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5/31/2014 5:54:40 PM EDT
Anyone care to defend our governor?  I don't know about you guys but I'm thinking it's time for her to be voted out. What do you guys think.
5/31/2014 6:31:42 PM EDT
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She's kind of a ditz; what has she done now?
5/31/2014 6:45:56 PM EDT
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I will not tolerate her temper tantrums on the next vote.  

As far as I'm concerned she is out of there.
5/31/2014 7:10:20 PM EDT
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Nothing to hack me off today, but I haven't watched the news today though.
I just wanted to get the feeling of the htf of her.  I couldn't be more disappointed myself. Whether she's makeing it a life sentence crime to make hash or vetoing another gun bill she doesn't seem to be right or left just kinda goes how she thinks the winds blowing.

Damn shame the first woman governor is such a dud. She must have advisors that are just as dumb as she seems to be.
5/31/2014 7:15:30 PM EDT
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I never liked her before or after she became the golden girl of Oklahoma gun folks when she passed signed open carry.  She's your typical wealthy, snooty ***** with a "I demand you treat me like royalty" attitude.  She's showed her nature for all to see and it'll be the end of her career I hope.
6/1/2014 8:21:38 PM EDT
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I will definitely be voting against her in the primary. There is, however zero chance of voting for a D.
6/1/2014 8:53:54 PM EDT
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Oklahoma democrats are generally more republican than republicans from the north...for it would depend on their views more than the party designation at the end of their name.
6/3/2014 9:49:52 AM EDT
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Primaries are the 24th, be sure to vote. I'm voting for Dax Ewbank. Chad Moody is also running against her, but he seems to be purely in it for the pot. I'm all for decriminalizing pot, but Ewbank seem to be the better rounded candidate.
6/3/2014 9:52:00 AM EDT
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In my personal opinion, affiliation means a lot. If someone has a D by their name that means they affiliate with the mainstream left. An R by their name means they affiliate with the mainstream right. Simple decision.
6/3/2014 9:52:34 AM EDT
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Primaries are the 24th, be sure to vote. I'm voting for Dax Ewbank. Chad Moody is also running against her, but he seems to be purely in it for the pot. I'm all for decriminalizing pot, but Ewbank seem to be the better rounded candidate.
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I'm voting for Ewbank as well.
6/3/2014 12:49:50 PM EDT
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I don't agree at all, there are plenty of a$$hats with R's behind their names that don't need to be anywhere near politics.  If there's an a$$hat republican running against a democrat that's pro-2A, voting for the a$$hat just because he's a republican is why our country is jacked up. If people elected the man/woman based on their beliefs and platform instead of the party designation we would get rid of the nutballs on the left and the self serving dB's on the right and get folks in there who work for the people instead of themselves, but hey, I'm an independent because neither side impresses me consistently.  My only absolute is if you mess with constitution or pass policy that is designed to make the rich richer instead of the rest of the population richer, you are out..do not pass go or collect $200...you are a POS regardless of party affiliation.
6/3/2014 2:16:54 PM EDT
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I don't usully agree with Brandi, but she pretty much nailed it.
Fallin is in it for big business.
She has messed up the work comp for sure.
She won't get my vote.
6/3/2014 2:34:39 PM EDT
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True to an extent, but most voted for Obama!  I would never support, trust, or think nicely about anyone who would support that criminal!
6/3/2014 4:24:59 PM EDT
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True to an extent, but most voted for Obama!  I would never support, trust, or think nicely about anyone who would support that criminal!
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True to an extent, but most voted for Obama!  I would never support, trust, or think nicely about anyone who would support that criminal!

This. Registering D is signing on with that P.O.S., Princess Pelosi, Dingy Harry and the likes. While there are shitheads in the right like Mitch McConnell, Bonerhead, McCain, Grahamnesty and everyone getting on progressive bandwagons, they still oppose liberals in  some key issues that are cornerstones in my ideology. While we don't always agree, there isn't a single thing I agree with that a D says. I hope these who I've mentioned are primary'd out of the Senate and H.O.R. and more conservative candidates step into their place.

