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11/8/2012 4:15:13 AM EDT
Which way will Angus King lean?  Will he caucus with Democrats or Republicans in the US Senate?
11/8/2012 4:45:07 AM EDT
[#1]
He supports the "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009"  (later passed in the Senate as the PPACA, you may know it as 0-care) He opposes drilling in Alaska, sorta supports Fracking with plenty of Government oversight, and is a former Democrat.

He will announce it next week, but I'm pretty sure I know what his decision will be.
11/8/2012 5:28:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Ya know, I spend a lot of time in Maine during the year and interact with a lot of Maine's citizens.  I always come away with the feeling that they are independent, hard-working people with their noses to the grindstone.  Yet, the elections say that they are all standing there with their hands out, waiting for gubmint assistance.  I know that there are a lot of low-income areas in Maine but for the life of me I just don't see it as the largest part of their citizenry.  Maybe I'm blind to it but I don't think so.  They all seem so "leave me alone so I can just support myself and my family" type of people.  Then they go and elect all democrats and an old, retread governor named Angus.

Rome
11/8/2012 7:51:37 AM EDT
[#3]
I figured as much.  I guess Maine now has an open liberal compared to his Liberal RINO predecessor.
11/8/2012 9:18:04 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Ya know, I spend a lot of time in Maine during the year and interact with a lot of Maine's citizens.  I always come away with the feeling that they are independent, hard-working people with their noses to the grindstone.  Yet, the elections say that they are all standing there with their hands out, waiting for gubmint assistance.  I know that there are a lot of low-income areas in Maine but for the life of me I just don't see it as the largest part of their citizenry.  Maybe I'm blind to it but I don't think so.  They all seem so "leave me alone so I can just support myself and my family" type of people.  Then they go and elect all democrats and an old, retread governor named Angus.

Rome


From what I hear a tremendous amount of those nose to the grindstone people don't bother to vote.  When they say they want to be left alone they figure they shouldn't bother with other people either and to them voting is too much of a bother.  Much of NH is the same way.  
11/8/2012 9:51:55 AM EDT
[#5]
That's the only reason I can fathom as to why this exists. I'm going to check to see what % of people there did vote.  Thanks

Rome
11/8/2012 4:46:09 PM EDT
[#6]
In my OPINION, Maine has gone down the liberal toilet. Lesbians and Somalians rule the roost. After 40yrs, I moved. Much better for me now.
11/8/2012 10:31:46 PM EDT
[#7]



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In my OPINION, Maine has gone down the liberal toilet. Lesbians and Somalians rule the roost. After 40yrs, I moved. Much better for me now.


Yes I agree Maine has gone down the liberal toilet, any more room in AK, maybe its time for me to move as well lol.



 
11/9/2012 12:47:51 AM EDT
[#8]
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In my OPINION, Maine has gone down the liberal toilet. Lesbians and Somalians rule the roost. After 40yrs, I moved. Much better for me now.


Sad, but true. The urban areas have filled up with takers who vote reliably liberal and rush home to free apartments with free heat, free food and one of the most liberal free medical care systems in the country. Now they have free phones to text each other with. We even provide money for gas to get methadone addicts to the clinics for the pink stuff.
I've lived here all of my 61 years and if I was younger with less tied up in real estate, I'd be outta here like a duck shot in the ass.
As it is, I'll have to stay here and continue working until I can't anymore, no one will hire an old fart if I do figure a way to move.
As long as the sheep believe that "rich people" have a money tree and they just need to tax the money away from them, this will conttinue.
I'm afraid that eventually, there'll be no one left working and the whole thing will collapse.
Hopefully, I'll have gone to be with the Lord before then.
/Rant off/
Best Regards, Eric

PS- King is a democrat.
11/9/2012 3:19:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Isn't perspective interesting . You live there and would love to leave.  My wife and I have visited there for years and want to move there.   In our perspective, the cost of living in Maine is about 3/5ths or close to 1/2 that of CT.  I can buy a nice house with 5-10 acres for $125,000.  Ct would cost easily $275,000 for the same.  The real estate taxes on that $125k home (where we were looking/mid-coastal Maine) is only $1100.  I currently pay $5000.  And the gun laws are better.  So, if I take my retirement plan and load it into a Maine scenario, it makes my money go a lot farther.....a LOT farther than I could ever get here in my home state.  They are literally taxing the old-timers out of town and taxes are now slated to rise even further so we'll be paying close to $6k in house property taxes, alone, in a couple of years to cover some bonding.  Plus our state is broke.  And yes, we have all the same stupid taxes as you currently do especially on our cars and any tool and equipment in my shop.  Every year I have to pay for the luxury of owning them.

Just pointing out that one mans junk is another's treasure.  I don't know where you would go from Maine to stretch your dollars further: possibly down south like the Carolinas but I don't like the heat.

Just sayin

Rome
11/9/2012 4:20:04 AM EDT
[#10]


in ME, "independent" merely means "i'm a liberal democrat, but couldn't get nominated/elected with such branding".

11/9/2012 12:13:47 PM EDT
[#11]
He's a POS big government socialist.  He inherited a budget surplus when he became gov. and turned it into a huge deficit.  Wind power.......what a boondoggle.  He's phony, and will vote with the left on anything people here care about.  That is bankable.  

I'd rather have voted for the self-proclaimed liberal democrat candidate than someone who lacks the integrity to admit he's a socialist.

He's independent just like Lowell Weicker was independent.

