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8/8/2007 7:19:09 PM EDT
Straight from the horses mouth:

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1.  ACTION ITEM:  Lt. Governor Bolling wants more input on guns!
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IMPORTANT *TWO-PART* Action Item

EM Bob Marcellus sent me this email:

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www.100ideasva.com/?page=ideas&type=VIRGINIA_VALUES

Lt. Governor Bill Bolling's "100 Ideas" website now has THREE new
ideas dealing with guns under the "Values" section :

Idea #9 "Exempt concealed Weapon Permit holders from FOIA" (ONLY 24
comments posted so far!)


Idea #10 "Repeal the restaurant ban" (NO comments yet!)

Idea #11 "Prevent Colleges and Universities from restricting Gun
Owner rights" (NO comments yet!)


VCDL members have done a great job of posting the first 85 comments
on idea #2 "Protect the Second Amendment".  Excellent postings and
volume.

Lt. Governor Bolling is attempting to use the idea page as a basis
for a popular platform for Virginia, much like Newt Gingrich's
contract with America.

This is an important opportunity that we must not let slip by us!

Please go to the website and let's flood it with pro-gun comments so
that the first comments seen by the press and the general public are
as positive and as well done as those on idea #2 "Protect the 2nd
Amendment"

Bob

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After commenting on the above items, let's send Lt. Governor Bolling
an email to encourage him to push forward NOW with these important
items!

Email address:

[email protected]

Suggested message:

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Subject:  Please help Virginia move forward now with gun rights ideas!

Dear Lt. Governor Bolling,

Thank you for putting forward important ideas on your "100 Ideas" web
site that deal with improving and protecting the right of Virginia
citizens to keep and bear arms!

But with lives at stake, I urge you to do whatever you can to push
those ideas forward in the next General Assembly session!

Please work with VCDL and other pro-gun groups to repeal the
restaurant ban, allow adult college students and faculty with
concealed carry permits to carry on campus, and generally protect our
right to keep and bear arms.

Thanks, again, for standing side-by-side with Virginia's gun owners!

Sincerely,
[YOUR NAME]
[YOUR ADDRESS]
8/8/2007 7:33:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Don't use a suggested message. They do notice such things.
8/8/2007 7:40:26 PM EDT
[#2]
I actually just submitted two ideas which I think would be great for Virginia; I just hope I'm not the only one who submitted these ideas:

1) Implement Castle Doctrine - We should not be forced to make every attempt possible to flee when in fear of death or grievous bodily harm before being authorized to use deadly force in defense of our own lives.

2) Pass legislation which prohibits the filing of civil lawsuits by criminals (or their surviving family members) against individuals who utilized deadly force against them when it was determined that the use of such force was justified.  Too many law-abiding and armed citizens who utilize deadly force in defense of their own lives or the lives of third parties are being sued either by the surviving criminal or the criminal's family for "damages" resulting from the use of that force, even when its use was justified and saved one or several lives.

I would LOVE to see those two ideas (which are already in place in other states) on our own books.

_MaH
8/8/2007 10:24:38 PM EDT
[#3]
I posted comments to all of the 2nd ammendment related topics, as well as some others.  I hope I can get to all of them later.  All of my comments were off the cuff and written passionately.  Thanks for letting us know about this.
8/9/2007 5:34:50 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
1) Implement Castle Doctrine - We should not be forced to make every attempt possible to flee when in fear of death or grievous bodily harm before being authorized to use deadly force in defense of our own lives.
_MaH


I just have a couple of quick points in relation to this statement.

1: Virginia effectively already has the castle doctrine.  It exists in the jurisprudence of the court systems.  While it would be nice to have it codified, it already exists in Virginia.

2.  I am sure you know distinction, but your statement about the castle doctrine is a little misleading.  Everything you state is correct, but you left off one important phrase "while in ones home."  The castle doctrine only removes the requirement to retreat or flee while you are in your home, it does not remove this requirement while you are outside of the home.  
8/9/2007 9:23:30 AM EDT
[#5]
thought Va was a stand your ground state? has this changed or did i read something wrong?
8/9/2007 10:06:01 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
thought Va was a stand your ground state? has this changed or did i read something wrong?


As long as you did nothing to provoke the encounter, there is no duty to retreat.  If you did anything to provoke it or help bring it about then you have to retreat.



“The rule may be briefly stated thus: If the accused is in no fault whatever, but in the discharge of a lawful act, he need not retreat, but may repel force by force, if need be, to the extent of slaying his adversary. This is justifiable homicide in self-defense. But if a sudden fight is brought on, without malice or intention, the accused, if in fault, must retreat as far as he safely can, but, having done so and in good faith abandoned the fight, may kill his adversary, if he cannot in any other way preserve his life or save himself from great bodily harm. Vaiden's Case, 12 Gratt. (53 Va.) 717, 729.”

McCoy v. Commonwealth, 125 Va. 771, 776, 99 S.E. 644, ___ (1919)