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2/11/2009 8:10:59 AM EDT

    Im not too familiar with gun shows and how they operate, but Im thinking of going to the Dulles show. Suppose I had an AK and a case of ammo I wanted to sell, how would I go about that? Obviously, Im not going to be getting a booth. Do I just walk around with a sign? Or how would I go about doing that?
2/11/2009 8:21:45 AM EDT
[#1]
You can walk around with a sign or the firearm with you. They will strap it with a wire tie for safety (read liability reasons). Ive seen guns for sale with a wood dowel and a sign hanging from the muzzle.

What type of AK? Details please. My brother might be interested.

How much for the ammo and what brand? I'll take it if it is Wolf/Golden Tiger

You can send me a PM or email: [email protected]
2/11/2009 8:26:02 AM EDT
[#2]
Most people just walk around with a sign either on themselves or on the weapon stating what they are selling and the price.  If you are selling ammunition to, I would put that on the sign, but obviously would not walk around with it unless you think it will sell quickly.

As already mentioned, they will check the weapon and tie it at the door.
2/11/2009 8:28:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Forgot to post that you are not allowed to have ammunition in the show again for liability reasons.

http://thenationsgunshow.com/ShowRules/tabid/56/Default.aspx

You can also post a FS thread in the EE:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7
2/11/2009 8:33:09 AM EDT
[#4]
No problem CCW there right?

I mean, what if I am looking for a holster for my carry weapon and I have it on me.  Do I need to unload and check it when I walk through the door or can I simply pull it out at the show, unload, make clear and then see if it fits in said holster?

2/11/2009 8:39:35 AM EDT
[#5]
DUE TO PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, THERE WILL BE NO LOADED GUNS, OR MAGAZINES, ALLOWED ON THE SHOW FLOOR.


Just saw this.  Does that trump our CHP?
2/11/2009 8:47:30 AM EDT
[#6]
Yes. Its private property at that point and they can prohibit loaded guns.
2/11/2009 9:24:04 AM EDT
[#7]
I've walked around with a sign on my back at that show before.  You can likely expect an endless amount of tire-kickers.  YMMV.
2/11/2009 9:49:38 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
DUE TO PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, THERE WILL BE NO LOADED GUNS, OR MAGAZINES, ALLOWED ON THE SHOW FLOOR.


Just saw this.  Does that trump our CHP?


Yep, no CCW is allowed . ALL guns must be zip tied , and unloaded.
2/11/2009 10:08:52 AM EDT
[#9]
As others said walk around with the gun and a sign. You can put the ammo on the sign as well but leave it in the trunk of the car. Same goes for any of the extra stuff you have for the rifle.

You can also throw the rifle up on Equipment Exchange here saying in the title VA only if you don't want to ship or throw it on vaguntrader.com.
2/11/2009 10:56:20 AM EDT
[#10]
I've walked around the show with a 12-gauge, 28" Remington 1100 and a sign taped to it...for all of about 15 minutes, and then a guy bought it on the spot.

I've also sold a S&W SW9VE relatively quickly, too.

Perhaps I got lucky and found buyers pretty quickly.  It wouldn't have been much fun lugging that 1100 around for a few hours without a sling or something...
2/11/2009 11:32:02 AM EDT
[#11]
My luck in selling items in the past seems to be tied almost entirely to the cost of the item.  When I have tried to sell something in the 500 dollar range or below, I have found buyers quickly.  I also have had less tire kickers and ridiculous offers with these types of items.

However, when I have tried to carry around more expensive items, I typically end up coming home with the item at the end of the show.  Plus, I will get alot more people making lowball offers or the dealers doing you a "favor" and offering you 1/3 of the actual value of the gun.
2/11/2009 1:15:33 PM EDT
[#12]
So I am still learning the laws but here is a question for you.

So if a FTF handgun purchase is good to go at a Gunshow, is it still legal to just "cash & carry" with a private seller?

If I am going to buy a handgun from a private seller, do I need to go to a gunshop and have them do anything or would it just be said that the handgun purchase from the private seller happened at a Gunshow? (like the one this weekend at Dulles)

Thanks...

2/11/2009 1:19:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
So I am still learning the laws but here is a question for you.

So if a FTF handgun purchase is good to go at a Gunshow, is it still legal to just "cash & carry" with a private seller?

