Posted: 8/1/2012 4:53:27 PM EDT
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This morning, like many mornings, I went to my local 7-Eleven for coffee. I noticed for the first time a new "No Concealed Carry" sign on each door. I asked when they put that up. They began to babble about something and I pulled out a "No Guns = No $$" business card and said, "Please give this to your manager." Here is a strategy we can do for the OKC Metro (or anywhere else these have now been popping up at). First, get some simple No Guns = No $$ cards made up on your computer and make some simple business cards. Second, give them to the area 7-Elevens. THese should not all look alike, etc. They should come from each of us as American citizens. Third, we need to find out who the largest franchise chain owners are and write to them expressing how disappointed we are that criminals will now have easy marks in convenience stores and that innocent Americans will not be allowed to defend themselves. Consequently, we will not put our lives in the hands of cashier clerks but will rather shop elsewhere. This is not some exercise in futility. We beat back a similar 7-Eleven attempt locally two years ago and the signs came down. Have we gone mad as a nation that now we cannot even own a chicken business and express common public and religious views without such bullying and now we see not only the First Amendment under constant harassment but also the Second. Do nothing and lose them all. Steve |
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This is not some exercise in futility. We beat back a similar 7-Eleven attempt locally two years ago and the signs came down. Have we gone mad as a nation that now we cannot even own a chicken business and express common public and religious views without such bullying and now we see not only the First Amendment under constant harassment but also the Second. Do nothing and lose them all. Steve It is interesting that the people that try to champion the "acceptance cause" and are usually of one particular party are all about accepting everyone with individual beliefs or opinions until that belief or opinion goes against what they think or believe or feel. How quickly they turn into the party of hate, whinning, crying and non-acceptance. Makes them look like a big bunch of condescending jackasses. The way I look at it is: their business, their ideas, and their beliefs. If I do not like what they stand for, think, or believe, then it is my decision whether or not I continue to financially support them. This whole they must change their opinion or be forced out of business is total bull _ _ _ _ !!!! I will have to stop by the 7-11 right up the street. If they have signs I will let them know about it and check the gas station to the south. They will get all my need a coke or candy bar business from now on if they don't have the signs posted. |
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The last sign I noticed at a 7-11 was a sticker featuring a red circle around an outline of a Kel-Tec, and a red line over the pistol. I took at as no Kel-Tec's allowed in the store.
I tried talking to a "higher upper" type for City Bites a few years ago about their no firearms policy, and the guy I talked to was a gun guy. He said something to the effect of "I can't tell you what to do, but I carry when I go in our restaurants." |
| That's messed up, 7-11's are some of the scariest places in the state. I wouldn't want to go in one unarmed, no doubt the thugs hanging around the place are. As for the other store I think things have gotten ridiculous on both sides, they have the right to say or believe whatever they want. I choose not to support their business but since that's my own long standing policy and I've never eaten there to begin with I doubt it will bother them too much. |
| That sucks because the 7-11 on 15th in Midwest City is(was) my favorite place to fill my tank when I go through there. If I do indeed see one of those signs I will go down the street to the next place. I like the business card idea. I'll make some and stick them in my wallet/truck. |
| Best fuel station around the OKC area is Clark Oil. NW corner of Sunnylane and I-240 service road (kinda between Tinker and Mt Trashmore). Open to the public. M-F 6am-5:30pm. Sat 6am-noon. (Might be 7am-noon, not positive on that.) They are also in Sapulpa, not sure where though. |
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FWIW 7-11 does not sell condoms, lottery items, or pornographic magazines in their stores due to the owners being very stout Catholics. They may be misguided about concealed carry, but they do try to live their religious convictions. 2 out of 3 of those are sold down here |
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FWIW 7-11 does not sell condoms, lottery items, or pornographic magazines in their stores due to the owners being very stout Catholics. They may be misguided about concealed carry, but they do try to live their religious convictions. I've bought california lottery tickets at 7-11s back when I lived in california. Could swear I've seen condoms for sale at various 7-11s, even nudie mags. |
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FWIW 7-11 does not sell condoms, lottery items, or pornographic magazines in their stores due to the owners being very stout Catholics. They may be misguided about concealed carry, but they do try to live their religious convictions. I've bought california lottery tickets at 7-11s back when I lived in california. Could swear I've seen condoms for sale at various 7-11s, even nudie mags. Check the stores here in central OK for lottery tickets, condoms, or porn magazines. They aren't there. |
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FWIW 7-11 does not sell condoms, lottery items, or pornographic magazines in their stores due to the owners being very stout Catholics. They may be misguided about concealed carry, but they do try to live their religious convictions. I've bought california lottery tickets at 7-11s back when I lived in california. Could swear I've seen condoms for sale at various 7-11s, even nudie mags. Check the stores here in central OK for lottery tickets, condoms, or porn magazines. They aren't there. the dude that owns the stores in the okc metro has the main office around sw25 and council iirc; I think he owns something like 50 stores. |
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What part of concealed do people not understand? Ever try to pay for something with cash at 7-11, it is like an act of Congress to get change or deal with all the Access Card holders getting in the way.
