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6/9/2015 11:03:28 PM EDT
Can we put extensions on registered mags ? Like take a Glock 19 mag and put a +2 or +4 extension on it to make a 17 or 19 round mag
6/9/2015 11:08:10 PM EDT
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Did you register it as a 15, 17 or a 19 round mag?
6/9/2015 11:29:20 PM EDT
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This.




Registered as is.



6/10/2015 6:58:22 AM EDT
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derp somehow got double posted.
6/10/2015 7:09:56 AM EDT
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Legally, who knows. The law, much like with assault weapons, does not address making modifications after declaring the magazine with the DESPP-0788-C Magazine Declaration form. The form does have a capacity field. The only known legal modification one can make is to reduce a LCM capacity to 10 rounds or less or to destroy the magazine (render it inoperable). Otherwise its all subject to interpretation and speculation. So far I think it is unknown if one can contact the state and have them update the form to reflect either changes in magazine capacity either as LCM or a non LCM magazine or to reflect the destruction or sales of a magazine out of state.
6/10/2015 8:03:57 AM EDT
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Thanks for the responses. Wanted to add to my night stand handgun but did not want new shiny bracelets to go with the addition
6/10/2015 8:52:11 AM EDT
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The good news (if you can call it that when dealing with an unconstitutional law) is that one can use magazine extension on any non LCM magazine so long as the don't alter the round count above 10. The other good news (if you can call it that when dealing with an unconstitutional law) is that unlike with the AW language there is no "parts" language with respect to LCM's. Which means one can have a pile of +1 or +2 extensions in their possession along side a pile of 10 round magazines and not violate the law. Which means one could use +1 and +2 (or higher if they exist) floor extensions on Glock 43 6 round magazines to increase the round count and not exceed the stupid unconstitutional 10 round limit.
6/10/2015 9:28:11 AM EDT
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The good news (if you can call it that when dealing with an unconstitutional law) is that one can use magazine extension on any non LCM magazine so long as the don't alter the round count above 10. The other good news (if you can call it that when dealing with an unconstitutional law) is that unlike with the AW language there is no "parts" language with respect to LCM's. Which means one can have a pile of +1 or +2 extensions in their possession along side a pile of 10 round magazines and not violate the law. Which means one could use +1 and +2 (or higher if they exist) floor extensions on Glock 43 6 round magazines to increase the round count and not exceed the stupid unconstitutional 10 round limit.
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IIRC wasn't there something in the law about magazine not protruding 1" past the grip of the pistol as well?
6/10/2015 9:32:49 AM EDT
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The technical answer is "probably yes, you can".  There is nothing in the law that says if you register, say, a 15 round mag that you can't put an extender on it to make it a 17 round mag.   The state's beef against high capacity magazines is the same as assault weapons- it's either a high capacity magazine or it isn't.  It's still the same 15 round magazine the state knows you already had, it's just has accessories on it now.

The REAL answer is "it depends on the cop who catches you with it"   There is so much derp in this law that if you show the same law to five cops you're going to see five different interpretations. Some cops won't care one way or the other, some will check to see if you have at least anything registered and let ti slide when he sees that you do, while others are so hard core anti-2A that he'll look for excuses to arrest you for having your shoelaces untied.  This is probably a legal case waiting to happen.
6/10/2015 10:45:44 AM EDT
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There is a common misconception that the 1 inch rule applies to all magazines. The statue indicates that the 1 inch below the bottom of the pistol grip applies ONLY to large capacity magazines and is through to apply only while carrying in public.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/current/pub/chap_943.htm#sec_53-202x

Sec. 53-202x. Declaration of possession of large capacity magazine. Regulations.
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(f) Any person who declared possession of a large capacity magazine under this section may possess the large capacity magazine only under the following conditions:
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(7) Pursuant to a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver, provided such large capacity magazine (A) is within a pistol or revolver that was lawfully possessed by the person prior to April 5, 2013, (B) does not extend more than one inch below the bottom of the pistol grip, and (C) contains not more than ten bullets.
6/10/2015 11:05:57 AM EDT
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The technical answer is "probably yes, you can".  There is nothing in the law that says if you register, say, a 15 round mag that you can't put an extender on it to make it a 17 round mag.   The state's beef against high capacity magazines is the same as assault weapons- it's either a high capacity magazine or it isn't.  It's still the same 15 round magazine the state knows you already had, it's just has accessories on it now.