Primaries are where the true fight is but most people don't realize it.
6/3/2014 6:45:01 PM EDT
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Dax Ewbank is getting my vote. It's time for the queen to get out.
6/4/2014 5:11:30 AM EDT
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I don't agree at all, there are plenty of a$$hats with R's behind their names that don't need to be anywhere near politics.  If there's an a$$hat republican running against a democrat that's pro-2A, voting for the a$$hat just because he's a republican is why our country is jacked up. If people elected the man/woman based on their beliefs and platform instead of the party designation we would get rid of the nutballs on the left and the self serving dB's on the right and get folks in there who work for the people instead of themselves, but hey, I'm an independent because neither side impresses me consistently.  My only absolute is if you mess with constitution or pass policy that is designed to make the rich richer instead of the rest of the population richer, you are out..do not pass go or collect $200...you are a POS regardless of party affiliation.
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It is not the government's job to make ANYONE richer.
6/4/2014 3:41:05 PM EDT
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I would agree with you so why has the GOP consistently passed law after law after law after law that benefits major corporations bottom line? Keep in mind that in many of the cases, the companies benefiting are pharmaceutical, oil and gas production, energy related companies and etc, that these politicians previously sat as CEO, CFO and governing board members who hold/held large quantities of stock.  You could argue that in many cases the offending politician chose to abstain from the voting but, let's be honest here, abstaining while lobbying fellow lawmakers to pass the bill is hardly separating yourself from the process.  Nor is signing stock over to a wife or other family member during their service to avoid a conflict of interest.  These practices have been so common in Washington, primarily by the GOP but certainly not excluding the democrats who also use these tactics, that nobody even pays any attention anymore.

When it became a hot button issue during the BushII administration, they literally said, yes, it's true, we have passed many laws that benefits these corporations, some of who many of us have been affiliated with prior to taking political office and, yes, there are cases where "by no intention" that these changes have benefited some members of this administration but the point is not to make these company executives wealthier but to make their companies more successful.  More success at the top causes a "trickle down effect" (that's the exact phrase) that makes everyone below more successful.  Uh huh...and what happened? The economy exploded while all these companies went bottom up, millions of jobs lost, CEO's/CFO's and board members continued to receive bonuses that were higher than they ever were and when company death was imminent, these corporate guys all skated out with their "golden parachute" packages setting them for life.  All while creating one of the worst mass job losses in American history!

As some national news host said after all this had decimated the economy "they said it would all trickle down and it did, it just wasn't anything American's wanted".  Sure they cherry picked a few corporate execs and sent them to "white collar prison" and ordered them to pay fines but these couldn't pay anything with their assests frozen and no income so, of course, nothing came of that, as expected.  I, personally, lost almost my entire retirement account, going from $350,000 to under $75,000 in a matter of two months as these companies all bailed and it continued down for the next couple years.  Every bit of this was long before the election when Obama took over so there's nobody to blame but the GOP and their "help a buddy out programs".  I can't count the number of friends and family who lost their jobs during the last BushII era, good people who, like myself, were dyed in the wool republicans.  They lost their homes, many times it was too much and the divorce rate skyrocketed, families lost everything they had worked their entire lives to build up, cars, homes, boats, savings, retirement accounts.  I knew guys with 3-4 kids who lost their homes and ended up living day to day in cheap motel rooms.  Everyone seems to have forgotten just how bad the GOP screwed this nation.  

I don't support Obama, but I won't ever forget how bad our last republican administration battered our economy.   I will vote Republican this coming election but only because the democrats have focused on attacking our constitution and our 2A rights.  If the next administration (republican) repeats their last performance of cronyism and self service, we may see this all over again.  So I don't need a lecture on what our government should be doing or not be doing for America, this entire nation (those who were adults with jobs at the time) experienced what happens when an administration's policy is to make major corporations and companies wealthier so that all that good stuff trickles on down to the rest of us.  As was said at the time, it trickled down alright but it sure wasn't wealth or prosperity.
6/4/2014 3:53:57 PM EDT
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Anyone see the latest by Mary Failin? She's gone from the woman who drew national rage for saying that it's not up to the state to get involved with the school shelter issue and that the money being discussed for use was earmarked to be used for encouraging outside businesses to come to Oklahoma.  She went on to say that school shelters are the responsibility of the individual school and not the state.  Well, after a very angry nation turned their spotlights on her position in this issue, she's now done a complete 180 and is pleading the legislature to work towards getting shelters in schools.

