Posted: 10/1/2006 6:36:05 AM EDT
| So, I went to the range this morning to shoot my new Sig. And everything is going to the left. What am I doing wrong? (by the way, frtloop here) |
Try this: Shooter Analysis |
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If everything is going left and you are right handed one of the first things I would check is what part of your finger you are pulling the trigger with. Shooting left is often a sign of using too much trigger finger. If you pull your finger out of the trigger guard slightly (use the pad instead of the knuckle) you may see some difference. Also, you may be pulling the trigger too fast and slapping at it. Anticipating recoil shows up on the target as shooting low. Hope this helps. Which Sig did you get? shooter |
The above link references single handed shooting. It doesn't include any of the issues that a support hand can create. |
Another tool from this website. These tools ARE applicable for two handed shooting. I've used them many times to help shooters identitfy and correct problems. YMMV. Group Analysis #2 |
Almost exactly what I was looking for! |
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Relax... The only reason I pointed it out was that there is no diagnostic points to determine if the support or strong hand has unequal pressure and such problems encountered when you put another monkey in the gears. Besides, I find it much easier to determine basic shooter errors while they shoot one handed. When they get that down, shoot with both. If there is a new found error, it is usually a grip or pressure issue, not anticipation, milking, heeling, thumbing or pushing as they have already corrected that in the first stage. They are good charts, there isn't a chart that can determine every problem out there. I practice the idea that you can learn more by watching that chart diagnosis. |
You are absolutely correct. Observation of the shooter is the best way to solve the problem. I was simply providing the requested charts. They are a pretty good self help tool, but nothing works as well as a good observer. |
Congrats on the SIG, frtloop... They're my pistol of choice as well.  Beware, as SIG owners sometimes find themselves buying more of 'em.One thing that might help in diagnosing what's going on (especially if you're assisted/observed by someone experienced in training pistol shooting) might be the use of one of the following targets: For left-hand shooting For right-hand shooting I'll note in passing that one's capability to train/coach is not necessarily related to their own marksmanship skills. An experienced 'eye' watching you fire will probably identify in short order factor(s) that is/are contributing to the problem (which could just be the result of an improperly set rear-sight, as DrMark also noted). If it turns out that the rear sight location is the cause (easily diagnosed by letting a couple of other proficient shooters fire a group from the pistol), I'd be happy to bring a SIG sight-pusher to the NRA range to allow your sight to be set on the firing line, without any hammering on your new pistol. The single-stack 228 is narrower than afplayboy18's 226, which might be contributing to the accuracy difference you've observed. I'd be happy to lend you a 229 (the double-stack equivalent of the 228 to the non-SIG-cognoscente), albeit in .40 S&W, if you want to try it. It's grip is about the same as that of a 226. I've got a 2022 in 9-mm (again, double-stack), but it's dimensions/weight are not as close to the 228. Just send an E-mail a couple of days in advance of if you want to pursue any of these options ... |
Actually, the 228 us a double stack that has a grip diameter VERY similar to the 226. Frtlp, does one of the Sigs have a short trigger by any chance? That may make a difference in the two trigger pulls (in geometry, not weight). The difference could also be in the sites (particularly if they have been replaced and are not perfectly centered. Those are the two primary equipment differences I can think of that would make the 228 different to shoot than the 226. shooter ETA: I can't spell....that "group" should have been grip. |
D'oh ...  ... from someone who's proven he's a member of the non-SIG-cognoscente, as well as not believing himself up to the task of coaching this problem. I was thinking of the 225 instead of the 228, neither of which I own. As shooter220 observed -- while establishing his/her membership in the SIG-cognoscente -- and extracted ed from the article available here:
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Eh, no worries. I am a little bit of a Sig-aholic. Have a 226 and a 225 (which has a Langdon trigger job), and had a 220 (which I sold when broke in grad school like an idiot). There was briefly a 239 in the pistol bag, but it wasn't meant for me and it almost doesn't count. shooter |
FrtLoop, Robb (gotm4) said he'd give you a lesson and do a 228 trigger job if you want free of charge. He also can install a 'short' trigger if you get one, those cost about $50.00 |
That would be great...not sure about the 'short' trigger yet...but I would really appreciate all the help I can get right now. |