isn't bad)
-small tube of anti-sieze (the secret mcnielsen ingredient)
-ball peen hammer for FSB
-action block for barrel installation

I'm sure I missed stuff, and now the boss is lurking.  Please add, guys.  Most of the stuff you miss this weekend can be had from Brownells.
3/23/2006 2:11:24 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Hello to all,
I am planning on attending a M16/AR15 Armorer's course at the Sherbourne Co Gov. center.
On the list of equipment needs, it lists:
M16 Tool kit, punches, plastic hammer, small needle nose pliers etc. pretty vague!

My question is what do I really need in a Armorer's kit. I am kinda limited on funds right now as I just bought two new guns (Wife doesn't know ) and the fact that my Dept. is too cheap to pay for this training. Any info would be appreciated.



Roll Pin Punches 5/64”, 1/8”, 3/32”, 5/32”
Dasco 3/32” Pin Punch  (This punch is long enough for the Bolt Catch Assembly)
Roll Pin Holders
Hammer
Flat Blade Screw Driver
Bench Block (Block of Wood)
Pivot Pin Installation Tool
Oly Arms Universal Barrel Wrench
Hand Guard Removal Tool
Front Sight Tool
Rear Sight Installation Tool
Snap Ring Pliers
Kroil
Militec-1
Anti-Seize
Torque Wrench
Upper Receiver Action Block
Bolt Disassembly Tool
3/23/2006 2:54:41 PM EDT
[#6]
borrow the torque wrench from the auto parts store. you can get by without the hand guard removal tool, the rear sight install tool (if you don't do a complete disassembly on the rear site), the upper receiver action block, and the bolt disassembly tool. All of course are nice to have
3/23/2006 5:01:01 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Hello to all,
I am planning on attending a M16/AR15 Armorer's course at the Sherbourne Co Gov. center.
On the list of equipment needs, it lists:
M16 Tool kit, punches, plastic hammer, small needle nose pliers etc. pretty vague!

My question is what do I really need in a Armorer's kit. I am kinda limited on funds right now as I just bought two new guns (Wife doesn't know ) and the fact that my Dept. is too cheap to pay for this training. Any info would be appreciated.



This is not a course that we teach but I will try to assist.  An Armorer's Kit can be had in many configurations.  For a pretty good one you might try this: AR15/M16 Tool Kit .  Do you know how much repair, disassembly, and reassembly that this course gets into?  Are they going to cover maintenance inspections, as there are many many specialty tools for this.  The more that is covered the more that will be needed.  I am surprised that you are having to supply your own tools, as for our courses we supply all tools from basic up through specialty tools, Colt even supplies basic tools for their courses.  In our courses I actually recommend that tools don't be purchased prior to a course, as the factory kits have lots of stuff in them that is not needed, and these same kits do not have some things in them that are good to have.  By holding off a student then can go purchase exactly what they need and want to have for tools.

Here are some basics:

Flat Pin Punches
Roll Pin Punches
Roll Pin Starter Punches
Hammer
Armorers Bench Block
Magnetic Screw Driver with multiple tips
Spanner Wrench
Armorers Wrench
Receiver Extension Wrench (Torque compatible recommended)
Castle Nut Wrench
Stock Tube Wrenches (Colt & Others)
Sight Installation Tools
Sight Tools (A1 and A2)
Front Pivot Pin Installation Tool
Front Pivot Pin Disassembly Tool
Torque Wrench (Foot Lbs)
Bench Vise
Armorers Barrel Blocks
Lower Receiver Vise Block
Upper Receiver Vise Block
Set of Polishing Stones
Chamber Mirror
Chamber Hone
Upper Receiver Hone
Barrel Extension Tool
Elevation Spring Tool
Front Sight Base Alignment Tool
Gas Tube Installation Tool
Gas Tube Wrench
Carbon Scraper
Ejector Tool
Rivot Block
Hex Wrenches
Free Float Tube Spanner Wrenches
Strap Wrenches
Quad Rail Installation Tool
Quad Rail Guage
Firing Pin Guage
Head Space Guages (8 sizes recommended)  
Hand Guard Tool
Cup Tip Punches
Bolt Catch Punch
Gas Tube Pin Punch

I might have missed a few, but will post more as I can think of them.

CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
Chief Instructor
SLR15 Rifles
TheDefensiveEdge.com





   
3/23/2006 7:29:28 PM EDT
[#8]
10-4 Thanks for the input guys. Sully I plan on checking in with the instructors to get more details, I would have much rather waited for a Defensive Edge course but this one works out with my current schedule.

James
3/24/2006 5:59:41 AM EDT
[#9]

borrow the torque wrench from the auto parts store.


I got one on special at Harbor Freight for $12.99 + tax recently.  I think that their normal price is $19.99.