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10/24/2006 7:14:41 AM EDT
What do you guys think of this guy?

He definitely sounds good for 2A but not sure I agree with the rest of his views.

www.whitneyforgov.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=15


Nonetheless, the weight of evidence supports the conclusion that homicide and other violent crime declines where law-abiding people have the right to carry firearms to defend themselves and deter violence by others. Therefore, I support right to carry in Illinois, with appropriate objective training, licensing and background check requirements. I lean toward "open and carry" as opposed to "conceal and carry," since the deterrent effect of firearms would seem to be enhanced by their visibility.
10/24/2006 1:56:28 PM EDT
[#1]
He looks great, but in 2006 a vote for him is a vote for Blago. Argue about it all you want, but its the truth.
10/24/2006 2:46:49 PM EDT
[#2]
I like his thinking, but he's coming in too late in the game to be effective. Never heard of him before just now.
10/24/2006 5:02:46 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
He looks great, but in 2006 a vote for him is a vote for Blago. Argue about it all you want, but its the truth.


+1 vote for judy..

and just make sure you vote in the first place..
10/24/2006 7:22:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Not sure what to think about the election  but I can say wierd things are a happening.  In Peoria, the usually pinko Journal Star or"Uninal Jar" is endorsing JBT....A very left leaning paper(Copely) endorsing the Republican candidate.
10/24/2006 9:51:26 PM EDT
[#5]
WOW - just WOW....  I'm suprised the Green Party guy is pro-gun.  - Happily suprised I might add...

I really don't think JBT is going to do much for gun rights.  Blago will be worse though... What we need is a pro-gun, downstate Dem (like Poshard was).  And a complete overhauling of the IL. election laws.


Mike
10/25/2006 6:08:26 AM EDT
[#6]
the point being right now is we need to go with judy...

its to late to start thinking about someone else this late in the game..

will she do alot for our gun rights...no i dont think she will...

BUT i dont think she will make them worse either...

next time around we need to get going much earlier..............
10/27/2006 9:22:44 AM EDT
[#7]
I saw him last night on wttw11 and He definitely sounds good, just wish he was a repucblican or dem, we could win.
11/3/2006 6:04:10 AM EDT
[#8]
I'm sorry, but there is no way in hell I'd ever consider voting for a Green party canidate from Carbondale.  I grew up 20 miles from that 60's left-over hippie crowd, attended college there and that is the last group we need as a governor in my opinion.  As far as i'm concerned when you put Green Party and Carbondale together it's the same as Sierra Club and California.

11/3/2006 3:33:34 PM EDT
[#9]

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I'm sorry, but there is no way in hell I'd ever consider voting for a Green party canidate from Carbondale.  I grew up 20 miles from that 60's left-over hippie crowd, attended college there and that is the last group we need as a governor in my opinion.  As far as i'm concerned when you put Green Party and Carbondale together it's the same as Sierra Club and California.



I know what you mean about carbondale.  I'm going to SIU-C right now, and just today one of my teachers said it "fascinates her to wonder how it would be to live in North Korea".  If that's not a huge WTF I don't know what is.  Not to mention, we pretty much skipped the US/Canada part of the class, but took a hell of a lot of notes about places like subsaharan africa.  
11/4/2006 12:02:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Rich Whitney?
Can you say....



NOOOOOOO!!!
11/4/2006 12:52:49 PM EDT
[#11]
It's not enought to just be the right candidate.  This guy is who you vote for in the primaries.  I am voting for Judy.  This year...Republicans all down the ballet.

And voting down every levy.
11/4/2006 3:30:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Guys I must be losing my mind.

I swear I just read about him and he was listed as NO friend of the NRA or the 2nd amendment.

Anyone else read this somewhere, or am I just dreaming this one up?

It had to do with his arguement on open-carry.


Ehhhh, maybe I am just getting old, but I do believe that a vote for Whitney is exactly the thing which we lead Blago back into office.

Remember, Clinton only got elected because Ross Perot got 21% of the vote and it was shown that the majority of his votes came at the expense of the Republican Party.

TIA
11/5/2006 4:34:10 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Remember, Clinton only got elected because Ross Perot got 21% of the vote and it was shown that the majority of his votes came at the expense of the Republican Party.

TIA


And what a wonderful world it was when Clinton was in office !!!!!

11/7/2006 6:54:15 AM EDT
[#14]
Candidate confirms past Socialist ties

Green Party candidate Whitney was editor of group's paper

By Eric Krol
Daily Herald Political Writer
Posted Sunday, November 05, 2006

Green Party governor candidate Rich Whitney of Carbondale was a national figure in the Socialist Party before resigning his post in 1993 after getting involved in a feud and quitting for law school.

