Posted: 5/6/2016 11:37:00 AM EDT
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Did they start offering this yet, and if so, anyone here know someone who took it?
My wife is finally getting her permit  She's experienced shooting and has had me forcing gun safety upon her for almost 10 years now so doing the classroom stuff online would be ideal as she really doesn't even need it. I can't find anything confirming they've begun offering it, the cost, etc.
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Besides the blended learning course passing on an ADDITIONAL $70 fee directly to the student, and a requirement that the student fire at least 200 rounds to be certified to the highest marksmanship level, which as you can imagine is very expensive, there are several other things that make the new structure a burden and unnecessary. I am currently finishing through the last of my standard packets with students. At that point when I'm out of them and they switch 100% to blended learning which doubles to triples my equipment cost as an instructor, and more time hassle and $ for the student... There has been a course developed by instructor's specifically for CT and independent of the NRA. It is currently in the process of being reviewed and certified by the DESP which will make it a course officially accepted by all CT municipalities and State Police. It is pared down removing content seen in the NRA course which is unnecessary and rarely taught, like seated shooting and target scoring, while adding valuable information for beginners like holster types and firearm law specific to CT. The addition of information practical to what students will actually use their firearm for while removing filler is in my opinion. Most NRA instructions I personally know will be switching over to this as they can pass on significant savings to the student, as well as in my opinion better prepare them for carrying a pistol. |
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Besides the blended learning course passing on an ADDITIONAL $70 fee directly to the student, and a requirement that the student fire at least 200 rounds to be certified to the highest marksmanship level, which as you can imagine is very expensive, there are several other things that make the new structure a burden and unnecessary. I am currently finishing through the last of my standard packets with students. At that point when I'm out of them and they switch 100% to blended learning which doubles to triples my equipment cost as an instructor, and more time hassle and $ for the student... There has been a course developed by instructor's specifically for CT and independent of the NRA. It is currently in the process of being reviewed and certified by the DESP which will make it a course officially accepted by all CT municipalities and State Police. It is pared down removing content seen in the NRA course which is unnecessary and rarely taught, like seated shooting and target scoring, while adding valuable information for beginners like holster types and firearm law specific to CT. The addition of information practical to what students will actually use their firearm for while removing filler is in my opinion. Most NRA instructions I personally know will be switching over to this as they can pass on significant savings to the student, as well as in my opinion better prepare them for carrying a pistol. Quoted:
Besides the blended learning course passing on an ADDITIONAL $70 fee directly to the student, and a requirement that the student fire at least 200 rounds to be certified to the highest marksmanship level, which as you can imagine is very expensive, there are several other things that make the new structure a burden and unnecessary. I am currently finishing through the last of my standard packets with students. At that point when I'm out of them and they switch 100% to blended learning which doubles to triples my equipment cost as an instructor, and more time hassle and $ for the student... There has been a course developed by instructor's specifically for CT and independent of the NRA. It is currently in the process of being reviewed and certified by the DESP which will make it a course officially accepted by all CT municipalities and State Police. It is pared down removing content seen in the NRA course which is unnecessary and rarely taught, like seated shooting and target scoring, while adding valuable information for beginners like holster types and firearm law specific to CT. The addition of information practical to what students will actually use their firearm for while removing filler is in my opinion. Most NRA instructions I personally know will be switching over to this as they can pass on significant savings to the student, as well as in my opinion better prepare them for carrying a pistol. Interesting, any idea when the new course would be available if approved? That seems actually useful whereas (in my case anyway) the NRA course was a complete waste of time (granted, it was taught by a fucking prick). Quoted:
As other would say about OC, I think we can thank our current crop of horrible NRA instructors for this. Most can't even shoot a gun themselves, let alone teach responsibly. /steps off soap box ~g I remember when I took my course, it was such a waste of time. A few common sense items, a ton of useless shit and even more completely false/retarded opinions. Granted again, it was taught by a narcissistic fucking prick, but still |
