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5/28/2011 6:18:38 AM EDT
You done good!

I was going west on I-66 this morning just past Manassas and up-ahead I saw a Trooper with someone puuled over. I thought great, another Memorial Day weekend speed trap. Lo and Behold there was the Trooper down on his knees changing a tire for a older couple. Kudos to the young Trooper as I'm sure it was something he did not have to do.
5/28/2011 7:23:57 AM EDT
[#1]
Good man!
5/28/2011 6:16:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Usually the vdot service crews do that.
5/29/2011 2:03:02 AM EDT
[#3]
I'll give it to our Troopers.  Generally, you aren't going to walk away without a traffic citation from them, but they are among the best and most professional in the nation.  Things like what you described are common place with them, I believe.  Thought it was great when they gave traffic tickets to the New Jersey troopers who were racing up I-81 a few years ago.
5/29/2011 4:11:33 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I'll give it to our Troopers.  Generally, you aren't going to walk away without a traffic citation from them, but they are among the best and most professional in the nation.  Things like what you described are common place with them, I believe.  Thought it was great when they gave traffic tickets to the New Jersey troopers who were racing up I-81 a few years ago.


The guys who got the tickets on I-81 were Passaic County Deputy Sheriffs on their way home from working in the New Orleans area after Katrina. From what I understand, they had been stopped once before by Virginia troopers south of Roanoke and given warnings, but continued north on I-81 at speeds of 85-90 MPH.
I don't know what it is about LEOs from the northern NJ - NYC area. They seem to have the idea that they are immune from the laws that the rest of us have to obey.
5/29/2011 5:00:40 AM EDT
[#5]
I see cops flying around here a lot. Last Sunday I followed a Jefferson county deputy doing 15-20 over on rte 9 in Berkeley county and into Jefferson. No lights or siren. A few months ago I followed a Martinsburg cop home, he lives a block from me. He was doing 90+.
I also followed 3 Berkeley county deputies on 81 from M'burg to a diner for breakfast. They were doing 80+

This really pisses me off.
5/29/2011 5:48:46 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I'll give it to our Troopers.  Generally, you aren't going to walk away without a traffic citation from them, but they are among the best and most professional in the nation.  Things like what you described are common place with them, I believe.  Thought it was great when they gave traffic tickets to the New Jersey troopers who were racing up I-81 a few years ago.


IIRC va trooper let the jersey cops go with a warning and it was a county deputy that wrote them up.
5/29/2011 7:18:55 AM EDT
[#7]
Here's something I've had for a couple of years and no I am not the author nor do I know who wrote it... Cut/Pasted in its entirety please read the entire thing before commenting..