"Naturally, I don't trumpet the fact that I was a Socialist. I was a Socialist because in my political evolution, I've always cared about working people," Whitney told the Daily Herald late Saturday night. "I'm not a Socialist now. A lot of people did things in the 60s and 70s they don't do now."

Although unknown to most voters, the 51-year-old attorney is pulling as much as 16 percent of the vote in polls from those unsatisfied with Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich and Republican candidate Judy Baar Topinka. Whitney admitted that he hadn't told any Illinois reporters about his Socialist past until the Daily Herald called him late Saturday for confirmation.

"I'm not embarrassed by it. If I'm campaigning in southern Illinois, I don't start off by telling them I'm pro-choice, either. That's like leading with your chin," Whitney said. "I used to be a Catholic too, but I don't bring that up either."

Whitney was a Socialist from 1975 to 1993 and served as editor of "The People," the national party's newspaper. In 1989, he penned a resolution at the Socialist convention saying that the notion capitalism triumped over socialism was "false."

"Socialism is a system that has yet to come into existence. it is a system that will come into existence when the working class of an advanced industrialized capitalist society like the United States recognizes that private ownership of the means of production no longer serves the social interest and is incapable of meeting the workers' needs," Whitney wrote.

Whitney said he wasn't a Communist, but believed in "a unique brand of Socialism" that "got back to the original philosophy" of Karl Marx.

But Whitney, whom his Socialist brethren called "Comrade Whitney," resigned as editor after getting in trouble for saying publicly that he thought the Socialist Party was going downhill.

Whitney was outed as a Socialist in a letter to the editor in this week's Illinois Times, an alternative weekly in Springfield by the current national secretary of the Socialist Labor Party of America.
11/7/2006 7:00:01 AM EDT
[#15]
Green Party's platform: http://www.ilgp.org/about/platform-text

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The Illinois Green Party is committed to the goal of providing genuine full employment, at wages and with benefits that will allow every working person to be able to support a family. This is crucial, particularly in light of recent attacks on welfare programs by the two major parties.

A Green government can pursue and attain that economic goal, while simultaneously serving other beneficial objectives – such as promoting a cleaner environment, alternative energy practices, and worker/community ownership and control of industry. [comment: private/public partnerships is called fascism.  Government involvement (or control) of private businesses is fascism.  Both parties do it now to our own detriment, and the green party openly supports it!

The Illinois Green Party also supports other measures to improve working conditions and the quality of life for workers, such as lowering the workweek with no loss in pay; requiring larger employers to provide paid maternity leave, health and pension benefits and paid vacations; better enforcement of occupational safety and health standards, and a law that would protect workers from being fired without just cause.

Similarly, the Illinois Green Party supports the right of persons to reside in and utilize abandoned structures. [comment: on private land?!<i.e-squatter's rights>

End the racist “war on drugs” and the unofficial campaign to incarcerate young black males.

Eradicate environmental racism. [my comment: wtf is environmental racism?!]

We oppose any commercial timber harvesting or other natural resource extraction on public lands.

Our public lands should be made accessible to the public, with the exception of protected wilderness areas. User fees should not be imposed.

We call for strengthening "organic certification standards."

The Illinois Green Party supports proportional representation. "Winner-take-all" is a very undemocratic way to choose representatives to government. Why should 49% of voters in a legislative district get 0% representation? Most democracies in the world use some form of proportional representation to choose legislatures. If one quarter of the voters supports a particular party, they should be able to elect roughly a quarter of the seats in a city council or legislature. The majority of voters will elect the majority of seats but minorities will get their fair share of representation; it's common sense!

A guarantee of a decent standard of living

We support teachers being allowed/encouraged to teach as they see fit.

We support the growing movement for an unconditional amnesty for all undocumented workers presently in the country.

We support the decriminalization of “pirate” radio



Well, there you have it.  Unbelievable.  When the @#%! will people understand that government should KEEP ITS DAMN HANDS OFF! Every time the government meddles in our affairs it creates more and more problems in addition to loss of liberty.  Screw this party.

ICarry.org endorsed Judy the day she won the primary, and we've stuck with that endorsement ever since.  Yes, there are a couple better candidates (and Rich Whitney is NOT one of them), but gun owners are not organized enough to vote for one of them.  So we're stuck with Judy, until we can get organized (join www.icarry.org to get with it).

If for some reason you can't bring yourself to vote for Judy, I would urge you to vote for write-in candidate Mark McCoy (independent, but he's a libertarian and a good guy!!) or Randy Stufflebeam (Constitution Party).  But really -- just vote for Topinka no matter how bad it smells.  Cast your clothespin vote :P  Let's get Blowhard out please.
11/7/2006 8:36:58 AM EDT
[#16]
Just to put a little post script on this topic, I didn't vote democrat and I didn't vote green.

I love my country but I just hate these politicians.