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7/14/2014 3:32:34 AM EDT
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/05/28/Border-Patrol-We-Dont-Screen-For-Diseases

This is reaching critical mass on the border. You may think it is tinfoil stuff but please be warned. The flu epidemic of WWI may be a small thing next to what may be coming. Take it for what you want.

ETA With the increase in , unscreened illegal aliens in this nation, diseases that were extremely rare in the US is on the rise.
Whooping cough is an example.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=116637
Whether you want to make the connection of the rise of infectious diseases to the huge influx of non vaccinated illegals in this country, the statistics are suspiciously connected. Again, take it how you want.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/127437.php
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7/14/2014 5:58:37 AM EDT
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TB, Pink Eye, Sour Bag, hell, it's all coming to a theater near you.
7/14/2014 7:10:06 AM EDT
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When school starts it may start hitting.
Young non vaccinted chilfren will be the ones with the greatest risk.
And the carriers!
Older folks will also be in the high risk category.
What can happen is scaring the hell out of me.
7/14/2014 10:24:27 AM EDT
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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/05/28/Border-Patrol-We-Dont-Screen-For-Diseases
This is reaching critical mass on the border. You may think it is tinfoil stuff but please be warned. The flu epidemic of WWI may be a small thing next to what may be coming. Take it for what you want.
ETA With the increase in , unscreened illegal aliens in this nation, diseases that were extremely rare in the US is on the rise.



Whooping cough is an example.



http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=116637



Whether you want to make the connection of the rise of infectious diseases to the huge influx of non vaccinated illegals in this country, the statistics are suspiciously connected. Again, take it how you want.



http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/127437.php



ETA 2 If you cannot link to these sites, cut and paste. For some reason, they won't hot link.
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Links fixed:





http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=116637





http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/127437.php
 
 
 
7/14/2014 11:56:54 AM EDT
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how the hell can they get into school?

we are trying to get my daughter into headstart and it takes a freakin act of congress to get her in.
7/14/2014 12:02:51 PM EDT
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Yeah schools have to have proof of immunization before registration...think that is nationwide.
7/14/2014 3:29:14 PM EDT
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Nope! You can opt out!
7/14/2014 4:22:41 PM EDT
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Since when?
7/14/2014 4:28:10 PM EDT
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The government is releasing the illegal immigrants (teenage kids and younger) with a paper giving them a court date to appear beore an immigration judge months down the line. That is accepted by the TSA and DHS as ID when they board airplanes - commercial aircraft - and are flown at taxpayer's consent all over the nation to "family". They are not being medically screened.
They will not show up at the immigration hearing.
The government may suspend all regulations for these children and let them into Headstart programs like they did with no IDs for commercial flight. They are trying to get them all over the country.  And "integrate them" into American society.
We are in serious trouble.
We are under biological attack by design under a false flag of "humanitarian crisis".
Even a US general in charge of SOCOM said the border siuation is an extremely serious security threat to America.
http://conservativetribune.com/general-border-crisis-threatens-americas-existence/
7/15/2014 4:43:40 AM EDT
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Nope! You can opt out!

Since when?

Not sure since when but if you look here under Parents - How to Meet the School Requirements, about the middle of the paragraph it says "Oklahoma law allows exemptions for medical, religious or personal reasons. "
7/15/2014 6:01:28 AM EDT
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And here I thought this,was about the restaurant... So much disappoint
7/15/2014 6:14:27 AM EDT
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Are you going to troll or contribute in this thread?
If you think my posts are too much of the sky is falling, then please ignore them and let them die.
I won't waste my time in GD but I do feel some sort of responsibility to my fellow Okies.
I sincerely believe there is a severe threat to them and this country.
I don't mind someone not believing what discourse I initiate but ridicule and trolling, even if done in ignorance, is uncalled for..
7/15/2014 9:43:21 AM EDT
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I have children 32 years old down to 2 years old...that was a requirement in AZ, SD, and CT where they went to schools. I dont remember anything about opting out or anything other then they asked for immunization records and they had to be updated.
7/15/2014 9:45:04 AM EDT
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An excerpt from CDC website..."No federal vaccination laws exist, but all 50 states require certain vaccinations for children entering public schools."

