Posted: 1/24/2015 10:18:32 AM EDT
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How you guys and gals store your firearms, ammo and related stuff...we are now looking to purchase a home here in OKC and i wondering about some ideas. Generally i have lived in smaller towns across the country where the crime rate wasnt so brazen as it is here. Seems everyone wants your stuff more then you do around this joint.
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I got a Liberty Fatboy Jr from H&H to store the guns, I don't store ammo in the safe. Its not necessarily cheap, but they have the guys that are trained to move them, have the proper equipment, and can bolt it down if you want. I got rifle rods off Amazon to line the rifles up, they work far better than the racks. |
| We have a Browning safe, I don't remember the exact model but it's a beast. We also got ours at H&H. They delivered and set it up, bolted it to the foundation, everything. It's an extra cost but it's definitely worth the extra money. We also use "rifle rods" instead of the factory racks. They allow you to store many more rifles than the safe was designed to. If you can afford to invest in a good gun safe, not those Stack-On things, it's one of the best investments you can ever make. I HIGHLY recommend a quality gun safe, properly mounted, if you can swing it. |
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I've done tons of research on this very subject over a period of a few years and have come to these conclusions:
1) Anything is better than nothing 2) Whatever you get needs to be bolted down and/or placed where it is unable to be tipped over. 3) Avoid electronic locks. 4) Rated capacities are a lie. Figure 1/2 to 2/3 of what they say. Even a Stack-On bolted to the wall will usually deter thieves especially if you have it where you can't get tools to it. I have up a RedHead from Bass Pro that's pretty decent and has a S&G manual lock. I really don't think you'll find a big difference in durability with any of your common RSCs so get whatever you like best. What you can get also depends on your location: house, trailer, apartment? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Where it goes is definitely the deciding factor.
If you go search some videos you'll see just how fast a determined thief can get into a lesser made safe and I mean actual big, heavy gun safes not Stack On. Now after watching a couple guys get into a "real" safe in under a couple minutes with only crow bars, you can imagine how long it will take to get into one of the cheap "gun lockers". Obviously anything is better than nothing but be prepared to get the absolute best you can get. I knew a guy who had one of the "lesser" Stack On "gun safes" and he came home one day and someone had broken in and just picked up the whole thing and stole it. Fortunately he had insurance and he was able to replace some of the guns. He also upgraded to one of the "high end" Stack On "safes" that bolted to the wall so the same thing wouldn't happen again. Well, later, I believe it was in the same year, his house was broken into again but this time they used a chainsaw to cut the wall studs the "safe" was bolted to and, again, picked up the whole thing and stole it. He originally said he couldn't afford to buy an actual name brand gun safe and he didn't want to pay someone to deliver it and set it up. After it was all said and done he said it would have been cheaper to buy the good safe and have it installed than to deal with everything else but hindsight is 20/20. That's not to say everyone should buy a quality, big, heavy safe because it's just not always possible. I used a cheap as crap Stack On "gun locker" for a few years because I was living in a third floor apartment where that was all I could do. I knew it would take someone with a crowbar about a minute and a half to get into but I didn't have a choice. There are actually far better options these days to hide your guns in locations where you can't put a real safe that are probably far safer than a cheap gun locker, explore your options in that case. Long story short, anything is better than nothing but do the most you can do, it may look expensive now but consider the after effects of coming home and finding all your guns gone and ask yourself again what you wished you had done. |
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Its really important to bolt it down, there are videos on YouTube of guys breaking into safes by laying them down, that allows them to apply a lot more leverage to the doors using long pry bars and their weight to help. It's pretty impressive how much hurting a big guy with a 6' bar can put on a safe. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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It's pretty impressive how much hurting a big guy with a 6' bar can put on a safe. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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Its really important to bolt it down, there are videos on YouTube of guys breaking into safes by laying them down, that allows them to apply a lot more leverage to the doors using long pry bars and their weight to help. It's pretty impressive how much hurting a big guy with a 6' bar can put on a safe. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Pretty intimidating too, it'll sure make you reconsider cheaping out when gun safe shopping. If I was one of those wealthy folks, I'd build a fancy gun vault room. I've seen a few of those that just made my eyes pop out with envy, good luck getting into one of those. |
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An ICF concrete attached room is what i am thinking of doing, i would like it to be big enough for everything firearm related....and a bench for cleaning/maintenance. Thanks all for the ideas. That would be sweet, most safe companies also sell vault doors for such things. |
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If I was building a room or buying a safe it would be Ft. Knox.
Ft Knox vault room doors I've read that if you get a safe, put it against a wall with the hinges away from the wall. It's harder for someone to pry on the door if it opens on the side nearest the wall. |
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Think maybe i will look into a smaller shipping container for this....they are pretty cheap these days and are pretty solid steel. Under ground cement with anchors to weld the container too should keep it somewhat tornado proof, and working with the steel incorporating the siding to match the house would be pretty easy. Interior would be pretty easy to work with too.
Anyone ever think about this? Or know someone who has? Thanks |