As to the Chicken thing, that is the owner's belief and like Brandi I don't care for the food so I skip it. Knowing people who are of the same-sex relationships makes me look at both sides of this––I am not going to be judgmental because I have plenty to worry about my soul. |
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This is not some exercise in futility. We beat back a similar 7-Eleven attempt locally two years ago and the signs came down. Have we gone mad as a nation that now we cannot even own a chicken business and express common public and religious views without such bullying and now we see not only the First Amendment under constant harassment but also the Second. Do nothing and lose them all. Steve It is interesting that the people that try to champion the "acceptance cause" and are usually of one particular party are all about accepting everyone with individual beliefs or opinions until that belief or opinion goes against what they think or believe or feel. How quickly they turn into the party of hate, whinning, crying and non-acceptance. Makes them look like a big bunch of condescending jackasses. The way I look at it is: their business, their ideas, and their beliefs. If I do not like what they stand for, think, or believe, then it is my decision whether or not I continue to financially support them. This whole they must change their opinion or be forced out of business is total bull _ _ _ _ !!!! I will have to stop by the 7-11 right up the street. If they have signs I will let them know about it and check the gas station to the south. They will get all my need a coke or candy bar business from now on if they don't have the signs posted. Telling a business why you will no longer frequent it does not seem to be crossing a line to me. |
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What part of concealed do people not understand? Ever try to pay for something with cash at 7-11, it is like an act of Congress to get change or deal with all the Access Card holders getting in the way. As to the Chicken thing, that is the owner's belief and like Brandi I don't care for the food so I skip it. Knowing people who are of the same-sex relationships makes me look at both sides of this––I am not going to be judgmental because I have plenty to worry about my soul. Marriage is between a Man and a Woman .  .
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What part of concealed do people not understand? Ever try to pay for something with cash at 7-11, it is like an act of Congress to get change or deal with all the Access Card holders getting in the way. As to the Chicken thing, that is the owner's belief and like Brandi I don't care for the food so I skip it. Knowing people who are of the same-sex relationships makes me look at both sides of this––I am not going to be judgmental because I have plenty to worry about my soul. Marriage is between a Man and a Woman . ..between a man and a woman doesn't mean anything to Rat. He's more into man and man. Patrickcudd in particular.... 
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Every 7-11 in OKC is owned by one family, the Brown. They are about 110 stores in total. They have no relationship with other 7-11 outside OK, it’s two separate company. You can still conceal carry, but not open carry. Oklahoma 7-11 employed 700 Oklahoman, the only people hurting from any boycott would be the low ranking employees. The top guys would be unaffected.
I disagree with they gun policy. By having a little sticker on the front door won’t keep the bad guys out. |
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How do we contact this Brown? They are a very liberal Catholic family and it would be difficult to change their minds on anything. I'm not sure if this is the the contact information but you can try it. 7 Eleven Corporate Offices 7928 N May Ave Oklahoma City, OK 73120 405-848-7326 7 Eleven Stores - General Office 2021 S MacArthur Blvd Oklahoma City, OK 73128 (405) 682-5711 |
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The Okla Co. Tax Assesors page says the 2021 S MacArthur address is the one.
