Posted: 5/31/2015 11:53:26 PM EDT
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There wasn't much of anything we wanted moving. Our cleanup trailer bill will be described below as I copied the Alert that Valinda put together for IllinoisCarry. The anti-gun folks are very upset that they didn't get to put some of their crap on this bill. After all, "they "gave" us Concealed Carry"! We were told there couldn't be anything considered "a gain" in the bill so the other side didn't get to put any of their gains in it either. The fix for the shooting complex at Sparta was that there would have been a list of ALL register shooters turned in to the ISP so they could sell long guns to anyone wanting to buy. We explained to everyone up and down the food chain in Springfield that gun folks don't want any more to do with the ISP than necessary and it could cost participation.. They finally got the message and we told them how it could work and the language was changed.
It was a very hostile environment and if it wasn't for the Sparta fix, we most likely wouldn't have gotten any fixes done. I don't expect much movement on gun issues for a while as the anti-gun folks feel they have to "get something too". We won't trade out existing rights to get new ones... As far as suppressors, I think it is going to take more education of the public. We have folks from our side in Chicago against them saying that gang bangers will use them to kill cops!!! Some legislators are saying "no one has called my office wanting them". So, if we ever expect to get them, we will have to change minds and create grass roots support. We were in Springfield from Tuesday till Sunday night...In Mike days, that is about 3 weeks. (the stupidity and politics suck the very life out of me)   
Mike Valinda's Alert: Illinois Gun Owners Succeed! Firearm Concealed Carry Clean-Up Bill Passes 43-8 SB836 Headed to Governor's Desk SB836 passed both the House and Senate over the weekend and now heads to Governor Rauner's desk. He is expected to sign the measure which is a list of technical items needed to improve the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. We are disappointed that provisions for non-resident military service members to qualify for CCLs, concealed carry while hunting, and clarification of due process were removed from the bill before it would be allowed to pass to the Senate. We will need to continue to push for these measures. The following improvements were included in SB836: 1. Provides an appeal process for persons denied a FOID card because of minor developmental disabilities. This is an initiative of mental health professionals seeking to remedy an injustice identified in existing law. 2. Combines the function of the FOID Card and Firearm Concealed Carry License for purchase and possession of firearms and ammunition. Licensees will only need to carry their CCL. 3. Clarifies the "duty to inform". Presentation of a concealed carry license to law enforcement is sufficient to fulfill this obligation. 4. Clarifies that the waiver of privacy in the Firearm Concealed Carry License application shall be limited to information needed to determine licensee's eligibility. 5. Allows emergency personnel and peace officers to secure a firearm when deemed necessary for safety. 6. Adds an exemption to the Unlawful Use of Weapons Act to avoid misunderstandings about a Concealed Carry Licensee's authority to carry a firearm. 7. Allows a licensee to exit his or her vehicle in a restricted parking lot without first unloading, for the purpose of storing the firearm in the trunk. This is the original "safe haven" concept that was inadvertently left out of current law, and provides an increased measure of safety. 8. Allows the sale of long guns to nonresident competitors at the World Shooting Complex, not subject to the 24 hour waiting period. This revenue generating measure is still subject to background checks and other appropriate safeguards |
| Thank you Mike & Valinda for all your hard work on our behalf. I can imagine it is very frustrating when you present a logical argument only to be met with politically motivated negative answer. Please know that we really appreciate your efforts and await further instruction to assist. |
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Thank you Mike & Valinda for all your hard work on our behalf. I can imagine it is very frustrating when you present a logical argument only to be met with politically motivated negative answer. Please know that we really appreciate your efforts and await further instruction to assist. Thanks for kind words and you are so right on the money about those frustrations!!! At this point, the best thing we can do is get noisy with the legislators. Talk to them and your friends about things we want and need. They and the public need educated about suppressors...their costs, limitations, and actual benefits. With the legislators, we can't make it just a logical discussion, it also has to be a political discussion on what the constituents want to make them happy. Our biggest disappointment in the trailer bill was not getting the stationed here military CC problem fixed. We worked very hard and pushed every button we could push to get that done. As of now, it will be up to our (slow moving) lawsuit to fix it. |
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Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but my hat is off to you for all of your work. I'm with you. In 2005 or 2006 I got in a face to face conversation with Senator Dan Cronin about some piece of anti-gun legislation that was coming up for a vote. I laid out a solid argument in opposition to the anti-gun stuff and he told he agreed with me but he couldn't always vote for what was right, that sometimes he had to vote the way he was told by the President of the Senate. (At the time that was Emil Jones) 