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Quoted: As other would say about OC, I think we can thank our current crop of horrible NRA instructors for this. Most can't even shoot a gun themselves, let alone teach responsibly. /steps off soap box ~g While there definitely should be a system of recertification or "check ups" for NRA certified instructors, this not the route to take to ensure compliance and quality. That's said yes there are a lot of shit instructors, I've sat in on many other instructors teaching. From listening to my gf's instructor spend most of the hours talking about stopping power of .45, how revolvers are best, and scaring home invaders with racking slides and shotguns, to the instructor I was teaching next to at Wolf's who appeared to be having his students shoot no more than 15 rounds, shotgun patterned all over a body size silhouette. I like to work with my students not only until they are comfortable and safe, but are getting controlled groups that can be covered with at least a coffee mug. And I always offer to take more time with them for free at a later date if they want to keep working on proficiency. |
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Quoted: Interesting, any idea when the new course would be available if approved? That seems actually useful whereas (in my case anyway) the NRA course was a complete waste of time (granted, it was taught by a fucking prick). I remember when I took my course, it was such a waste of time. A few common sense items, a ton of useless shit and even more completely false/retarded opinions. Granted again, it was taught by a narcissistic fucking prick, but still Quoted: Quoted: Besides the blended learning course passing on an ADDITIONAL $70 fee directly to the student, and a requirement that the student fire at least 200 rounds to be certified to the highest marksmanship level, which as you can imagine is very expensive, there are several other things that make the new structure a burden and unnecessary. I am currently finishing through the last of my standard packets with students. At that point when I'm out of them and they switch 100% to blended learning which doubles to triples my equipment cost as an instructor, and more time hassle and $ for the student... There has been a course developed by instructor's specifically for CT and independent of the NRA. It is currently in the process of being reviewed and certified by the DESP which will make it a course officially accepted by all CT municipalities and State Police. It is pared down removing content seen in the NRA course which is unnecessary and rarely taught, like seated shooting and target scoring, while adding valuable information for beginners like holster types and firearm law specific to CT. The addition of information practical to what students will actually use their firearm for while removing filler is in my opinion. Most NRA instructions I personally know will be switching over to this as they can pass on significant savings to the student, as well as in my opinion better prepare them for carrying a pistol. Interesting, any idea when the new course would be available if approved? That seems actually useful whereas (in my case anyway) the NRA course was a complete waste of time (granted, it was taught by a fucking prick). Quoted: As other would say about OC, I think we can thank our current crop of horrible NRA instructors for this. Most can't even shoot a gun themselves, let alone teach responsibly. /steps off soap box ~g I remember when I took my course, it was such a waste of time. A few common sense items, a ton of useless shit and even more completely false/retarded opinions. Granted again, it was taught by a narcissistic fucking prick, but still I hope I wasn't your instructor   .I'll text the senior instructor who I'm developing it with to see if he got the draft printed material back yet. If I had to guess it will be finished by summer, which is about when the more expensive blended learning will be mandatory and a definite shakeup of of training in the state will occur. |
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I hope I wasn't your instructor .
I'll text the senior instructor who I'm developing it with to see if he got the draft printed material back yet. If I had to guess it will be finished by summer, which is about when the more expensive blended learning will be mandatory and a definite shakeup of of training in the state will occur. Quoted:
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Besides the blended learning course passing on an ADDITIONAL $70 fee directly to the student, and a requirement that the student fire at least 200 rounds to be certified to the highest marksmanship level, which as you can imagine is very expensive, there are several other things that make the new structure a burden and unnecessary. I am currently finishing through the last of my standard packets with students. At that point when I'm out of them and they switch 100% to blended learning which doubles to triples my equipment cost as an instructor, and more time hassle and $ for the student... There has been a course developed by instructor's specifically for CT and independent of the NRA. It is currently in the process of being reviewed and certified by the DESP which will make it a course officially accepted by all CT municipalities and State Police. It is pared down removing content seen in the NRA course which is unnecessary and rarely taught, like seated shooting and target scoring, while adding valuable information for beginners like holster types and firearm law specific to CT. The addition of information practical to what students will actually use their firearm for while removing filler is in my opinion. Most NRA instructions I personally know will be switching over to this as they can pass on significant savings to the student, as well as in my opinion better prepare them for carrying a pistol. Interesting, any idea when the new course would be available if approved? That seems actually useful whereas (in my case anyway) the NRA course was a complete waste of time (granted, it was taught by a fucking prick). Quoted:
As other would say about OC, I think we can thank our current crop of horrible NRA instructors for this. Most can't even shoot a gun themselves, let alone teach responsibly. /steps off soap box ~g I remember when I took my course, it was such a waste of time. A few common sense items, a ton of useless shit and even more completely false/retarded opinions. Granted again, it was taught by a narcissistic fucking prick, but still I hope I wasn't your instructor .