Okay, here's the Corporate web site (hey, it rolls downhill, right?) http://corp.7-eleven.com/ContactUs/tabid/184/Default.aspx well. here's what Wiki has to say, so maybe Corporate's out, as they're (OKC's) independent. The only independently owned 7-Eleven stores are located in the Oklahoma City, Oklahoma metropolitan area. About 125 stores are owned by the family of William C. Brown (currently run by son Jim Brown) under special arrangement with the company since 1953. William C. Brown's father was a business associate and family friend of John Thompson. "Bill" had recently graduated from the University of Notre Dame and struck out on a quest to find an area "ripe" for the concept. During his travels he met the Tulsa based QuikTrip chain owner who suggested Oklahoma City to Brown. Narrowing down the choices he decided upon Oklahoma and opened store No.1 at NW 23rd & N. Portland Avenue in Oklahoma City.[citation needed] At their inception the Thompson family were part owners of the Oklahoma City 7-Eleven stores but never the Corporation. Brown would work a shift at the original store and afterwards would scout new locations to build. The "Oh Thank Heaven for 7-Eleven" phrase was coined by the Stanford Agency the in-house ad agency for 7-Eleven (1954–1981) in 1969. These stores carry a slightly different product selection than other 7-Eleven stores in the United States. as they do not serve hot dogs or nachos. Instead, they have their own bakeries, called Seventh Heaven.[36] Also, due to this agreement, they carry a non-7-Eleven branded product in lieu of the Slurpee, the Icy Drink, which is not to be confused with the ICEE.[37] The one side effect to this arrangement is that national advertising campaigns and promotions (e.g. movie marketing tie-ins) cannot be used. |
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Telling a business why you will no longer frequent it does not seem to be crossing a line to me. Never said it wasn't and even said I would be stopping by the local 7-11 to see if they have signs posted. If they do, I even said I would go the other local gas station as long as that one didn't have signs posted. My main point was you wouldn't be seeing me throw hate rhetoric towards the person and trying to force them out of business because their views are not similar to mine. I am not that naive to realize that people have differings views and that capitalism allows them to conduct business how they see fit. If they do not offer products or services in a manner that attracts customers then they will either adjust or go out of business. If a business I was patronizing came out with their views and they didn't match mine I would simply either stop spending money at their business or tell them why I would not be spending anymore money there and find a new place to spend it. Not sure how you got what you did out of my post since I obviously said I would not spend money at 7-11 if they posted. |
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Telling a business why you will no longer frequent it does not seem to be crossing a line to me. Never said it wasn't and even said I would be stopping by the local 7-11 to see if they have signs posted. If they do, I even said I would go the other local gas station as long as that one didn't have signs posted. My main point was you wouldn't be seeing me throw hate rhetoric towards the person and trying to force them out of business because their views are not similar to mine. I am not that naive to realize that people have differings views and that capitalism allows them to conduct business how they see fit. If they do not offer products or services in a manner that attracts customers then they will either adjust or go out of business. If a business I was patronizing came out with their views and they didn't match mine I would simply either stop spending money at their business or tell them why I would not be spending anymore money there and find a new place to spend it. Not sure how you got what you did out of my post since I obviously said I would not spend money at 7-11 if they posted. I read the first paragraph you wrote in the context of what Steve was saying about losing out rights and that we should speak up... not the chicken thing. I apologize for misunderstanding your post. It is obvious we are on the same page. |
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I read the first paragraph you wrote in the context of what Steve was saying about losing out rights and that we should speak up... not the chicken thing. I apologize for misunderstanding your post. It is obvious we are on the same page. Gotcha!! The first part was just on the hypocritical nature of people pushing for acceptance of everyone even when they are not willing to accept that others have different viewpoints, especially when looking at the Chik-fil-a fiasco. |
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What part of concealed do people not understand? Ever try to pay for something with cash at 7-11, it is like an act of Congress to get change or deal with all the Access Card holders getting in the way. As to the Chicken thing, that is the owner's belief and like Brandi I don't care for the food so I skip it. Knowing people who are of the same-sex relationships makes me look at both sides of this––I am not going to be judgmental because I have plenty to worry about my soul. Marriage is between a Man and a Woman . .I totally agree, but I am not going to tell my family that I believe that they are going to go to Hell for a couple reasons: I have plenty of things to ask forgiveness for and my WIFE would probably divorce me if I told them they were going to Hell. |
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with the wildly different prices in gas,(i routinely go by my "cheap" station and it might be 10 cents a gallon( !! )cheaper than others, same co, same day ) between various 7-11's i wonder if the local stores aren't franchised from this Brown family, not from the Southland Corporation?
125 stores owned by one company would be a tall order to manage. if they are franchised, that would give each store in the franchise some leeway as to their policies, unless of course the word came down from the top. the Okla Co. Tax Assessors webpage shows the mailing address for all of them to be the S MacArthur site, though. http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/NameSearch.asp |
I view those signs with a red slash through a gun as they don't sell guns there. Concealed means concealed.
If you are going to boycott but don't tell the owners why you are boycotting, it is a silent protest and means nothing. And if enough people don't boycott to affect their revenues, it is also meaningless. |
| The 711 nearest me (89th and May) has one of these signs, but you'd never notice it unless you're looking at your feet. It's placed on the bottom of the glass door, just above the frame. I mentioned the positioning to the clerk, and he said "thats where I was told to put it". Odd placement for any regulatory sign, IMHO. |
| My work lets me walk around with machine guns, ain't worried there. And while I have no choice but to follow the letter of the law when it comes to schools, court houses, and the like, I do have a choice where my spending money goes. But, I suppose you might be the type that just bitches about situations that you can't immediately control instead of taking steps to try and change them. |