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10/9/2012 3:24:18 PM EDT
I've read them a few times but am still a little confused.

As a non-resident transport is ok unloaded and encased even if the case is the center console of the vehicle.  Also ammo can be in the "case" but the weapon cannot be loaded.

Is this correct for just passing through? What if I were staying for a few days and maybe even doing some shooting?  

I have family with some rural land and they are FOID card holders.
10/9/2012 3:48:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Weapon has to be out of reach, so in the back either in the trunk or behind the seat, unloaded in the case but may have the loaded mag in the case when in the vehicle.
10/9/2012 5:03:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Nothing in the law says it has to be out of reach if it's unloaded and cased.
10/9/2012 5:07:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Nothing in the law says it has to be out of reach if it's unloaded and cased.


Yes, that is exactly what is says, when an out of stater is involved.

720 ILCS 5/24-1(a)(4)
(4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or concealed on or about his person except when on his land or in his own abode, legal dwelling, or fixed place of business, or on the land or in the legal dwelling of another person as an invitee with that person's permission, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm, except that this subsection (a) (4) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet one of the following conditions:
           (i) are broken down in a non-functioning state; or
           (ii) are not immediately accessible; or
           (iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card; or
10/9/2012 5:35:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Nothing in the law says it has to be out of reach if it's unloaded and cased.


Yes, that is exactly what is says, when an out of stater is involved.

720 ILCS 5/24-1(a)(4)
(4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or concealed on or about his person except when on his land or in his own abode, legal dwelling, or fixed place of business, or on the land or in the legal dwelling of another person as an invitee with that person's permission, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm, except that this subsection (a) (4) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet one of the following conditions:
           (i) are broken down in a non-functioning state; or
           (ii) are not immediately accessible; or
           (iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card; or



Why do "they" refuse to write this shit in plain english?

So basically that section says that I only need to meet one of the three conditions?  (i),(ii) or (iii).  (iii) would be pretty hard to meet without first meeting with a FOID holder before crossing the border.

It also sounds like you can carry in a vehicle on your own land?  My brother once told me he would be arrested for having a .22 rifle in his truck not in a case on his own land?
10/9/2012 5:47:58 PM EDT
[#5]
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm

Non- residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that, in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all firearms:

1.   Unloaded, and
2.   Enclosed in a case, and
3.   Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state.

Should I just go with this?
10/9/2012 6:15:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm

Non- residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that, in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all firearms:

1.   Unloaded, and
2.   Enclosed in a case, and
3.   Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state.

Should I just go with this?


Yes.
10/9/2012 7:53:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Didn't People v. Holmes open the portion about FOID holder in 720 ILCS 5/24-1(a)(4)(iii) to non-residents with a valid CCW?
10/10/2012 2:14:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Basically if you don't live in IL you can't get a foid. So the court ruled that they cannot prosecute you for not having one. Which is what that case basically says.
10/16/2012 3:50:57 AM EDT
[#9]
Do you have to have an IL drivers license to get a FOID?  Son is going to college in IL and wants to shoot on trap & Skeet team.  He needs a shotgun, but apparently can't have one without a FOID.

Also, I can carry as long as it's unloaded, in a case, and out of reach of the driver, along with my AL CCW?  What about long guns?  Same rules?
10/17/2012 2:56:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Do you have to have an IL drivers license to get a FOID?  Son is going to college in IL and wants to shoot on trap & Skeet team.  He needs a shotgun, but apparently can't have one without a FOID.


You have to be a resident to get an FOID.

You can get an IL ID, but they use the SoS DL/ID picture on your FOID, and the one you send in to verify you are who you say you are.

Interesting because students aren't typically "residents", but there's no time frame on what separates a visitor and a resident AFAIK.

Also, I can carry as long as it's unloaded, in a case, and out of reach of the driver, along with my AL CCW?  What about long guns?  Same rules?


You should be fine given those conditions.

ETA - as long as you don't encounter Officer Nobodyneedsagun... but that risk is everywhere.
10/20/2012 8:21:23 AM EDT
[#11]
Thank you for the good info.  I will be up there next month for my son's surgery, have to get his shoudler fixed so he can play football next year.  He was red shirted this year.