Posted: 11/13/2008 11:24:40 AM EDT
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I just found out my boss wants to get his concealed permit and it scares the shit out of me.
He's had numerous strokes and loses his balance all the time. His hand/eye coordination is terrible, and his doc won't even allow him to drive. The thought of a loaded weapon in his hands terrifies me. But he wants to get his permit, and has even gone out and bought a Beretta M9. So, my question: Does the instructor wherever he decides to take the class have the right to look at his medical condition and say "No...I'm not doing this."? |
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A firearms instructor wouldn't have the right to look at his medical records.
If a student of mine was unable to handle the handgun safely, that student would not get a certificate of successful completion. That's just me though. There are other instructors who will simply sell certificates with no knowledge whatsoever of the student's gun handling ability. There's even one guy selling "on line" firearms training. Randy |
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Someone's medical condition and suitability for a CHP is not a determination we get to make. Imagine if an instructor told someone in a wheelchair or with one arm that they were not allowed to take a class for a CHP.... I can see that, but wonder...who can make such a determination? Surely someone can deny a permit based on physical abilities. |
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Someone's medical condition and suitability for a CHP is not a determination we get to make. Imagine if an instructor told someone in a wheelchair or with one arm that they were not allowed to take a class for a CHP.... I can see that, but wonder...who can make such a determination? Surely someone can deny a permit based on physical abilities. If it aint on the form, it aint gonna come up! :) You can request a review of someone's driving abilities but there is no process that I'm aware of to review physical capabilities for a CHP. |
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Does the Judge who issues the permits have any latitude in this case? Indications that the Dr wouldn't let the guy drive, is the license still active? I know that VSP and the local LEO can provide input, but can ordinary citizens?
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You can request a review of someone's driving abilities but there is no process that I'm aware of to review physical capabilities for a CHP. |
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Does the Judge who issues the permits have any latitude in this case? Indications that the Dr wouldn't let the guy drive, is the license still active? I know that VSP and the local LEO can provide input, but can ordinary citizens? Quoted:
You can request a review of someone's driving abilities but there is no process that I'm aware of to review physical capabilities for a CHP. A person can be denied a permit if they are believed to be "likely to use a weapon unlawfully or negligently to endanger others". It does not address physical capabilities. |
| If a student I teach scares me to the point where I think he's an accident waiting to happen, I won't sign off on the certificate. I'll give him a full refund with (maybe) a little bonus like a gift card to an eatery, and then a full list of other instructors to try out, then it's out the door. I'm not having that on my conscience. |
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If a student I teach scares me to the point where I think he's an accident waiting to happen, I won't sign off on the certificate. I'll give him a full refund with (maybe) a little bonus like a gift card to an eatery, and then a full list of other instructors to try out, then it's out the door. I'm not having that on my conscience. I could see doing that, but luckily I havent had such a problematic student. I wouldnt pass them off to someone else however. I'd explain why I felt that they shouldnt be carrying a gun.....imagine someone narcoleptic for example, who open carries.....now that could be rather interesting. |