If I am going to buy a handgun from a private seller, do I need to go to a gunshop and have them do anything or would it just be said that the handgun purchase from the private seller happened at a Gunshow? (like the one this weekend at Dulles)

Thanks...



A gun show is the same as any other private sale. There's no "loophole" that lets the government force you to do something at a gun show that you wouldn't have to do in any other FTF. (yes, I'm suggesting we should turn around the character of the rhetoric, and suggest that the MVM-supported candidates of the world are proposing to give the government a "gun show loophole," through which they can abridge your rights. Hot damn.
2/11/2009 1:54:07 PM EDT
[#14]
I sold a 410 and a 22 at the same show once. I didn't even get a chance to walk in the door before someone came up to me in the parking lot and bought them both on the spot.
2/11/2009 2:11:45 PM EDT
[#15]
what glarus said...

just remember, no sales of any kind to anyone other than FFL holders or VA residents
2/11/2009 2:31:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Um...bad idea to be trying out leather with a loaded gun...besides, loaded weapons are NOT ALLOWED!

Quoted:
Forgot to post that you are not allowed to have ammunition in the show again for liability reasons.

http://thenationsgunshow.com/ShowRules/tabid/56/Default.aspx

You can also post a FS thread in the EE:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7


2/11/2009 5:29:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
what glarus said...

just remember, no sales of any kind to anyone other than FFL holders or VA residents


Actually, it's perfectly legal for the OP to sell his ammo to someone that's not a Va resident. No Firearm sales to anyone that's not an FFL holder or Va resident.

2/11/2009 6:03:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
So I am still learning the laws but here is a question for you.

So if a FTF handgun purchase is good to go at a Gunshow, is it still legal to just "cash & carry" with a private seller?

If I am going to buy a handgun from a private seller, do I need to go to a gunshop and have them do anything or would it just be said that the handgun purchase from the private seller happened at a Gunshow? (like the one this weekend at Dulles)

Thanks...



as long as you are both VA residents, you don't have to do anything special. trade gun for cash, done.
2/11/2009 6:05:58 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
No problem CCW there right?

I mean, what if I am looking for a holster for my carry weapon and I have it on me.  Do I need to unload and check it when I walk through the door or can I simply pull it out at the show, unload, make clear and then see if it fits in said holster?



Trying on different holsters with a loaded firearm in a crowded place would not be a good idea, even if bringing loaded guns into the place was allowed.
2/11/2009 8:17:43 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
what glarus said...

just remember, no sales of any kind to anyone other than FFL holders or VA residents


Actually, it's perfectly legal for the OP to sell his ammo to someone that's not a Va resident. No Firearm sales to anyone that's not an FFL holder or Va resident.



my bad dog, should have been more specific

there is a common misconception that it is legal to sell long rifles privately to residents of other states...that is what I was clarifying....accessories, ammo, etc, are fine...
2/12/2009 3:53:09 AM EDT
[#21]
10-4. Hopefully I didn't come off as breaking balls, I wasn't. You know how crazy things can get from someone misreading something on the net.
2/12/2009 4:27:14 AM EDT
[#22]
It is my personal feeling's that if you do sell anything to anyone privately, that you have a Bill of Sale. It can be as simple as a sheet of notebook paper stating something like "This said item/service is hereby sold to said person in the amount of said dollars." Then you and that person sign it. You can get fancy with it, but nonetheless it is still a good idea all around. For your personal records. This is just my opinion though.

Jeremy
2/12/2009 5:07:03 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
10-4. Hopefully I didn't come off as breaking balls, I wasn't. You know how crazy things can get from someone misreading something on the net.


Seriously.  I hate to think that people here believe I would ACTUALLY carry a loaded weapon into a place where I was going to use it to test other merchandise.

My questions were pretty general, but i did get the answers!  
2/12/2009 5:56:52 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
It is my personal feeling's that if you do sell anything to anyone privately, that you have a Bill of Sale. It can be as simple as a sheet of notebook paper stating something like "This said item/service is hereby sold to said person in the amount of said dollars." Then you and that person sign it. You can get fancy with it, but nonetheless it is still a good idea all around. For your personal records. This is just my opinion though.

Jeremy


As long as your the type to do the same for a used bicycle I suppose
2/12/2009 9:30:01 AM EDT
[#25]
Yes, people sometimes walk around with firearms for sale.