VIRGINIA STATE TROOPERS AND THEIR COURTESY TO FELLOW OFFICERS
>
>
>
>      TO THE SUPERVISORS AND STATE OFFICIALS OF THE BEAUTIFUL STATE OF
>VIRGINIA I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL GREETINGS AND ALSO TAKE THIS
>MOMENT TO ADDRESS A MATTER OF IMPORTANCE.
>      I AM A FELLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT WORKS FOR THE NEW YORK
>CITY HIGHWAY PATROL.  I AM ALSO A PROUD CITIZEN OF THIS THE GREATEST
>COUNTRY EVER, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.  MY CONCERNS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
>                     RECENTLY WE AS A NATION, HAD A TRAGIC AND CATASTROPHIC
>NATURAL DISASTER INVADE OUR HOMELAND AND CAUSE AS YET UNTOLD LOSSES OF LIFE
>AND DEVASTAING DAMAGE.  ESTIMATES ARE CURRENTLY IN THE LOW ONE THOUSAND TO
>AS YET UNDETERMINED NUMBER OF CASUALTIES.  PROPERTY DAMAGE AND
>UNRECOVERABLE PERSONAL ITEMS TOTAL NOW IN THE BILLION DOLLAR RANGE.
>HURRICANE KATRINA (NAME DESTINED FOR RETIREMENT) WAS UNDOUBTEDLY ONE OF THE
>WORST NATURAL DISASTERS TO HIT OUR NATION IN THE LAST CENTURY.  A NATION
>WATCHED AS CITIES SEEMINGLY WERE BEING WIPED OFF THE MAP AND NO SEMBLANCE
>OF WHAT ONCE WAS CONTINUED TO EXIST.  IN OUR DARKEST HOURS THE PROUDEST
>NATION ALONG WITH THE WORLD STARTED TO FORMULATE A RESPONSE AND ALTHOUGH
>SLOW AT FIRST AND SHOCKINGLY SO, THE RESPONSE EVENTUALLY CAME.
>      ONE OF THE RESPONSES CAME FROM A PLACE ALL TO FAMILIAR WITH TRAGEDIES
>AND GREAT LOSSES.  NEW YORK CITY!!!  PERHAPS THE ONE CITY VIEWED IN ALL OF
>THE WORLD AS THE CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.  A CONTIGENT OF APPROXIMATELY 172
>OFFICERS AND COUNTLESS CIVILAIN SUPPORT PERSONNEL WERE AMONG THE MOST
>MOTIVATED AND SELFLESS INDIVIDUALS WHO TOOK THE CHALLENGE OF LEAVING THE
>SAFETY AND COMFORTS OF HOME AND FAMILY TO ENDURE THE LONG TRIP TO HELP
>THOSE WHO WERE THE MOST AFFECTED BY HURRICANE KATRINA.  NOW FOR THE SAKE OF
>BREVITY I WILL COME TO THE POINT.
>      THE MATTER THAT MOST CONCERNS ME WAS THE HANDLING OF OUR MOTORCADE OF
>HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE ENROUTE TO THE GREAT STATE OF LOUISIANA WITH
>SUPPLIES, RELIEF PERSONNEL AND THE HEART OF AMERICANS WHO CARE.  VIRGINIA
>STATE TROOPERS CHOSE TO PULL OVER THE ENTIRE CARAVAN OF MARKED NEW YORK
>CITY POLICE VEHICLES AND OTHER BUSES AND SUPPORT EQUIPMENT.  THE REASONS
>FOR THE LARGEST CAR-STOP IN AMERICA EVER WAS PROFOUNDLY STATED BY YOUR
>ELITE TROOPERS AS FOLLOWS.
>      "BOY, DO YOU KNOW THAT IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO
>USE EMERGENCY LIGHTS UNLESS YOU ARE RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY?"
>      " ALSO AS YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF YOUR JURISDICTION YOU ARE JUST
>CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RIDE IN THE LEFT LANE
>SO YOU MUST REMAIN IN THE RIGHT LANE."
>      NOT ONLY WERE THE TROOPERS READING THE LEAD OFFICER AND NYPD
>SUPERVISORS THE RIOT ACT THEY SHOWED NO RESPECT FOR FELLOW LAW ENFORCEMENT
>AND FOR THE CAUSE AT HAND.
>      IT IS DISHEARTENING THAT THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE GREAT STATE OF
>VIRGINIA HAS MADE WILL BE FOREVER MARRED BY THE ELITE STATE TROOPERS WHO
>PULLED OVER THE MOTORCADE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE, GOING AND COMING BACK.  IT IS
>A DISGRACE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY FOR THIS EGREGIOUS BEHAVIOR AND
>LACK OF COURTESY PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT PROTECT
>AND SERVE THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD, NEW YORK CITY.  AS ARROGANT AS
>THAT SOUNDS IT IS DETERMINED BY PRIDE AND NOT ENVY, JEALOUSY OR OTHER
>NEGATIVE EMOTIONS.  WE ARE PROUD TO BE NEW YORKERS, WE ARE PROUD TO BE
>UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND MOST OF ALL WE ARE PROUD TO BE MEMBERS OF THE
>LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY.  I HAVE TO SAY IF THERE WAS A UNITED NATIONS FOR
>LAW ENFORCEMENT, VIRGINIA STATE TROOPERS WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE A MEMBER OF
>THIS ORGANIZATION.  NOW ONE LAST THING, A BLANKET INDICTMENT OF THE
>VIRGINIA STATE TROOPERS IS NOT THE GOAL OF THIS EMAIL, BUT RATHER IT IS TO
>ENLIGHTEN THE POWERS THAT BE IN YOUR GREAT STATE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
>COMRADERIE AND OF BEING HUMANITARIANS.
>      I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I INCLUDED TWO PICTURES
>DEPICTING THE CAR-STOP OF NYC POLICE BY VIRGINIA STATE TROOPERS.
>      REMEMBER ONE THING IF AN OFF-DUTY NYC POLICE OFFICER WAS TRAVELING
>THROUGH THE STATE OF VIRGINIA AND SAW A TROOPER GETTING HIS LIFE HANDED TO
>HIM/HER, THE NYPD MEMBER WOULD AT RISK TO HIS/HER SELF AND
>FAMILY/FRIENDS/PASSENGERS PULL OVER AND HELP THE TROOPER REMAIN A TROOPER
>ON THIS EARTH AND NOT A TROOPER PATROLING HEAVEN OR HELL.  THAT IS A
>PROMISE!  INCIDENTS LIKE THESE CAUSE DOUBTS THAT MAY MEAN SECONDS THAT MAY
>MEAN A VIRGINIA STATE TROOPER'S LIFE.
>
>                    ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!



5/29/2011 7:45:05 AM EDT
[#8]
While I agree with what VSP did a few years ago pulling over the convoy racing through VA because they felt they were uber important (especially since they were warned once prior)  I do hate the fact that VSP give other LEO's a break on HOV tickets.  So many times I've seen a unmarked fed car with 1 person in it get stopped at a HOV checkpoint only to flash his/her lights and get waived through.  Marked cars get waived right through.  Not only is it enough that I'm paying a FLEO's salary, plus his gas, insurance, and cost of the car, but he's so damn important he can't sit in traffic like the rest of us commoners.



5/29/2011 9:06:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'll give it to our Troopers.  Generally, you aren't going to walk away without a traffic citation from them, but they are among the best and most professional in the nation.  Things like what you described are common place with them, I believe.  Thought it was great when they gave traffic tickets to the New Jersey troopers who were racing up I-81 a few years ago.


