Posted: 5/12/2011 11:07:48 AM EDT
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So I am curious, what is the bottom line on these things? Are they okay to have, just don't try to carry them? Or just a no-go all together?
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So I am curious, what is the bottom line on these things? Are they okay to have, just don't try to carry them? Or just a no-go all together? I am located in CT btw Where on earth did you find a Ballistic Knife ? I have not seen one in over 25 years- I have never seen one in person. There were some that were imported from either Russia/Eastern Europe for a brief period of time but I think they were banned from importation, They may have been banned period- not sure on that. I have seen one for sale maybe on GB but it did not have the spring. I think they were marketed as Spetsnaz ballistic knives I would have to think that they would definitely be illegal here in Ct= you might be able to have one in your house but you would not be able to carry it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: So I am curious, what is the bottom line on these things? Are they okay to have, just don't try to carry them? Or just a no-go all together? I am located in CT btw Where on earth did you find a Ballistic Knife ? I have not seen one in over 25 years- I have never seen one in person. There were some that were imported from either Russia/Eastern Europe for a brief period of time but I think they were banned from importation, They may have been banned period- not sure on that. I have seen one for sale maybe on GB but it did not have the spring. I think they were marketed as Spetsnaz ballistic knives I would have to think that they would definitely be illegal here in Ct= you might be able to have one in your house but you would not be able to carry it. I believe that by its definition "ballistic knife" falls under the following wording in CT law (Which means it is legal to have but not legal to carry around. Federal law banned the importation of ballistic knives and also banned the ability to sell them across state lines): (a) Any person who carries upon one's person any BB. gun, blackjack, metal or brass knuckles, or any dirk knife, or any switch knife, or any knife having an automatic spring release device by which a blade is released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches in length, or stiletto, or any knife the edged portion of the blade of which is four inches or over in length |
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So I am curious, what is the bottom line on these things? Are they okay to have, just don't try to carry them? Or just a no-go all together? I am located in CT btw Where on earth did you find a Ballistic Knife ? I have not seen one in over 25 years- I have never seen one in person. There were some that were imported from either Russia/Eastern Europe for a brief period of time but I think they were banned from importation, They may have been banned period- not sure on that. I have seen one for sale maybe on GB but it did not have the spring. I think they were marketed as Spetsnaz ballistic knives I would have to think that they would definitely be illegal here in Ct= you might be able to have one in your house but you would not be able to carry it. I don't have one. I was asking in case I ever had some free funds and wanted a cool toy / conversation piece. The last gun show I went to, there was a dealer who had one. It was actually really nice, but used the 5 gram CO2 catriges instead of a spring. I looked at it, but I don't remember if it was for sale or not. The thought has been lingering in my mind, and I finally remembered to post about the legalities. |
Like this?
A CT based company.http://www.waspknife.com/index.php |
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Like this? http://www.waspknife.com/images/cutaway.gif A CT based company.http://www.waspknife.com/index.php Yes actually, that was the same set-up I saw. I guess it wasnt a balistic knife then. I thought it used the preasure of the co2 cartrige to launch the blade. I guess not. Thats a pretty interesting design. I wonder what it would do if you used that on a person on land. |
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So wait, legally you cant carry a blade over 1.5 inches??? Yeah...about that? Who DOESNT have a knife in their pocket right now? -J The way I read it, the 1 1/2" is for a "spring" style knife ie a switch-blade. A typical non-assisted knife has the restriction of 4" blade length. At least this is how I read it. The 4" thing is sketchy too. On my knife, if you measure the blade, it is 3 7/8" long, but if you were to measure the actuall cutting edge of it, it is over 4" due to the fact that it is a tanto style blade. Kinda grey on my knife TBH |
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Yes, you can't walk around with a BB gun unless it is on your own property or you are heading to an event, even though by CT laws it is a firearm (and if the barrel is under 12" it is also a pistol)  I think all of my BB guns are pre-bans, i have threaded muzzles, bayonet lugs, air suppressors, air hiders, folding/collapsable stocks and pistol grips, extended magazines. I am a real menace to the squirrels in my hood! 
