Posted: 10/2/2009 5:32:10 PM EDT
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In what order do you need to get an SBR in CT? I see an upper I like (AR-15), but I'm thinking I can't get that until I do something else first. |
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While I haven't done it myself yet, I have been studying. The way I understand it, Connecticut requires no different process than anywhere else.
You fill out the ATF Form 1, obtaining a signature from the cheif law enforcement official in your town, or using a trust or LLC. Send in the Form 1 with everything else that's required (fingerprints, passport photos, etc.), and a $200 check or money order for the tax stamp. Then, some opinions differ on the next part......You can buy the SBR upper, but you could get in trouble for "constructive intent" by having the SBR upper and a lower receiver that can accept the upper, without being in possession of the tax stamp. I've heard of some guys who buy the upper and keep it at someone's house who doesn't own an AR-15. If you buy the upper locally, I'm sure the gun shop can hold onto it until you get your tax stamp. Also, I don't know if you thought of it, but you can build an SBR on a post-ban lower, but it must meet the post-ban requirements (no flash hider, collapsible stock, etc.) To me, a fixed stock defeats the purpose of an SBR. which is compactness, and a muzzle break on a 10 or 11" barrel will probably be painful and annoying at best. Also, you won't be able to add a sound suppressor if you wanted to. This is why I'm building an SBR on my pre-ban PWA lower. I can have all the evil features, including a Noveske KX3 flash hider which is purpose built for SBR's. I can also add a sound suppressor in the future. SBR FAQ |
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I have 2 SBRs, soon to be 3.
One of the first things you do is get your lower engraved with your name (or trust name), town and state. Then send in your Form 1 making sure to put down the engraved portion as another identifier. SOme will say you can send in the Form 1 while waiting for the engraved lower to come back. The problem is if they screw up the engraving your paperwork will not match- yes you can send in an addendum to ATF but thats just another hassle. Send in your Form 1 just like any other NFA item. Note for caliber you can only put "Multi" if that is what the lower says- otherwise its whatever is stamped on the side. Possession of a <16" upper without the form while having a rifle lower can be construed as constructive intent. To keep hassles to a minimum either wait to order it, have the dealer hold it, keep it at a friends house, etc. I personally have a stripped AR lower marked "pistol" that allows me to keep a spare NFA upper without a hassle. ALso remember that you can have multiple uppers (assuming you have one AR only or enough SBRed lowers to account for all NFA uppers) and can freely switch between them. However, you must keep at least one upper having the barrel length noted on your form in order to put it back to its Form 1 or Form 4 config. As stated by fst96ss your SBR must conform to the state AWB. Where I disagree is the stock- there are a number of very compact fixed stocks out there as well as some pretty radical breaks that essentially work as flashhiders. |
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Quoted: I have 2 SBRs, soon to be 3. One of the first things you do is get your lower engraved with your name (or trust name), town and state. Then send in your Form 1 making sure to put down the engraved portion as another identifier. Do you have any suggestions for an engraver? Send in your Form 1 just like any other NFA item. Note for caliber you can only put "Multi" if that is what the lower says- otherwise its whatever is stamped on the side. I have a Spikes lower marked Multi I'd like to use for this build. Its one of 2 stripped lowers I have at the moment. Possession of a <16" upper without the form while having a rifle lower can be construed as constructive intent. This was the part I was unsure of. ALso remember that you can have multiple uppers (assuming you have one AR only or enough SBRed lowers to account for all NFA uppers) and can freely switch between them. However, you must keep at least one upper having the barrel length noted on your form in order to put it back to its Form 1 or Form 4 config. As stated by fst96ss your SBR must conform to the state AWB. Where I disagree is the stock- there are a number of very compact fixed stocks out there as well as some pretty radical breaks that essentially work as flashhiders. I'm not sure what the stock will be, I had a carbine length Ace stock I might try again. I'm still on a quest for a reasonably priced preban lower, but I can use the one I have now since the upper I'm looking at complies with the AWB. |
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I have 2 SBRs, soon to be 3. One of the first things you do is get your lower engraved with your name (or trust name), town and state. Then send in your Form 1 making sure to put down the engraved portion as another identifier. Do you have any suggestions for an engraver? Send in your Form 1 just like any other NFA item. Note for caliber you can only put "Multi" if that is what the lower says- otherwise its whatever is stamped on the side. I have a Spikes lower marked Multi I'd like to use for this build. Its one of 2 stripped lowers I have at the moment. Possession of a <16" upper without the form while having a rifle lower can be construed as constructive intent. This was the part I was unsure of. ALso remember that you can have multiple uppers (assuming you have one AR only or enough SBRed lowers to account for all NFA uppers) and can freely switch between them. However, you must keep at least one upper having the barrel length noted on your form in order to put it back to its Form 1 or Form 4 config. As stated by fst96ss your SBR must conform to the state AWB. Where I disagree is the stock- there are a number of very compact fixed stocks out there as well as some pretty radical breaks that essentially work as flashhiders. I'm not sure what the stock will be, I had a carbine length Ace stock I might try again. I'm still on a quest for a reasonably priced preban lower, but I can use the one I have now since the upper I'm looking at complies with the AWB. Go preban. Postban is just a pain. |
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Go preban. Postban is just a pain. Agreed. Also, if you plan to get a suppressor in the future, a pre-ban will mean you won't have to have it perm attached. I had my C3 dealer send out my lower to get engraved so I don't know who he sent it to. Andrew WHat would permanently attaching a suppressor accomplish? Connecticut takes the ATF position that a suppressor is a flash hider. As such you cant mount them- legally- on a post-ban. By this thinking then if you permanently mount an A2 birdcage you are not violating the AWB. Perma-mount any of the brakes that can accept a QD can (AAC, Surefire, etc) so if you ever move out of state you can get a suppressor to put on it in the future. Of course as others stated- get a pre-ban and done worry about any of this crap. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Originally Posted By PGAEMU Go preban. Postban is just a pain. Not really an option since I don't have a preban lower. They are out there. I know they are, but I already have a lower that I can use, and the upper I'm looking at is AWB compliant. Maybe down the road, IF I can find a REASONABLY priced one, I'll grab it. |