Posted: 3/28/2014 10:08:43 AM EDT
| Hey guys I'm going to be sending in my SBR paper work by June and will be starting the paperwork shortly. I found the section on building an SBR somewhere on here and was reading the FQA section. It said you have to go to your local police chief and have him sign off on the form and most get finger printed at this time. My question is what do you say to the police chief when he asks why you need and SBR? Have any of you had any problems filing for the SBR stamp? |
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Hey guys I'm going to be sending in my SBR paper work by June and will be starting the paperwork shortly. I found the section on building an SBR somewhere on here and was reading the FQA section. It said you have to go to your local police chief and have him sign off on the form and most get finger printed at this time. My question is what do you say to the police chief when he asks why you need and SBR? Have any of you had any problems filing for the SBR stamp? Second question first. There is a thread that details the sign off habits of many CT CLEOs. That should help. What town are you in? First question: I write a cover letter introducing myself and leave it with my docs at the Records office in my town. I offer to meet or speak on the phone if they like and include any personal details that help my cause (i.e. I'm a helluva guy!  ). As long as you don't write anything stupid, the reason shouldn't matter much. They either deny everybody or sign off on these as a standard practice, IME.
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^ICEMAN is spot on. But he is one helluva guy!
I drop my form off in an envelope to the records dept at my police station/town hall. In 2 days I get a call to come pick it up  No questions asked, no meeting/no pleading .
But in reality they are not "allowing" you to have it. You are not asking permission to have it, just whether or not you CAN legally have it. This gets lost in translation, and most CLEO's think they are the deciding factor. There are some, including my town, that are obviously good guys that understand this. First thing is first though, not that this is a requirement but probably helps.....have a Carry permit already. I would assume that a CLEO would like to know that you know firearms and already have experience. Again this is NOT a requirement, and just a guess of mine that makes sense to me. The best part is when you are being fingerprinted by the some of the officers and they ask you what its for(thinking that you think that you are OBLIGATED to tell them lol) and you tell them a suppressor or Short Barreled Rifle......they get their panties in a knot pretty quick
If you HAVE to talk to anyone-you just say that you want it for all legal uses. Home protection, target practice, your private collection. You will also need this answer for one of the questions on the Form 1-I cant remember which one though. Other than that go over your form a bunch of times before sending it in. You dont want any errors, they make the process take longer-and its long enough right now-about 11 months currently. |
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Second question first. There is a thread that details the sign off habits of many CT CLEOs. That should help. What town are you in? First question: I write a cover letter introducing myself and leave it with my docs at the Records office in my town. I offer to meet or speak on the phone if they like and include any personal details that help my cause (i.e. I'm a helluva guy! ). As long as you don't write anything stupid, the reason shouldn't matter much. They either deny everybody or sign off on these as a standard practice, IME.Quoted:
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Hey guys I'm going to be sending in my SBR paper work by June and will be starting the paperwork shortly. I found the section on building an SBR somewhere on here and was reading the FQA section. It said you have to go to your local police chief and have him sign off on the form and most get finger printed at this time. My question is what do you say to the police chief when he asks why you need and SBR? Have any of you had any problems filing for the SBR stamp? Second question first. There is a thread that details the sign off habits of many CT CLEOs. That should help. What town are you in? First question: I write a cover letter introducing myself and leave it with my docs at the Records office in my town. I offer to meet or speak on the phone if they like and include any personal details that help my cause (i.e. I'm a helluva guy! ). As long as you don't write anything stupid, the reason shouldn't matter much. They either deny everybody or sign off on these as a standard practice, IME.I'm in Manchester if anyone has expierince getting an sbr stamp here is like to hear about it. |
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CT CLEO Sign off summary thread. Don't see Manchester in here though.
http://3gn.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=26&t=537370 |
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I requested the proper fingerprint cards online and brought them to DESPP to have the prints done in the digital machine. The techs there are awesome about making sure they are clear and acceptable. Local officer ink prints can vary depending on what kind of day they are having and most dont have the proper blue lined FD cards. I included a photo copy page with my licence, carry permit , and AW Cert in a bright yellow folder with my Form 1's and contact info. It took a little over 2 weeks from dropping them off to getting a call that they were signed. Meriden.
