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7/3/2008 7:01:36 AM EDT
I was having trouble with ftf's with Federal low brass with my Saiga 12 and I did some tweeking to part of the barrel that is ramped for the extractor to ride over which had a really sharp edge.  Basically I rounded it/broke the edge.  I was also occasionally having stovepipes with the same ammo so I recontoured the hammer to provide less resistance to the bolt carrier.  I really didn't want to open the gas ports.  I fired 50 federal low brass 1oz load shells through it via rapid fire, and I held it as limply as possible for a 10rd mag with zero failures.  I may be kinda anal as it always worked fine with winchester and remington low brass.

There's nothing as gratifying as fixing a reliability problem with a gun yourself.
7/3/2008 9:54:34 AM EDT
[#1]
What gun???
7/3/2008 11:38:07 AM EDT
[#2]
It sounds like his Saiga shotgun.
7/3/2008 11:42:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Yea I meant to say it was for my Saiga.  Sorry.
7/3/2008 12:26:04 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Yea I meant to say it was for my Saiga.  Sorry.


You've got to spell it out for those old peckerwoods like Chuck.
7/3/2008 12:56:13 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Yea I meant to say it was for my Saiga.  Sorry.


You've got to spell it out for those old peckerwoods like Chuck.


and those ancient guys like Dan
7/3/2008 1:58:17 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Yea I meant to say it was for my Saiga.  Sorry.


You've got to spell it out for those old peckerwoods like Chuck.


and those ancient guys like Dan

Yeah, but this "ancient guy" figured out what he was talking about.

ETA - Good for you for fixing it.
9/6/2008 8:10:51 PM EDT
[#7]

 

Ok I was wrong.  I works with federal and remington low brass now 100%.  I tried winchester universal (bulk pack) at Lexington last week and today.  I don't think it has quite as much powder because the bolt almost feels like it cycles slower with the winchester bulk shells and every now and then it FTF's.  I really wanted to avoid opening the gas ports but I guess I'm going to do it now.  It'll drive me insane until I get it running with the 3 low brass brands Wally World carries.
9/6/2008 8:19:16 PM EDT
[#8]
I don't know that I would mess with it. Some guns are just ammo finicky. I have a Sig Mosquito and a Walther P-22 that won't function with anything but the hottest .22s.
9/7/2008 1:21:03 PM EDT
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I don't know that I would mess with it. Some guns are just ammo finicky. I have a Sig Mosquito and a Walther P-22 that won't function with anything but the hottest .22s.



The P22 I have shoots any .22 I run through it, the thing never has given me a problem.
9/13/2008 12:31:49 PM EDT
[#10]
I finally figured the issue out.  The winchester shells would always catch the lip at the top of the barrel where the rim of shells rests against when chambered.  I have a friend with a Saiga as well so I took mine over to his place today to compare ours.  On his barrel there is a very defined feed ramp vs mine looks almost non-existent.  Basically some brands of shells would hit that area where there should be a ramp on mine and end up getting popped up at a high angle into the barrel.  So as much as I cringe doing modifications that can't be reversed really we used a cutting disk as it was about the perfect diameter to make a nice feed ramp.  I only cringed because there really is no replacing the barrel for a Saiga.    

Long story short it works great with all 3 bulk pack brands from Wally World.  I did a bunch of 10rd mag dumps without a hitch.  They were even ejecting farther now because whenever they would hit that lip area at the top of the barrel I was talking about before the shells would slightly deform making them tighter in the chamber.

I know nobody cares probably but I am just proud to have gotten the thing working right.
9/13/2008 12:38:28 PM EDT
[#11]
The real reason I wanted to get this running 100% right now is I should have 2 MD-20 20rd drums in the next couple of weeks since he finally started shipping.