Posted: 7/5/2012 8:55:44 AM EDT
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First off, this has not happened to me, and is purely hypothetical.
Was thinking the other day about my permit, and about how it is a card that usually gets put in your wallet. What would happen if you went out one day, forgot your wallet at home, was carrying, and had to produce your permit? I know this has happened to some people with their drivers license, but was wondering what would happen should it be your permit. I was thinking about taking a picture of my permit with my phone, so the officer would at lease be able to look up the permit number in theory, but I'm not sure how well that would sit with the officer. |
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First off, this has not happened to me, and is purely hypothetical. Was thinking the other day about my permit, and about how it is a card that usually gets put in your wallet. What would happen if you went out one day, forgot your wallet at home, was carrying, and had to produce your permit? I know this has happened to some people with their drivers license, but was wondering what would happen should it be your permit. I was thinking about taking a picture of my permit with my phone, so the officer would at lease be able to look up the permit number in theory, but I'm not sure how well that would sit with the officer. You would be detained until it was determined that you were legal- no sure about criminal charges or loss of permit, probably let you go with a warning |
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Connecticut General Statute 29-35 states as follows:
"Carrying of pistol or revolver without permit prohibited. Exceptions." "(a) No person shall carry any pistol or revolver upon his or her person, except when such person is within the dwelling house or place of business of such person, without a permit to carry the same issued as provided in section 29-28. Picture couldn't hurt. |
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Carrying without your permit in your possession (29-35(b)) is an infraction punishable by a $35 fine (29-37(b)).
It's possible that the CGA website does not reflect the most updated figures, but there is an individual on OCDO who was recently hit with a $75 ticket when he refused to present his permit to a police officer upon request. |
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Connecticut General Statute 29-35 states as follows:
"Carrying of pistol or revolver without permit prohibited. Exceptions." "(a) No person shall carry any pistol or revolver upon his or her person, except when such person is within the dwelling house or place of business of such person, without a permit to carry the same issued as provided in section 29-28. Picture couldn't hurt. 29-35(a) is a felony that refers to not having a permit at all. You wanted 29-35(b). |
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Connecticut General Statute 29-35 states as follows:
"Carrying of pistol or revolver without permit prohibited. Exceptions." "(a) No person shall carry any pistol or revolver upon his or her person, except when such person is within the dwelling house or place of business of such person, without a permit to carry the same issued as provided in section 29-28. Picture couldn't hurt. 29-35(a) is a felony that refers to not having a permit at all. You wanted 29-35(b). Reading fail. 
You're right - clearly says you're supposed to carry it. |
| And where are they going to get that list of weapons? Unless they're compiling them from dealers they have no idea what I bought, and even then a good chunk of what I have is not from dealers. The only thing they'll be able to pull up in CT is the permit info, past that would require some digging. Not that they couldn't, but it's not "side of the road" kind of activity. |
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And where are they going to get that list of weapons? Unless they're compiling them from dealers they have no idea what I bought, and even then a good chunk of what I have is not from dealers. The only thing they'll be able to pull up in CT is the permit info, past that would require some digging. Not that they couldn't, but it's not "side of the road" kind of activity. Anything bought on a DPS-3 in the last 15 or so years CT can be pulled up rather quickly. I hear gun serials being run all the time on my scanner. Also, I've seen several responses to domestics or suicide threats where that data is read off quickly right after dispatch. If you bought FTF, I suppose you are clear. But even FTF handguns are supposed to get called into DPS, so they show up too. Dispatchers usually come back with all handguns owned because it is hard for the officer to figure out what is what depending on the record being copied back. I'm sure that getting caught without your permit, and without a gun that was called in upon transfer would probably result in varying responses including possible temporary seizure depending on the authority. I have handguns that are not on paper, but they predate any state or federal record keeping. This still does not mean that they are not my property. I've heard some pretty impressive arsenals being copied back. 
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Quoted: Quoted: And where are they going to get that list of weapons? Unless they're compiling them from dealers they have no idea what I bought, and even then a good chunk of what I have is not from dealers. The only thing they'll be able to pull up in CT is the permit info, past that would require some digging. Not that they couldn't, but it's not "side of the road" kind of activity. Anything bought on a DPS-3 in the last 15 or so years CT can be pulled up rather quickly. I hear gun serials being run all the time on my scanner. Also, I've seen several responses to domestics or suicide threats where that data is read off quickly right after dispatch. If you bought FTF, I suppose you are clear. But even FTF handguns are supposed to get called into DPS, so they show up too. Dispatchers usually come back with all handguns owned because it is hard for the officer to figure out what is what depending on the record being copied back. I'm sure that getting caught without your permit, and without a gun that was called in upon transfer would probably result in varying responses including possible temporary seizure depending on the authority. I have handguns that are not on paper, but they predate any state or federal record keeping. This still does not mean that they are not my property. I've heard some pretty impressive arsenals being copied back. While I'm a big fan of hearing the arsenals being read over the radio, I am more impressed by hearing Name, DOB, address, and SSN |
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And where are they going to get that list of weapons? Unless they're compiling them from dealers they have no idea what I bought, and even then a good chunk of what I have is not from dealers. The only thing they'll be able to pull up in CT is the permit info, past that would require some digging. Not that they couldn't, but it's not "side of the road" kind of activity. Anything bought on a DPS-3 in the last 15 or so years CT can be pulled up rather quickly. I hear gun serials being run all the time on my scanner. Also, I've seen several responses to domestics or suicide threats where that data is read off quickly right after dispatch. If you bought FTF, I suppose you are clear. But even FTF handguns are supposed to get called into DPS, so they show up too. Dispatchers usually come back with all handguns owned because it is hard for the officer to figure out what is what depending on the record being copied back. I'm sure that getting caught without your permit, and without a gun that was called in upon transfer would probably result in varying responses including possible temporary seizure depending on the authority. I have handguns that are not on paper, but they predate any state or federal record keeping. This still does not mean that they are not my property. I've heard some pretty impressive arsenals being copied back. While I'm a big fan of hearing the arsenals being read over the radio, I am more impressed by hearing Name, DOB, address, and SSN
Please don't give them any reasons for encrypting pub safety comms. "We're going to hide our activities, for YOUR safety", is the last reason they need to end the transparency of pub safety comms, when the actual number of crimes committed with data transmitted over pub safety comms virtually nonexistent. I like to think that the idea of a RF panopticon keeps enforcement transparent and honest. They are using your airwaves, and you have a right to be informed as to what is going on around you. 
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