Amazing how a little public attention can make a politician squirm into doing the complete opposite.  If there was no other reason to vote her away, the fact that she bowed up and told the state's citizens that it was important to fund ways to lure businesses to the state than to fund storm shelters in our schools, should be enough to make every parent and child in this state vomit.  Her new stance on the subject should, in no way, confuse citizens into thinking she supports this project because, as we all know, she was forced to do it.
6/4/2014 4:17:17 PM EDT
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I would agree with you so why has the GOP consistently passed law after law after law after law that benefits major corporations bottom line? Keep in mind that in many of the cases, the companies benefiting are pharmaceutical, oil and gas production, energy related companies and etc, that these politicians previously sat as CEO, CFO and governing board members who hold/held large quantities of stock.  You could argue that in many cases the offending politician chose to abstain from the voting but, let's be honest here, abstaining while lobbying fellow lawmakers to pass the bill is hardly separating yourself from the process.  Nor is signing stock over to a wife or other family member during their service to avoid a conflict of interest.  These practices have been so common in Washington, primarily by the GOP but certainly not excluding the democrats who also use these tactics, that nobody even pays any attention anymore.

When it became a hot button issue during the BushII administration, they literally said, yes, it's true, we have passed many laws that benefits these corporations, some of who many of us have been affiliated with prior to taking political office and, yes, there are cases where "by no intention" that these changes have benefited some members of this administration but the point is not to make these company executives wealthier but to make their companies more successful.  More success at the top causes a "trickle down effect" (that's the exact phrase) that makes everyone below more successful.  Uh huh...and what happened? The economy exploded while all these companies went bottom up, millions of jobs lost, CEO's/CFO's and board members continued to receive bonuses that were higher than they ever were and when company death was imminent, these corporate guys all skated out with their "golden parachute" packages setting them for life.  All while creating one of the worst mass job losses in American history!

As some national news host said after all this had decimated the economy "they said it would all trickle down and it did, it just wasn't anything American's wanted".  Sure they cherry picked a few corporate execs and sent them to "white collar prison" and ordered them to pay fines but these couldn't pay anything with their assests frozen and no income so, of course, nothing came of that, as expected.  I, personally, lost almost my entire retirement account, going from $350,000 to under $75,000 in a matter of two months as these companies all bailed and it continued down for the next couple years.  Every bit of this was long before the election when Obama took over so there's nobody to blame but the GOP and their "help a buddy out programs".  I can't count the number of friends and family who lost their jobs during the last BushII era, good people who, like myself, were dyed in the wool republicans.  They lost their homes, many times it was too much and the divorce rate skyrocketed, families lost everything they had worked their entire lives to build up, cars, homes, boats, savings, retirement accounts.  I knew guys with 3-4 kids who lost their homes and ended up living day to day in cheap motel rooms.  Everyone seems to have forgotten just how bad the GOP screwed this nation.  

I don't support Obama, but I won't ever forget how bad our last republican administration battered our economy.   I will vote Republican this coming election but only because the democrats have focused on attacking our constitution and our 2A rights.  If the next administration (republican) repeats their last performance of cronyism and self service, we may see this all over again. So I don't need a lecture on what our government should be doing or not be doing for America, this entire nation (those who were adults with jobs at the time) experienced what happens when an administration's policy is to make major corporations and companies wealthier so that all that good stuff trickles on down to the rest of us.  As was said at the time, it trickled down alright but it sure wasn't wealth or prosperity.
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Who was trying to lecture you? I simply stated "It is not the government's job to make ANYONE richer", that is all. It is not the R's job to make the rich richer nor is it the D's job to make the poor rich. I would just as soon BOTH sides stay out my life and out of my wallet.