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/laws/state-reqs.html

I am sure some states may have clauses allowing children not to be immunized for various reasons, but i think personally it is not in the best interest if they are not. I am 52 years old, have had all immunizations from childhood as well as wide scale deployment immunizations from the service...and i have survived just fine. Personally i think there should be no clauses, either your children are immunized or they do not attend public schools. No parent has the right to deny their children immunizations on any grounds or basis, enroll them into a school and potentially infect MY child. I believe there are free immunization clinics for those who cannot otherwise afford them both for themselves and their children as well.
7/15/2014 9:57:30 AM EDT
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I was reading yesterday where some border patrol cops had caught scabies from illegals...they said there is no requirement nor means to check illegals at processing stations for disease...i guess it sucks to be them...wonder how something that basic escapes their common sense...rubber gloves are not the cure all preventative measures...i used to work in a private, federal immigration contract prison/ICE detention facility in the 1990's in central AZ. Every inmate or detainee brought into the facility went straight to a decon room where they stripped butt naked and allowed to shower then were doused with some white powder stuff head to toe...forgot over the years what the powder was, but remember it was to kill parasites and external potential disease causing things...was pretty effective.
7/15/2014 12:11:04 PM EDT
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Don't feel bad, I thought the same thing also.


No returning this to regularly scheduled thread.

7/15/2014 1:00:16 PM EDT
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its taco fix tuesday at otb



i know this issue really has you pumped up daa9mm, but what can we really do about it?
7/15/2014 2:03:41 PM EDT
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Pandemics have destroyed civilizations. One third of Europe died from the Black Death.
It is estimated 90% of native Americans died after mixing with the first Europeans.
In modern times the SpanishFlu killed over 20,000,000 right after WW I.
Modern medicine knows we have another coming, but when is the question.
Fear of pandemics is why the CDC exists.
What can we do?
Stand by and watch your neighbors, co-workers, and family die from something that shouldn't have happened?
I do not know of the solution but I know ignoring the cause of a pandemic will only make it that much worse.
American society is only 3 days away from massive chaos if the grocery shelves are empty. Interstate commerce will stop if a massive epidemic breaks out.
In the struggle to restore order, you can kiss your freedoms good bye forever when the iron hand of authority regains control.
NOLA and Katrina will look like a little pot hole compared to the abyss that could open in our nation's path.
The sky is not falling yet but the chance of it happening is far more probable than in anytime of my 35 years of life.
Obama and the federal government are the reason.
ETA if our medical system becomes overloaded with a pandemic, something simple like appendicitis will probably cause your death.
Those who need medical care like the elderly will probably not recieve it. Triage will be in effect and the government may decide where resources are assigned.
That alone should scare the hell out of you.
7/15/2014 2:28:33 PM EDT
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You certainly are trying to be the fear spreader...which by the way, accomplishes nothing.

If a pandemic is gonna start, it isnt going to really matter if illegal aliens are allowed into the country or not. We have flights all the time coming from the same country these people are from...nothing to stop it entering that way. In fact, if you really apply some thought...there is no way to stop a pandemic from starting...

The CDC is not here because of fear of pandemic...the CDC is here to hopefully stop the wide spread damage of a pandemic as well as try and prevent one. Control and containment as well as treat.

Just a suggestion, maybe dont spend so my time on the "doomsday" websites or the radical politics websites. They are deluded with fear instilling statements which have no factual support other then pure speculation.
7/15/2014 2:38:56 PM EDT
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You certainly are trying to be the fear spreader...which by the way, accomplishes nothing.

If a pandemic is gonna start, it isnt going to really matter if illegal aliens are allowed into the country or not. We have flights all the time coming from the same country these people are from...nothing to stop it entering that way. In fact, if you really apply some thought...there is no way to stop a pandemic from starting...

The CDC is not here because of fear of pandemic...the CDC is here to hopefully stop the wide spread damage of a pandemic as well as try and prevent one. Control and containment as well as treat.