Also within my folder when picking it up a background check was done and put in with my paperwork. |
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CT CLEO Sign off summary thread. Don't see Manchester in here though. http://3gn.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=26&t=537370 If someone could revive that thread you can add Meriden to the list as GTG. |
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^ICEMAN is spot on. But he is one helluva guy! I drop my form off in an envelope to the records dept at my police station/town hall. In 2 days I get a call to come pick it up No questions asked, no meeting/no pleading.
But in reality they are not "allowing" you to have it. You are not asking permission to have it, just whether or not you CAN legally have it. This gets lost in translation, and most CLEO's think they are the deciding factor. There are some, including my town, that are obviously good guys that understand this. First thing is first though, not that this is a requirement but probably helps.....have a Carry permit already. I would assume that a CLEO would like to know that you know firearms and already have experience. Again this is NOT a requirement, and just a guess of mine that makes sense to me. The best part is when you are being fingerprinted by the some of the officers and they ask you what its for(thinking that you think that you are OBLIGATED to tell them lol) and you tell them a suppressor or Short Barreled Rifle......they get their panties in a knot pretty quick
If you HAVE to talk to anyone-you just say that you want it for all legal uses. Home protection, target practice, your private collection. You will also need this answer for one of the questions on the Form 1-I cant remember which one though. Other than that go over your form a bunch of times before sending it in. You dont want any errors, they make the process take longer-and its long enough right now-about 11 months currently. Are you saying if they won't sign it your can still apply? I wonder what your chances of getting approved are in these circumstances 
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Are you saying if they won't sign it your can still apply? I wonder what your chances of getting approved are in these circumstances Quoted:
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^ICEMAN is spot on. But he is one helluva guy! I drop my form off in an envelope to the records dept at my police station/town hall. In 2 days I get a call to come pick it up No questions asked, no meeting/no pleading.
But in reality they are not "allowing" you to have it. You are not asking permission to have it, just whether or not you CAN legally have it. This gets lost in translation, and most CLEO's think they are the deciding factor. There are some, including my town, that are obviously good guys that understand this. First thing is first though, not that this is a requirement but probably helps.....have a Carry permit already. I would assume that a CLEO would like to know that you know firearms and already have experience. Again this is NOT a requirement, and just a guess of mine that makes sense to me. The best part is when you are being fingerprinted by the some of the officers and they ask you what its for(thinking that you think that you are OBLIGATED to tell them lol) and you tell them a suppressor or Short Barreled Rifle......they get their panties in a knot pretty quick
If you HAVE to talk to anyone-you just say that you want it for all legal uses. Home protection, target practice, your private collection. You will also need this answer for one of the questions on the Form 1-I cant remember which one though. Other than that go over your form a bunch of times before sending it in. You dont want any errors, they make the process take longer-and its long enough right now-about 11 months currently. Are you saying if they won't sign it your can still apply? I wonder what your chances of getting approved are in these circumstances No, the ATF requires that it gets signed, but the CLEO is supposed to sign regardless of his feelings, as long as you are legally allowed to have it. In reality it doesnt work like this though. Its based on their feelings solely. There are guys higher up that can sign it, you'll have to go over the CLEO's head....I think a judge, or someone at the state police barracks? I've heard about this stuff, but never payed much attention. There is no point in sending the form in without a signature. BUTTT because you plan to sbr a preban, you can form a trust and do it that way. That skips the signature and fingerprint cards, because its not registered to you, its registered to a trust. But thats as far as my knowledge of trusts go... |
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No, the ATF requires that it gets signed, but the CLEO is supposed to sign regardless of his feelings, as long as you are legally allowed to have it. In reality it doesnt work like this though. Its based on their feelings solely. There are guys higher up that can sign it, you'll have to go over the CLEO's head....I think a judge, or someone at the state police barracks? I've heard about this stuff, but never payed much attention. There is no point in sending the form in without a signature. BUTTT because you plan to sbr a preban, you can form a trust and do it that way. That skips the signature and fingerprint cards, because its not registered to you, its registered to a trust. But thats as far as my knowledge of trusts go... Quoted:
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^ICEMAN is spot on. But he is one helluva guy! I drop my form off in an envelope to the records dept at my police station/town hall. In 2 days I get a call to come pick it up No questions asked, no meeting/no pleading.
