Posted: 8/6/2011 6:57:27 AM EDT
| Thoughts on the PRS? Ct legal? |
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I've got one on a post ban target build.
Bushmaster custom shop uses them on their ban compliant PMR (according to this link..) http://www.bushmaster.com/bcs/BCSRev2.pdf |
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There is no real answer to this. Try it, but it is a calculated risk.
53-202a prohibits telescoping stocks. Telescoping: 2. To make more compact or concise; condense. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Telescoping Though it is meant for fitment, it does get smaller. There is no law on this to know, so anything you assume is speculation. New Yorkers also tend to stay away from this stock for the NY AWB. I wouldn't put this on one of my CT guns; not worth it. |
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There is no real answer to this. Try it, but it is a calculated risk. 53-202a prohibits telescoping stocks. Telescoping: 2. To make more compact or concise; condense. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Telescoping Though it is meant for fitment, it does get smaller. There is no law on this to know, so anything you assume is speculation. New Yorkers also tend to stay away from this stock for the NY AWB. I wouldn't put this on one of my CT guns; not worth it. 
its not telescoping, not collapsible, it is adjustable. its GTG |
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There is no real answer to this. Try it, but it is a calculated risk. 53-202a prohibits telescoping stocks. Telescoping: 2. To make more compact or concise; condense. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Telescoping Though it is meant for fitment, it does get smaller. There is no law on this to know, so anything you assume is speculation. New Yorkers also tend to stay away from this stock for the NY AWB. I wouldn't put this on one of my CT guns; not worth it.
its not telescoping, not collapsible, it is adjustable. its GTG Willing to bet someone else's freedom on that? Where is your authority for such a distinction? Because it moves 1-3" instead of 1-6"? Iffy at best, not worth the potential trouble for me, but do as you please. |
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your kidding right? we just want facts here. not any fear mongering. you could have whatever opinion you want, but it isn't going to change facts. The FACT is that its length can be easily changed by an inch. Consider this thread with ATF opinion from the NJ HTF: http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=50&t=386150 The fact that it is questionable is evidenced by the literally hundreds of people asking about it and differing responses from ATF and other authorities. The answer is, there is no answer. It may be OK, you will probably never have to worry about it BUT, if you got jammed up, you might take a ride for it or even be forced to defend your opinion. I don't deal in opinion and speculation when I commit to deeming something legal. Without binding legal precedent it is conceivable that given the right set of circumstances it could be a problem for you. No amount of internet lawyering and wordplay is going to remove the ambiguity that exists. You need to be absolutely positive before you go authorize someone to play games with their freedom, and here, there is no acceptable level of certainty. I'm not saying, "Do it," or "Don't do it," I'm saying that there is a risk the user should be aware of and to ignore that risk is dishonest and unfair. If you were my client I would not, given the current state of the law, advise you to install this stock on a post-ban gun. The benefit v. risk doesn't pan out here in favor of the stock when you can just as easily buy something that isn't questionable but functions almost identically, or, alternatively, buy it, adjust it and then fix it in place. Again, it is PROBABLY fine, but still a measured risk. This thread is somewhat encouraging, though also not binding precedent: http://jobrelatedstuff.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=26&t=401615 I also think that you would stand a better chance of not being hassled for it in CT than in MA, NY or NJ. For me, personally, it's just not worth having one more item to have to explain. The point is, it is not a complete, 100% in the bag certainty that you will never see a problem because of it. |
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There is no gray area on this one IMHO. It's a fixed length stock with the ability for it get longer, not shorter. That right there is enough for me to sleep easy knowing I am not breaking any ct statutes.
Now, if the PRS got shorter..sure. But it doesn't. It is a fixed length that only gets longer for fine tuning. Quoted: Though it is meant for fitment, it does get smaller.
Incorrect. it is installed as a fixed (known) length and can ONLY grow. NOT get smaller. |
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Personally, I wouldn't worry about it on an obvious target or long range gun.
However, all it would tak to make this thing "collapsable" would be a PR stunt by the AG surrounded by Nancy Wyman, a few CLEOs, Pedro Segarra and his Bport and NH counterparts, and a few weeping mothers of expired inner city yoots who were shot with garbage pocket guns, not EBRs, and a table full of subguns and EBRs confiiscated a decade ago but with a PRS equipped rifle front and center, and I would have it on the EE later that night. |
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There is no gray area on this one IMHO. It's a fixed length stock with the ability for it get longer, not shorter. That right there is enough for me to sleep easy knowing I am not breaking any ct statutes. Now, if the PRS got shorter..sure. But it doesn't. It is a fixed length that only gets longer for fine tuning. Quoted: Though it is meant for fitment, it does get smaller.
Incorrect. it is installed as a fixed (known) length and can ONLY grow. NOT get smaller. Mfg states that it can be shortened by .25" or extended by .75" giving it an overall travel of 1". Once it extends out is can be retracted. |