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Yes, you can't walk around with a BB gun unless it is on your own property or you are heading to an event, even though by CT laws it is a firearm (and if the barrel is under 12" it is also a pistol) I think all of my BB guns are pre-bans, i have threaded muzzles, bayonet lugs, air suppressors, air hiders, folding/collapsable stocks and pistol grips, extended magazines. I am a real menace to the squirrels in my hood! forgot to say i have SB BB guns, AO BB guns, MG BB Guns, pistol BB guns, Rifle BB guns I am all about the BB |
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Yes, you can't walk around with a BB gun unless it is on your own property or you are heading to an event, even though by CT laws it is a firearm (and if the barrel is under 12" it is also a pistol) I think all of my BB guns are pre-bans, i have threaded muzzles, bayonet lugs, air suppressors, air hiders, folding/collapsable stocks and pistol grips, extended magazines. I am a real menace to the squirrels in my hood! That's actuallly something that has been debated before, and is another grey area. A few years ago, when they were considering the omnibus firearms bill in the lesgislature, the definition language was going to be changed to specifically exclude airguns from the definition of a firearm, for most purposes. (for other purposes) that bill failed, thankfully. There is case law that affirms them being firearms for the purposes of the Assault with a Deadly Weapon charge. When I tried to research it on Westlaw, further, I couldn't find any case-law history concerning whether or not a BB gun meets the definition of a firearm for the purposes of 'carrying (a pistol) without a permti', unlawful transfer, criminal purchase, or unlawful purchase/ attempt statutes. I wouldn't be surprised in part of that might be because of the fact that prosecutions are so uncommon (or existant/??) that one has never made it to appeals.[You would also notice that neither DPS/CSP nor local authorities tend to bust sellers/ posessors on transfer-procedure, unlawful sale, AW, offensive/ unregistered MG , etc... for various airguns even though they probably could try.....though there is also the federal preemption on state/muni sale regulation, outside of age of majority issues). There is also a legislative intent argument that they are not necessarily firearms because of the verbiage and exemptions of the dangerous weapon and related statutes ( for example, an individual shouldn't be charged with dangerous weapon/53-206 for a firearm). Though the term 'air rifle' was removed from the definition of a dangerous weapon in 2000 (or was it 1998, I forget), the legislature specifically retained a judicial reference citing that a single shot .22 caliber air rifle is a dangerous weapon. You also notice that in most state and muni statutes and ordinances, bb guns (and other air guns/ like devices) are just about always enumerated seperatly, though for (example, ADW purposes) they both fall under the firearm definition relating to the ability to expel a shot. |
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Yes, you can't walk around with a BB gun unless it is on your own property or you are heading to an event, even though by CT laws it is a firearm (and if the barrel is under 12" it is also a pistol) I think all of my BB guns are pre-bans, i have threaded muzzles, bayonet lugs, air suppressors, air hiders, folding/collapsable stocks and pistol grips, extended magazines. I am a real menace to the squirrels in my hood! That's actuallly something that has been debated before, and is another grey area. A few years ago, when they were considering the omnibus firearms bill in the lesgislature, the definition language was going to be changed to specifically exclude airguns from the definition of a firearm, for most purposes. (for other purposes) that bill failed, thankfully. There is case law that affirms them being firearms for the purposes of the Assault with a Deadly Weapon charge. When I tried to research it on Westlaw, further, I couldn't find any case-law history concerning whether or not a BB gun meets the definition of a firearm for the purposes of 'carrying (a pistol) without a permti', unlawful transfer, criminal purchase, or unlawful purchase/ attempt statutes. I wouldn't be surprised in part of that might be because of the fact that prosecutions are so uncommon (or existant/??) that one has never made it to appeals.[You would also notice that neither DPS/CSP nor local authorities tend to bust sellers/ posessors on transfer-procedure, unlawful sale, AW, offensive/ unregistered MG , etc... for various airguns even though they probably could try.....though there is also the federal preemption on state/muni sale regulation, outside of age of majority issues). There is also a legislative intent argument that they are not necessarily firearms because of the verbiage and exemptions of the dangerous weapon and related statutes ( for example, an individual shouldn't be charged with dangerous weapon/53-206 for a firearm). Though the term 'air rifle' was removed from the definition of a dangerous weapon in 2000 (or was it 1998, I forget), the legislature specifically retained a judicial reference citing that a single shot .22 caliber air rifle is a dangerous weapon. You also notice that in most state and muni statutes and ordinances, bb guns (and other air guns/ like devices) are just about always enumerated seperatly, though for (example, ADW purposes) they both fall under the firearm definition relating to the ability to expel a shot. My bb guns dont even have serial numbers |
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Silly is right.
All you need to carry a knife longer than 4" is a fishing license? Its so stupid. I used my machete to gut my trout once...really. This is the same state that allows schools to suspend 8 yr olds for bringing a plastic knife to school, so he can spread peanut butter on his frigging apple. We select, elect and pay these idiots to act on our behalf? |