I'll text the senior instructor who I'm developing it with to see if he got the draft printed material back yet. If I had to guess it will be finished by summer, which is about when the more expensive blended learning will be mandatory and a definite shakeup of of training in the state will occur. lol, no, it was Rick at Valley Firearms. Such a useless, self absorbed, price gouging scumbag. Where are you located? I was put in touch with an instructor by another arfcommer, but would rather give the business directly to a fellow member |
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Quoted: lol, no, it was Rick at Valley Firearms. Such a useless, self absorbed, price gouging scumbag. Where are you located? I was put in touch with an instructor by another arfcommer, but would rather give the business directly to a fellow member Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Besides the blended learning course passing on an ADDITIONAL $70 fee directly to the student, and a requirement that the student fire at least 200 rounds to be certified to the highest marksmanship level, which as you can imagine is very expensive, there are several other things that make the new structure a burden and unnecessary. I am currently finishing through the last of my standard packets with students. At that point when I'm out of them and they switch 100% to blended learning which doubles to triples my equipment cost as an instructor, and more time hassle and $ for the student... There has been a course developed by instructor's specifically for CT and independent of the NRA. It is currently in the process of being reviewed and certified by the DESP which will make it a course officially accepted by all CT municipalities and State Police. It is pared down removing content seen in the NRA course which is unnecessary and rarely taught, like seated shooting and target scoring, while adding valuable information for beginners like holster types and firearm law specific to CT. The addition of information practical to what students will actually use their firearm for while removing filler is in my opinion. Most NRA instructions I personally know will be switching over to this as they can pass on significant savings to the student, as well as in my opinion better prepare them for carrying a pistol. Interesting, any idea when the new course would be available if approved? That seems actually useful whereas (in my case anyway) the NRA course was a complete waste of time (granted, it was taught by a fucking prick). Quoted: As other would say about OC, I think we can thank our current crop of horrible NRA instructors for this. Most can't even shoot a gun themselves, let alone teach responsibly. /steps off soap box ~g I remember when I took my course, it was such a waste of time. A few common sense items, a ton of useless shit and even more completely false/retarded opinions. Granted again, it was taught by a narcissistic fucking prick, but still I hope I wasn't your instructor .I'll text the senior instructor who I'm developing it with to see if he got the draft printed material back yet. If I had to guess it will be finished by summer, which is about when the more expensive blended learning will be mandatory and a definite shakeup of of training in the state will occur. lol, no, it was Rick at Valley Firearms. Such a useless, self absorbed, price gouging scumbag. Where are you located? I was put in touch with an instructor by another arfcommer, but would rather give the business directly to a fellow member Fairfield County but I don't mind travelling within reason and for groups. I've taught a few members here and their family members, LeadRx just being one. I'm young and there are members here with collections and firearm knowledge that far surpass my own, but first and foremost I'm a teacher and enjoy working with people to introduce them to the world of firearms in a safe calm manner  ...and to get the burdensome and unnecessary requirement to have taken a class out of the way. |
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No matter what you are trying to learn in life there are good teachers and bad teachers.
In regards to firearms a good instructor will not spew "facts" that are either his/her opinion or are urban legends. Safety is very important and should be the main focus of a Basic course. Firearms handling and basic shooting technique is the secondary function of the basic class. Beyond these basics then one can further their "education" with more range time, advanced techniques, home defense scenarios, etc. |
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Squabbling over what nra course should suffice is insanity.
I reject the premise that one has to spend money on a course for a constitutionally protected right. CT is in the minority when it comes to these worthless fucking courses. Most states as you may or may not be aware don't require a worthless training certificate. Hell most states you walk into a store and walk out with whatever firearm you choose. Then apply for a permit, with limited intrusion, if they want to carry it concealed. I get the sense that most in CT have given in and have just accepted the CT norm for firearms |
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Squabbling over what nra course should suffice is insanity. I reject the premise that one has to spend money on a course for a constitutionally protected right. CT is in the minority when it comes to these worthless fucking courses. Most states as you may or may not be aware don't require a worthless training certificate. Hell most states you walk into a store and walk out with whatever firearm you choose. Then apply for a permit, with limited intrusion, if they want to carry it concealed. I get the sense that most in CT have given in and have just accepted the CT norm for firearms AGREED! I was pissed off 25 years ago when I had to give my fingerprints to the state to get my CT pistol permission slip. I am still pissed about it. There is NO reason they should have my fingerprints, because I have never been arrested for anything. Classes should be a choice, not a requirement. |