But in reality they are not "allowing" you to have it. You are not asking permission to have it, just whether or not you CAN legally have it. This gets lost in translation, and most CLEO's think they are the deciding factor. There are some, including my town, that are obviously good guys that understand this. First thing is first though, not that this is a requirement but probably helps.....have a Carry permit already. I would assume that a CLEO would like to know that you know firearms and already have experience. Again this is NOT a requirement, and just a guess of mine that makes sense to me. The best part is when you are being fingerprinted by the some of the officers and they ask you what its for(thinking that you think that you are OBLIGATED to tell them lol) and you tell them a suppressor or Short Barreled Rifle......they get their panties in a knot pretty quick
If you HAVE to talk to anyone-you just say that you want it for all legal uses. Home protection, target practice, your private collection. You will also need this answer for one of the questions on the Form 1-I cant remember which one though. Other than that go over your form a bunch of times before sending it in. You dont want any errors, they make the process take longer-and its long enough right now-about 11 months currently. Are you saying if they won't sign it your can still apply? I wonder what your chances of getting approved are in these circumstances No, the ATF requires that it gets signed, but the CLEO is supposed to sign regardless of his feelings, as long as you are legally allowed to have it. In reality it doesnt work like this though. Its based on their feelings solely. There are guys higher up that can sign it, you'll have to go over the CLEO's head....I think a judge, or someone at the state police barracks? I've heard about this stuff, but never payed much attention. There is no point in sending the form in without a signature. BUTTT because you plan to sbr a preban, you can form a trust and do it that way. That skips the signature and fingerprint cards, because its not registered to you, its registered to a trust. But thats as far as my knowledge of trusts go... I have heard of the trust option. But I'm not to familiar with it... |
| We have a similar thread on CTGT and DanTSX reported back in 2012 that Manchester signed in 3 hours. I would call and make sure they'll sign. If they will, don't bother with the trust. Either way you go, I can give you the rundown on the process. Just remind me tomorrow morning. |
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We have a similar thread on CTGT and DanTSX reported back in 2012 that Manchester signed in 3 hours. I would call and make sure they'll sign. If they will, don't bother with the trust. Either way you go, I can give you the rundown on the process. Just remind me tomorrow morning. Legendary dantsx is a Manchester local?! Haha OK cool man thanks
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If the atf gets their way you will need a Cleo signoff for everyone listed on your trust.
Individuals can go to DSP and get a signature. Dont make this harder than it is. And I heard new tax proposals are in the CT House right now for NFA, along with ammo, mags, and AWs |
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I just found tsx's old thread on ctguntalk.....Manchester will sign according to that. I don't mind waiting because I'm buying stripper lower and I will have to slowly purchase the parts to put it together. You'll do fine in the NFA world 
Go up to the armory tab here and go down to the general class 3 section and the sbr section......stay FAR away from the suppressor section, and pretend the m16 and general class 3 firearms sections are black holes-DONT go in them
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You'll do fine in the NFA world
Go up to the armory tab here and go down to the general class 3 section and the sbr section......stay FAR away from the suppressor section, and pretend the m16 and general class 3 firearms sections are black holes-DONT go in them Quoted:
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I just found tsx's old thread on ctguntalk.....Manchester will sign according to that. I don't mind waiting because I'm buying stripper lower and I will have to slowly purchase the parts to put it together. You'll do fine in the NFA world
Go up to the armory tab here and go down to the general class 3 section and the sbr section......stay FAR away from the suppressor section, and pretend the m16 and general class 3 firearms sections are black holes-DONT go in them  already having dreams of a suppressor on my SBR (long after my SBR stamp) maybe I'll just hold of a few month versus stay in "FARAWAY" Haha.
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