The REAL answer is "it depends on the cop who catches you with it" There is so much derp in this law that if you show the same law to five cops you're going to see five different interpretations. Some cops won't care one way or the other, some will check to see if you have at least anything registered and let ti slide when he sees that you do, while others are so hard core anti-2A that he'll look for excuses to arrest you for having your shoelaces untied. This is probably a legal case waiting to happen.
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Yeah. This is one of those times when no one knows what will happen until confronted by police. Beyond counting the rounds loaded in the magazine to ensure you were carrying as the law proscribes (10 rounds or less). I assume they'd do nothing other than check to see if you have declared magazines and if the make of the magazine found on you was listed to one's name. For that matter, do we even know what information the police can access (if any) from the magazine declaration form when stop/detain you on the street?

It all boils down to how the state views the "capacity" entry on the declaration form. If they wanted to be real assholes and dig in their heals and say that a magazine that has a floor extender that changes the capacity means you have a different magazine because its capacity is different than the one declared (and swore to on the form) they could. Chances are however they won't press the issue since there is nothing to be gain from it. It would open up the door to questions and challenges to the extremely poor wording of the stupid and unconstitutional law if they did. Because the magazine is not serialized (yet ) and if there is no date code then there is no way to definitively prove it is or is not the same magazine as the one declared unless it is the sole magazine one declared and was found in one's possession.

The biggest issue, for those who choose to comply with the stupid law, when using an extender on a LCM is making sure it doesn't extend beyond 1 inch from the grip of the handgun if they plan on carrying that gun in public.
6/10/2015 9:58:25 PM EDT
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Just add another gun to your nightstand.
6/11/2015 11:38:05 AM EDT
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Just add another gun to your nightstand.


Have the Glock 20 with TLR-1 light as my nightstand gun. Going to add trijicon RMR's to my 2 Glocks soon and thought the extra capacity would be a good package Maybe I will switch and use the 50 rd drum in the Glock 19 for the nightstand gun !!!
6/11/2015 1:49:58 PM EDT
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I don't know about your particular situation, but all my Glock mags had the factory +2 extensions on them when the ban went into place.  I registered them with the extra capacity (4 19 round and 1 33 round magazines).
6/11/2015 2:47:36 PM EDT
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I don't know about your particular situation, but all my Glock mags had the factory +2 extensions on them when the ban went into place.  I registered them with the extra capacity (4 19 round and 1 33 round magazines).
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Can we put extensions on registered mags ? Like take a Glock 19 mag and put a +2 or +4 extension on it to make a 17 or 19 round mag


I don't know about your particular situation, but all my Glock mags had the factory +2 extensions on them when the ban went into place.  I registered them with the extra capacity (4 19 round and 1 33 round magazines).


Yeah when the ban came into effect I had the happy sticks and drum for the G19 But it was hard to find the extensions for the G20 mags
6/11/2015 4:09:31 PM EDT
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The REAL answer is "it depends on the cop who catches you with it"   There is so much derp in this law that if you show the same law to five cops you're going to see five different interpretations. Some cops won't care one way or the other, some will check to see if you have at least anything registered and let ti slide when he sees that you do, while others are so hard core anti-2A that he'll look for excuses to arrest you for having your shoelaces untied.  This is probably a legal case waiting to happen.
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You are absolutely correct. The average cop is just as confused as anybody else is on these matters. I'd even venture to say that a fair number of guys don't know the law changed in any meaningful way.  If person gets into trouble with the police on a "registration" issue there was something else afoot, or they worked very hard at getting the cops attention.