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6/27/2005 12:32:51 AM EDT
Just got my packet in the mail, anybody know the correct address for Tulsa County Sheriff? I have to mail them a copy and the info I have from the website is this:

www.tcso.org/

Contact Information
The Sheriff's Office currently has two locations:

Courthouse
500 S. Denver    
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103
918-596-5601  
Fax: 918-596-5697

Faulkner Bldg.
303 W 1st
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103
918-596-5701    

Anyone know which one I should use?

Thanks guys!

Dan              
6/27/2005 10:05:19 AM EDT
[#1]
Sheesh, called the Sheriff's office, and they had no idea what a C&R license was, and seemed like he had no clue what I was talking about,  and asked me who gave me the form.

He also said "Well, I don't know what we would even do with it (the copy of the application)"

So I had to inform him that it was just a copy for them to keep on file, per federal regs.

He did put the idea that the Chief Law Enforcement Officer may be be the Broken Arrow Chief of Police, and not the Tulsa County Sheriff.

Our government at work. Time to call the ATF I suppose.
6/27/2005 10:27:12 AM EDT
[#2]
I have heard that since the last undersheriff died they will not be doing anymore of them. I was talking to one of the older Deputies the other day and they said that they were inendated with rookies cause of the jail. I saw in the newspaper that the undesheriff is running the new jail so I am sure that they are quite busy. It might not look good for a few months either way.

A chief of police is pretty low actually on the list of law enforcement. The State constituion say the Sheriff is the Chief law enforcement officer of the county and are state constitutional officers. I went to a school a few years back (taught by the OSBI if I remember right) and was amazed how much authoritya sheriff has. Of Course the district attorneys still claim they are the highest le in the county...so go figure.  I dont think Broken Arrow would sign off on them anyway. Their last chief was anti gun and anti police really. Todd took over and has done a lot of good for their troops but I dont know his stand on guns.
6/27/2005 12:11:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the info OKLA-LAWMAN.


I called the ATF office in Tulsa, who gave me the number to the office in OKC, and the person I talked to said that I could send it to eother the BA Chief of Police or the Tulsa County Sherrif.

So, I guess I'll go with my first instinct, and OKLA-LAWMAN's suggestion and send it to the Tulsa County Sheriff after all.
6/27/2005 2:11:17 PM EDT
[#4]

The State constituion say the Sheriff is the Chief law enforcement officer of the county and are state constitutional officers.
That's what we were taught also.
6/27/2005 6:24:37 PM EDT
[#5]
Might be true in the real world but for one thing - prosecutorial discretion. If the DA doesn't want to prosecute, the sheriif is spinning his wheels if he makes an arrest!
6/27/2005 7:20:38 PM EDT
[#6]
Correctomundo!
6/27/2005 11:16:36 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Might be true in the real world but for one thing - prosecutorial discretion. If the DA doesn't want to prosecute, the sheriif is spinning his wheels if he makes an arrest!



That is not always the case. I know for example a sheriff can request the attorney general to act inder certain circumstances as the da. They are actually several provisions for Da's that wont file charges. For example under the state game code the Director of the game rangers may act in place of the District Attorney if the Da fails to act, The director acts with the same authority as the Da and the attorney general's office is required to assist.
6/27/2005 11:24:21 PM EDT
[#8]
The last Form 4 CLEO sign-off I got came from the Chief's Office.  Of course, my transfer hasn't yet gone through.  My previous Form 4 went through, but was signed by the Sheriff.  Don't know if there is a connection.
6/28/2005 10:35:37 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Might be true in the real world but for one thing - prosecutorial discretion. If the DA doesn't want to prosecute, the sheriif is spinning his wheels if he makes an arrest!



That is not always the case. I know for example a sheriff can request the attorney general to act inder certain circumstances as the da. They are actually several provisions for Da's that wont file charges. For example under the state game code the Director of the game rangers may act in place of the District Attorney if the Da fails to act, The director acts with the same authority as the Da and the attorney general's office is required to assist.



The investigators working at the AG's office are commissioned LEO's but are told NOT TO MAKE THE ARREST. They leave that up to the agency in that juridiction. The AG's office doesn't want any legal hassles resulting from an arrest.
Are you sure the sheriff or Director or whoever can get the AG to do anything? They might have the legal option to that, but that doesn't mean it will get done.
6/28/2005 11:05:33 PM EDT
[#10]
If you read the the wildlife statutes it is clearly in there. I used to have cites on a couple of actual cases back from my college days.