Just a suggestion, maybe dont spend so my time on the "doomsday" websites or the radical politics websites. They are deluded with fear instilling statements which have no factual support other then pure speculation.
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I appreciate your comments and do admit there is truth to much of it.
But this is tornado alley. Most of us have seen massive destruction come out of nowhere.
Some people put in storm shelters they never use. Others have their lives saved by the ones they install.
Are the ones who never use theirs Chicken Littles?
Along the same lines you are saying if the weatherman screams tornado too many times people will ignore him.
And that has happened. And people died.
All I can say is that many people I know in the health care industry are afraid too of what is coming from this situation.
7/15/2014 3:39:13 PM EDT
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That's how most people are anyway. How many times did the weather guys say there was gonna be a tornado on may 31st and how many idiots ignored it? Ignorance is out there but those,who know better took shelter. However even some of those that took cover died too. So it's literally a gamble. As was stated, what can you do? Take up arms and help the militia secure the border? Sure, have fun. Vote the idiots out of office? Shit might be done by then but they still need to go. I get your concern but there isn't a whole world of things Jane and Joe citizen can do at this moment. The radio station I listen to on AM radio ALWAYS talks about the border and the BS going on. It's a conservative station so I know there is at least a shred of truth to it.

7/15/2014 3:49:51 PM EDT
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Preparedness is not the same thing as instilling fear. If you look throughout history, the people who instill fear into others in an effort to promote their own agenda have been called radicals, dictators, etc etc. Nothing wrong at all with raising awareness and encouraging preparedness, but i think it should be done with factual information minus the drama that seems to accompany it everywhere. Tell someone a tornado may come and kill them. They dont need to be told a tornado WILL come and kill them and their family, destroy their life, etc etc, and then offer the only solution is through whatever.

I dont know, maybe i am not conveying my message correctly...all one can do is pass the message on, encourage preparation, and then move on.

Have a good one.
7/15/2014 3:50:49 PM EDT
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It is what you don't know and don't see that will bite you in the ass, especially if you don't look.
What those who run government fear the most is an informed and active constituency.
What has happened would never have occurred if the mainstream news media were not purposefully keeping the truth from the people.
7/15/2014 4:05:19 PM EDT
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Preparedness is not the same thing as instilling fear. If you look throughout history, the people who instill fear into others in an effort to promote their own agenda have been called radicals, dictators, etc etc. Nothing wrong at all with raising awareness and encouraging preparedness, but i think it should be done with factual information minus the drama that seems to accompany it everywhere. Tell someone a tornado may come and kill them. They dont need to be told a tornado WILL come and kill them and their family, destroy their life, etc etc, and then offer the only solution is through whatever.

I dont know, maybe i am not conveying my message correctly...all one can do is pass the message on, encourage preparation, and then move on.

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I understand.
But WHO knows the real facts about what is happening on the border?
The main stream news media isn't telling it.
It is many Americans raising the alarm about what is happening, not some political demogogue. It is the people in Murietta, CA protesting the border being thrown wide open. It is people in Texas, on the border with Mexico. The ones who see it everyday.
If no one listens, so be it.
People have a tendency to kill the messenger when he brings bad news.
People don't want their lives disturbed.
I'm tired of talking to the wall anyway.

7/15/2014 4:46:22 PM EDT
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All any entity can do is encourage preparedness....always remember, you can bring a horse to water, but you cannot force him to drink.
7/15/2014 4:49:08 PM EDT
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I don't think its so much that we wish to kill the messenger

Perhaps its how your conveying the message

Perhaps others here are doing their own research and forming their own opinions

While Im glad to see people take a stand, I also think the message needs to be clear and understandable.

I get that you're trying to raise awareness, all BS aside, I applaud you for it. As we have seen here, in this forum, day in and day out... People will take it how they are going to take it. They may agree, they may disagree. Perhaps some don't care and some may/will argue. I wouldn't take it personal.

Course, some of us are simply trying to get on with our daily lives. I fall in that category but make the attempt to stay informed.
7/15/2014 5:07:55 PM EDT
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I can prepare for the looters. I can even even prepare for troops disarming America.
I CAN'T PREPARE for massive death from pandemics.
Should I buy a backhoe and semis full of lime?
It takes large groups to do that.
Better yet, it takes numbers to stop it from happening.
Those numbers certainly aren't here.
7/16/2014 6:32:10 PM EDT
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No need for all that...just stock up on kerosene...burn 'em.