Sam
11/9/2012 7:00:19 PM EDT
[#12]
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... They all seem so "leave me alone so I can just support myself and my family" type of people.  Then they go and elect all democrats and an old, retread governor named Angus.

Rome


It boggles my mind as well.  
11/10/2012 8:46:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Isn't perspective interesting . You live there and would love to leave.  My wife and I have visited there for years and want to move there.   In our perspective, the cost of living in Maine is about 3/5ths or close to 1/2 that of CT.  I can buy a nice house with 5-10 acres for $125,000.  Ct would cost easily $275,000 for the same.  The real estate taxes on that $125k home (where we were looking/mid-coastal Maine) is only $1100.  I currently pay $5000.  And the gun laws are better.  So, if I take my retirement plan and load it into a Maine scenario, it makes my money go a lot farther.....a LOT farther than I could ever get here in my home state.  They are literally taxing the old-timers out of town and taxes are now slated to rise even further so we'll be paying close to $6k in house property taxes, alone, in a couple of years to cover some bonding.  Plus our state is broke.  And yes, we have all the same stupid taxes as you currently do especially on our cars and any tool and equipment in my shop.  Every year I have to pay for the luxury of owning them.

Just pointing out that one mans junk is another's treasure.  I don't know where you would go from Maine to stretch your dollars further: possibly down south like the Carolinas but I don't like the heat.

Just sayin

Rome


Asia..China, I hear Malaysia has the cheapest movie tickets in the world if thats a deal breaker :), also I hear Thailand is nice if your into coke/seafood and shemales.
11/11/2012 6:54:05 AM EDT
[#14]
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In my OPINION, Maine has gone down the liberal toilet. Lesbians and Somalians rule the roost. After 40yrs, I moved. Much better for me now.


when you get out of the college towns/cities, (portland, lewiston/aubrun, brunswick, and out into the country, mainers arent liberals, (some exceptions). the problem is that most of the population that votes is wieghted to the liberal cities and towns.
11/12/2012 6:02:16 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
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Ya know, I spend a lot of time in Maine during the year and interact with a lot of Maine's citizens.  I always come away with the feeling that they are independent, hard-working people with their noses to the grindstone.  Yet, the elections say that they are all standing there with their hands out, waiting for gubmint assistance.  I know that there are a lot of low-income areas in Maine but for the life of me I just don't see it as the largest part of their citizenry.  Maybe I'm blind to it but I don't think so.  They all seem so "leave me alone so I can just support myself and my family" type of people.  Then they go and elect all democrats and an old, retread governor named Angus.

Rome


From what I hear a tremendous amount of those nose to the grindstone people don't bother to vote.  When they say they want to be left alone they figure they shouldn't bother with other people either and to them voting is too much of a bother.  Much of NH is the same way.  


They don't vote because they're all located in Downeast and northern Maine; roughly 80% of the population is in southern ME, having moved there from the socialist worker's paradises of NY, CT, and MA.

Most of the people in southern ME are rapidly liberal... and those are the votes that get people elected. Also, any liberals that I know (friends of friends or coworkers, as I have discarded all liberals from my life over the last 5-6 years) dropped the democrat candidate and supported Red Angus.

He's a shitbag liberal who has figured out there are enough idiots out there who will elect him if he puts an "I" next to his name.
11/12/2012 6:06:30 AM EDT
[#16]
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In my OPINION, Maine has gone down the liberal toilet. Lesbians and Somalians rule the roost. After 40yrs, I moved. Much better for me now.


I'm a fifth-generation downeast Maine native.

I'm going to close my 15-year old insurance business and probably leave the state within the next ten months... like 437,000 other independent agents and brokers, Obamacare will be putting me out of business due to a 90% reduction in commissions.

My wife and I are looking at GA, SC, TX, and FL.
11/13/2012 4:00:25 AM EDT
[#17]
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*snip*

My wife and I are looking at GA, SC, TX, and FL.


looking at TN, KY, and NV here...


11/13/2012 4:45:31 AM EDT
[#18]
Maine is dying.

We've had our toes over the edge for decades, but with the last election (state and national) this place is finished.
11/14/2012 7:39:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Surprise surprise... King announces today what everyone already knew - he will caucus with the Democrats.
11/15/2012 11:47:14 AM EDT
[#20]
Just to give you some perspective on why Maine is ate-the-fuck-up, let me tell you about something I saw on Facebook recently which is indicative of the way a lot of people in the southern half of the State think.

I am a member of a FB group entitled, "You know you're from Sanford, ME, if..." (After my Dad retired from the USAF, we moved there. I graduated high school there, and after my first tour of duty in the Army, I moved back for a short while before reenlisting and getting out for good. But, I still have friends and family in the area, so I stay in touch.) Anyways, towards the end of last month, a 60+ year old member of the page, a native of Sanford, created a post lamenting the closing of Ted's Fried Clams, a Wells Beach landmark, for the season. The last sentence of the post was something to the effect of "I hope all of the employees can collect for the winter." (I paraphrased, as the author's spelling sucked worse than a Keanu Reeves movie.) Essentially, he was hoping they would be entitled to collect unemployment for the winter months. Most people would say something along the lines of hoping the employees were able to find work to get them through the winter. But, not many people in Maine. A good number of them have the mentality that it's ok to work during the warm, summer months, only to sit on your ass, collecting unemployment, while you ride your snow machine or go ice fishing all winter.

It's one of many reasons I left and won't move back, despite the fact that my ex-wife took our son back there after our divorce. I hope, for his sake, he's able to get as far away from there and doesn't look back.