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12/10/2013 6:51:35 PM EDT
And was told that I don't have to declare my pre1994 rifles or post 94 assault rifles that have certificates. I just have to declare the ones that were declared illegal 4/4.

Is that  everyone here understanding?
12/10/2013 7:41:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Yes.
If the rifle was made:
Pre 13Sep1994- No certificate needed.
Post 13 Sep1994- A certificate is required. If you have one already, you don't need to get another. If you don't have one, you need to apply before 1 January.
12/10/2013 11:31:05 PM EDT
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oops. I registered everything.

It don't matter. you can still sell them if you did. I sold 2 registered "preban" AR15's without issues a month or two back. I put them up on consignment and they both were sold in 5 days!
12/11/2013 4:31:10 AM EDT
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And was told that I don't have to declare my pre1994 rifles or post 94 assault rifles that have certificates. I just have to declare the ones that were declared illegal 4/4.

Is that  everyone here understanding?
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Any firearm that has an assault weapon certificate of possession associated with prior to 4/4/13 does NOT need to be registered as it is already registered.

Any firearm manufactured post 9/13/94 that was reclassified as an "assault weapon" on 4/4/13 DOES have to be registered. One is supposed to apply by 1/1/14.

Where there is confusion is with DESPP/SLFU's opinion that appears to say that all "prebans" don't need to be registered and can be transferred. Prior to 4/4/13 their opinion was only those "prebans" that were not banned by name didn't need to be registered and could be transferred. One can read the revised 53-202m (in PA 13-220) and the old law's section 53-202a and draw their own opinions.

One cannot go wrong if they adhere to the pre 4/4/13 view on prebans, which was that any firearm not banned by name (under the law as it was prior to 4/4/13) and which was manufactured prior to 9/13/94 doesn't have to be registered and can be transferred.
12/12/2013 2:12:23 PM EDT
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how bout a preban Olympic ar?? its on the ban list, but are they talking about the post 94 and up models? or all Olympic ar-15s?
12/12/2013 2:14:50 PM EDT
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how bout a preban Olympic ar?? its on the ban list, but are they talking about the post 94 and up models? or all Olympic ar-15s?
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Preban (mfg pre 9/13/94) ______ don't have to be registered even if it is listed by name in the new 4/4/13 list.

You are good to go.
12/12/2013 2:59:39 PM EDT
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how bout a preban Olympic ar?? its on the ban list, but are they talking about the post 94 and up models? or all Olympic ar-15s?


Preban (mfg pre 9/13/94) ______ don't have to be registered even if it is listed by name in the new 4/4/13 list.

You are good to go.

Didn't CT's ban come in 1993?
12/12/2013 5:33:23 PM EDT
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Matt- I believe the banned by name list was in 1993 then the state mirrored the federal ban in 1994 to ban guns with certain features.  CT politicians can never ban "assault weapons" too many times.
12/12/2013 6:02:02 PM EDT
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how bout a preban Olympic ar?? its on the ban list, but are they talking about the post 94 and up models? or all Olympic ar-15s?


Preban (mfg pre 9/13/94) ______ don't have to be registered even if it is listed by name in the new 4/4/13 list.

You are good to go.

Didn't CT's ban come in 1993?

CT's ban was enacted in 1993 (June 1993), the federal ban in 1994 (September 13, 1994). However the section allowing for "prebans" in CT wasn't added until 2001 (6/28/2001).
12/13/2013 8:03:25 AM EDT
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if you have a post ban with a fixed magazine you are fine as well. That was after talking with the state police.
12/13/2013 10:49:00 AM EDT
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Note it has to be a 10 round or less fixed magazine on a centerfire semiautomatic rifle post 9/13/94 manufacture. If the fixed magazine has more than 10 rounds its considered an assault weapon per the law now. From PA 13-220:

Sec. 3. Subparagraphs (E) and (F) of subdivision (1) of section 53-202a of the general statutes, as amended by section 25 of public act 13-3, are repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective from passage):

(E) Any semiautomatic firearm regardless of whether such firearm is listed in subparagraphs (A) to (D), inclusive, of this subdivision, and regardless of the date such firearm was produced, that meets the following criteria:

(i) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following:

(I) A folding or telescoping stock;

(II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

(III) A forward pistol grip;

(IV) A flash suppressor; or

(V) A grenade launcher or flare launcher; or

(ii) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the ability to accept more than ten rounds; or

(iii) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than thirty inches; or

(iv) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following:

(I) An ability to accept a detachable ammunition magazine that attaches at some location outside of the pistol grip;

(II) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward pistol grip or silencer;

(III) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to fire the firearm without being burned, except a slide that encloses the barrel; or

(IV) A second hand grip; or

(v) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the ability to accept more than ten rounds; or

(vi) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:

(I) A folding or telescoping stock; and

(II) Any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other stock, the use of which would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing; or

(vii) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or

(viii) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder; or

(ix) Any semiautomatic firearm that meets the criteria set forth in subdivision (3) or (4) of subsection (a) of section 53-202a of the general statutes, revision of 1958, revised to January 1, 2013; or

(F) A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (E), inclusive, of this subdivision, or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in any provision of subparagraphs (B) to (E), inclusive, of this subdivision, may be assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person;
12/16/2013 3:51:16 PM EDT
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What about those of us with prebans that weren't registered back in 1994? Does my PWA preban AR have to be registered by 12/31?
12/20/2013 12:45:53 PM EDT
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What if you were to buy a Preban now? Do they come with a Certificate??? Or would you have to register it? Or is it already registered from the previous assault ban?
12/20/2013 12:54:31 PM EDT
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That would be fine as long as it isnt a banned by name preban.  No.  No.  No.
Just buy it and its yours.  If possible you could get a verification from the manufacturer stating it was made pre-94.