IIRC va trooper let the jersey cops go with a warning and it was a county deputy that wrote them up.


Thought that I had read here in the HTF that it was VSP troopers who stopped and ticketed.  I could be wrong about that, still my opinion that the VSP are extremely professional.
5/29/2011 10:25:24 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Here's something I've had for a couple of years and no I am not the author nor do I know who wrote it... Cut/Pasted in its entirety please read the entire thing before commenting..



VIRGINIA STATE TROOPERS AND THEIR COURTESY TO FELLOW OFFICERS
>
>
>
>      TO THE SUPERVISORS AND STATE OFFICIALS OF THE BEAUTIFUL STATE OF
[snip]
INCIDENTS LIKE THESE CAUSE DOUBTS THAT MAY MEAN SECONDS THAT MAY
>MEAN A VIRGINIA STATE TROOPER'S LIFE.
>
>                    ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!



I'm surprised whoever wrote that can fit into a patrol car with an ego that big.  If he's not careful, he'll blow his elbow out from patting himself on the back too hard.
5/29/2011 4:14:44 PM EDT
[#11]







Quoted:




Usually the vdot service crews do that.



Virginia State Police even has separate people and cars (white paint with amber lightbars) dedicated for "motorist assistance" as the vehicles are marked. But I've seen normal state troopers helping people as well.
 
5/29/2011 4:19:16 PM EDT
[#12]







Quoted:


I do hate the fact that VSP give other LEO's a break on HOV tickets.  So many times I've seen a unmarked fed car with 1 person in it get stopped at a HOV checkpoint only to flash his/her lights and get waived through.  Marked cars get waived right through.







According to VDOT, emergency vehicles (fire, ambulance, rescue) and law enforcement
vehicles are exempt from HOV.
 
5/29/2011 6:09:51 PM EDT
[#13]
I wonder if just flashing a badge qualifies then...since I've seen that too.  LEO in a POV, flash a badge...hey have a nice day!
5/29/2011 6:29:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's something I've had for a couple of years and no I am not the author nor do I know who wrote it... Cut/Pasted in its entirety please read the entire thing before commenting..



VIRGINIA STATE TROOPERS AND THEIR COURTESY TO FELLOW OFFICERS
>
>
>
>      TO THE SUPERVISORS AND STATE OFFICIALS OF THE BEAUTIFUL STATE OF
[snip]
INCIDENTS LIKE THESE CAUSE DOUBTS THAT MAY MEAN SECONDS THAT MAY
>MEAN A VIRGINIA STATE TROOPER'S LIFE.
>
>                    ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!



I'm surprised whoever wrote that can fit into a patrol car with an ego that big.  If he's not careful, he'll blow his elbow out from patting himself on the back too hard.


True, Highway is kinda like that, years ago one guy was such a toolbox to the public and other cops he was transferred to the transit bureau to ride subway trains. He was told that he would never sit in the driver's seat of a cruiser ever again.  Just providing something of interest, not that I necessarily agree with what the author wrote but there is definitely a different mindset comparing LEOs from the South versus the North.
5/30/2011 12:39:03 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I wonder if just flashing a badge qualifies then...since I've seen that too.  LEO in a POV, flash a badge...hey have a nice day!


Many federal officers are given drive home official vehicles with what looks to be regular Virginia, Maryland, or DC plates. A private citizen would never know the status, so yeah, flashing a badge would appear to be "professional courtesy".

5/30/2011 3:01:25 AM EDT
[#16]
It's funny where this thread has gone since it started.
5/30/2011 3:59:27 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's something I've had for a couple of years and no I am not the author nor do I know who wrote it... Cut/Pasted in its entirety please read the entire thing before commenting..



VIRGINIA STATE TROOPERS AND THEIR COURTESY TO FELLOW OFFICERS
>
>
>
>      TO THE SUPERVISORS AND STATE OFFICIALS OF THE BEAUTIFUL STATE OF
[snip]
INCIDENTS LIKE THESE CAUSE DOUBTS THAT MAY MEAN SECONDS THAT MAY
>MEAN A VIRGINIA STATE TROOPER'S LIFE.
>
>                    ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!



I'm surprised whoever wrote that can fit into a patrol car with an ego that big.  If he's not careful, he'll blow his elbow out from patting himself on the back too hard.


I'm also not surprised that the windbag who wrote that forgot a few details, like the excessive rate of speed (95mph by some accounts) that the NY guys were doing.

Nobody gives a shit what you were doing or where you were coming from - don't drive like an asshole.
5/30/2011 4:04:25 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I'll give it to our Troopers.  Generally, you aren't going to walk away without a traffic citation from them, but they are among the best and most professional in the nation.  


I would agree with that. I can be very critical of LE sometimes, but the VSP are generally very good.

They will almost always write you for moving violations, but I was let go once a long time ago for lacking an inspection sticker. I had just moved to VA and gotten new plates but not yet done the inspection. I explained all that and he told me to just get it done.

5/30/2011 6:09:08 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
It's funny where this thread has gone since it started.


No crap.......What the heck a Trooper helping someone out on the side of the road has to do with NJ LEOs being issued speeding tickets I don't have a clue. Shades of GD.