Cronin usually voted our way, but the day he admitted that to my face, I could have strangled him! I don't have the patience to put up with political, illogical nonsense. |
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I'm with you. In 2005 or 2006 I got in a face to face conversation with Senator Dan Cronin about some piece of anti-gun legislation that was coming up for a vote. I laid out a solid argument in opposition to the anti-gun stuff and he told he agreed with me but he couldn't always vote for what was right, that sometimes he had to vote the way he was told by the President of the Senate. (At the time that was Emil Jones)
Cronin usually voted our way, but the day he admitted that to my face, I could have strangled him! I don't have the patience to put up with political, illogical nonsense. Quoted:
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Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but my hat is off to you for all of your work. I'm with you. In 2005 or 2006 I got in a face to face conversation with Senator Dan Cronin about some piece of anti-gun legislation that was coming up for a vote. I laid out a solid argument in opposition to the anti-gun stuff and he told he agreed with me but he couldn't always vote for what was right, that sometimes he had to vote the way he was told by the President of the Senate. (At the time that was Emil Jones)
Cronin usually voted our way, but the day he admitted that to my face, I could have strangled him! I don't have the patience to put up with political, illogical nonsense. And people still argue against term limits... |
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Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but my hat is off to you for all of your work. I'm with you. In 2005 or 2006 I got in a face to face conversation with Senator Dan Cronin about some piece of anti-gun legislation that was coming up for a vote. I laid out a solid argument in opposition to the anti-gun stuff and he told he agreed with me but he couldn't always vote for what was right, that sometimes he had to vote the way he was told by the President of the Senate. (At the time that was Emil Jones)
Cronin usually voted our way, but the day he admitted that to my face, I could have strangled him! I don't have the patience to put up with political, illogical nonsense. And people still argue against term limits... Yes they do. We need term limits very badly in this state. I don't think we will ever see that happen as the crooks would have to vote themselves out of a job. |
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Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but my hat is off to you for all of your work. I'm with you. In 2005 or 2006 I got in a face to face conversation with Senator Dan Cronin about some piece of anti-gun legislation that was coming up for a vote. I laid out a solid argument in opposition to the anti-gun stuff and he told he agreed with me but he couldn't always vote for what was right, that sometimes he had to vote the way he was told by the President of the Senate. (At the time that was Emil Jones)
Cronin usually voted our way, but the day he admitted that to my face, I could have strangled him! I don't have the patience to put up with political, illogical nonsense. And people still argue against term limits... Yes they do. We need term limits very badly in this state. I don't think we will ever see that happen as the crooks would have to vote themselves out of a job. There was a time I argued against term limits since I always thought that if you had someone you liked you should be able to keep them. I no longer believe that. If you found one good one you can find another. In this state I'm not sure it would matter though. Even if every Republican always votes our way it's not enough to change outcomes very much. |
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There was a time I argued against term limits since I always thought that if you had someone you liked you should be able to keep them. I no longer believe that. If you found one good one you can find another. In this state I'm not sure it would matter though. Even if every Republican always votes our way it's not enough to change outcomes very much. Quoted:
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Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but my hat is off to you for all of your work. I'm with you. In 2005 or 2006 I got in a face to face conversation with Senator Dan Cronin about some piece of anti-gun legislation that was coming up for a vote. I laid out a solid argument in opposition to the anti-gun stuff and he told he agreed with me but he couldn't always vote for what was right, that sometimes he had to vote the way he was told by the President of the Senate. (At the time that was Emil Jones)
Cronin usually voted our way, but the day he admitted that to my face, I could have strangled him! I don't have the patience to put up with political, illogical nonsense. And people still argue against term limits... Yes they do. We need term limits very badly in this state. I don't think we will ever see that happen as the crooks would have to vote themselves out of a job. There was a time I argued against term limits since I always thought that if you had someone you liked you should be able to keep them. I no longer believe that. If you found one good one you can find another. In this state I'm not sure it would matter though. Even if every Republican always votes our way it's not enough to change outcomes very much. I have little faith in either party in our corrupt state. Thank you Swanhunter, Molly B, and Todd V. for all that you do. |