Posted: 3/15/2011 7:05:48 PM EDT
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removing a separated case.
was shooting my hornet this evening and damned if one didn't have a case head separation, have tried running an oversized brass brush through it but it didn't budge the stuck case body. haven't ever seen a broken shell extractor for a hornet; but I'll buy one if anyone knows of one made. |
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take a big bore brush..like a .30 caliber rifle or such size as you can jam in the Hornet chamber....then stuff it in the chamber far and tight....go through the muzzle with a cleaning rod and drive it out..hopefully with the case body stuck on it.  already tried that all the way up to a .45cal brush, it didn't even budge 
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Take a long-fine threaded brass screw that will fit the Hornet case mouth....screw it in..vise-grip it out.
This or start shopping for a case extractor. Maybe put a little butane torch heat up the chamber..and try the brush thing again. This on the theory that maybe it will expand loose. Next option..gunshow this weekend...trade it for a Ruger 10/22 
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Take a long-fine threaded brass screw that will fit the Hornet case mouth....screw it in..vise-grip it out. This or start shopping for a case extractor. was thinking about an bolt extractor today, never though about trying a screw though. did try a dental pick this morning, but it wasn't long enough to fit through the action into the chamber .
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Take a long-fine threaded brass screw that will fit the Hornet case mouth....screw it in..vise-grip it out. This or start shopping for a case extractor. Maybe put a little butane torch heat up the chamber..and try the brush thing again. This on the theory that maybe it will expand loose. Next option..gunshow this weekend...trade it for a Ruger 10/22 I already have a 10/22, got a 38spl too for when tshtf 
although if it's barrel attached like a 10/22's it'd be a lot easier getting the case out. |
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I've taken a brass rod of near the same diameter and put it in the freezer for a while, then put the rod in the broken case and let it exchange heat a few minutes and the case falls out. Haven't tried this in a gun, but it works in a loading die. that sounds like the plan. |
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Sprinkle pixie dust on it...
Case still stuck? hell if I had pixie dust I'd snort it and go find a desparate and horny chick. yeah, the case is still stuck, drenched it down with kroil again, if it don't pop free tomorrow I guess it'll go to the smith, but it'll have to hold going to the smith till I get the everyday bills paid and I get my fun fund replentished. |
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I've been looking for a Ruger #3 in 22 Hornet for a long time. I would like to open it up to the 223.
I have a Ruger #3 in 45/70 (200th Year American Liberty) that I am real fond of. I don't have any experience with the Hornet. It really doesn't excite me other than I'd love to have one in the #3 though. Old Bud thought it was one hell of a round though. Someone he knew a long time ago used it for turkeys and coons. |
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From my experience with .22 Hornet(in father's Savage 340) it's accurate as can be...but factory ammo was the shits to find..and the reloads he turned out had extraction issues,,The rifle itself maybe a factor in the extraction problems.
I can recall at more than a few separated cases...which I used the big brush jammed in chamber trick to remove. Part of my fathers probs with separated cases was that he reloaded cases until they shit-out...sometimes the 'shit-out' was a separated case. He reloaded .300 Savage, .222, .22 Hornet, .243 for me. I've seen busted cases in all the calibers except .243...Pops insisting all brass was good until it cratered!.. ..I avoided issues with .243 brass by chunking it once in awhile.
But seriously...seemed as if the .22 Hornet could come in half with just a reloading or two.. 
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Must be something about .22 Hornets that cause sticky cases and promotes separated cases....My father's .22 hornet would do this shit on occasion. He ditched the caliber and went up to .222... I neck size all my hornet brass, I think the casehead separation issue has more to do with really thin cases, this case that separated was on it's 5 loading but it looked good when I loaded it, I knew better as from experience the remington hornet brass usually developes cracks on the body and/or split necks and loose primer pockets at about 3 or 4 loadings. winchester hornet brass is a bit better, it's thin too but I normally get 6 to 8 loads with it before it developes a crack on the body/neck, never had one loosen the primer pocket. |
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I've been looking for a Ruger #3 in 22 Hornet for a long time. I would like to open it up to the 223. I have a Ruger #3 in 45/70 (200th Year American Liberty) that I am real fond of. I don't have any experience with the Hornet. It really doesn't excite me other than I'd love to have one in the #3 though. Old Bud thought it was one hell of a round though. Someone he knew a long time ago used it for turkeys and coons. I've got a couple of them and they're great small game performers, they're really overbore for squirrels and such, but they'll knock them from trees with authority, head shots are the norm as they'll take the head completely off with a decent hollowpoint; hell the bullet will damn near completely disentagrate. the eskimos thought pretty highly of the hornet too, read once where they shot game from seals/walarus up to including moose with hornets. |
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From my experience with .22 Hornet(in father's Savage 340) it's accurate as can be...but factory ammo was the shits to find..and the reloads he turned out had extraction issues,,The rifle itself maybe a factor in the extraction problems. I can recall at more than a few separated cases...which I used the big brush jammed in chamber trick to remove. Part of my fathers probs with separated cases was that he reloaded cases until they shit-out...sometimes the 'shit-out' was a separated case. He reloaded .300 Savage, .222, .22 Hornet, .243 for me. I've seen busted cases in all the calibers except .243...Pops insisting all brass was good until it cratered!.. ..I avoided issues with .243 brass by chunking it once in awhile.
But seriously...seemed as if the .22 Hornet could come in half with just a reloading or two.. the is the second time I've had a complete separation in my hornet, first time though the case popped right out when I ran a cleaning rod/jag through it, this time it's being difficult. only seems to happen in the ruger too, my single shot doesn't have any issues. |
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Frozen rod and blow torch on barrel.
Ie dont go overboard. Your not trying to heat treat it now. Just heat it up a little bit. Heat the chamber up from the outside. Try to be uniform about it. At the same time chill the brass with frozen rod sections. Use sections that either have knurled jags on the end to help grab the brass while slowly twisting until the case breaks free. It may take a few min to accomplish but it will come out. So long as the steel is hotter than the brass you should be good to go. Remember to twist it to break it free and not pull only. Air compressors can be handy as well in a pinch. You are looking for a tight friction fit on the rod and or jag. Not a pound it in friction fit. That may only make matters worse. There is a show this weekend. You could always bring it along and let Dan mess with it at the table. May help to keep him from scaring off the buyers.
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There is a show this weekend. You could always bring it along and let Dan mess with it at the table. May help to keep him from scaring off the buyers. I have all the faith in Nden that he'll get it out. If worse comes to worst, he can always stick it up where the sun doesn't shine and blow it out.
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