[ARCHIVED THREAD] - CCW in IL (Page 1 of 2)
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I think our best bet is to go for federal reciprocity. Your driver's license is good in all 50 states, not sure why a CCW permit isn't. Some big senator needs to take note of that and take care of it. Once it was passed it wouldn't matter what kind of nonsense laws the states have. My solution is going to be to move, eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later. |
Great progress has been made in this area in IL. And we have several organizations working towards it everyday. I would be willing to bet that in the next 5-10 years IL will have a CCW, but will require some sort of training course to get it. It's becoming clear to some of the Western and southern dems that this is a good thing, so hopefully we can get a Republican Gov that supports the 2nd Amend. and we could probably get it passed. Here to Hoping. 
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It was in the works, but it got changed to CCW for judges, I believe.  Our laws kind of allow carry right now, but it's useless. Read here . So we can carry, the gun just has to be unloaded and in a case. I'd hate to think what would happen if some ran in to a situation where the weapon had be used, and was. |
Actually, "agents of the court" have been allowed carry for some time, IIRC. From the ILCS:
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The pres. of ISRA recently said that if we can toss Blago out of the capitol, we stand a pretty good chance. The backlash against King Dick and his sock-puppet govenor is growing every day. Too bad it's lossing steam with Pat Fitzgerald being busy with all the Scooter Libby crap..... As long as the IL-GOP picks a decent candidate, we have a chance. If they pick another RINO-wacko, we're screwed. CKMorley |
How much would you be willing to bet? I highly doubt IL will ever have CCW shall issue at the hands of the IL legislator. Great progress? The only thing I have seen happen in IL is carrying a handgun go from a misdemeanor to a felony. I just don't ever see it happening. |
Don't think negative. The only states that don't have CCW besides IL are WI, NE, and KS. MO just got theirs last year...so keep a positive outlook. |
By great progress, I didn't mean we passed it. But CCW has been a major pro-gun issue the last two years or so. THAT is progress in my eyes. Even if Illinois goes to "may" issue, where the Sherriff issues them, I'm not to worried. I live in a county that Hates Chicago and Cook county and doesn't share their views on the world. Don't get me wrong, we have a long way to go before we have some of the freedoms other states do. I understand its hard to undo so many years of bad politicians being elected and passing BS laws. But we are making progress, even if it can only be measured with an electron microscope. 
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Trouble is...us Crook County folks may get royally screwed if they even do a may issue
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those of us in ALL THE RED COUNTIES will think of you! |
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I agree with Cody that the fact is is spoken about as much as it is is progress in motion. The true answer to the question is civil disobediance. We should carry regrdless of Illinois' unconstitutional laws. Again, I don't want to upset anyone but the minority factor is why there is no CCW in Illinois and the reason we have FOID's. The FOID act was is response to the race riots in the 60's to try and keep Blacks from buying guns. This is why the law was changed to a felony for hangun possesion, I believe in 1993 because of the out of control thug problem in Chicago. So.....if you look at what Chicago actually does, they don't just trample the Second Amendment, they also trample the Thirteenth Amendment that states all men in America are free and that no race is entitled to civil liberties that the other is not. Where I live, a handgun is not generally needed. I have an AR in a case, unloaded behind the seat in my truck and a few loaded mags in the glove box. If the SHTF while I am driving, I will get home. And please, please don't jump dpwn my throat anyone calling me a Racist. I am not, until we take a real look at the issues we face, we will never find an answer. I am the first to critisize minorities, because the facts are there but the reality of our gun laws is a direct result of old world Chicago commie politics. |
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I think even though we have a state controlled by our largest city and a liberal governor, there are senators in the General Assembly that are thinking about our rights. One example is Sen. Dan Rutherford. Very Pro-CCW. Also, Representative Ray Lahood. Steve Rauschenberger(sp?) IIRC was the NRA's pick back in the US Senate race, but I'm not sure. |
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Suddenly the outlook has changed on this! If you haven't already, go over to the GD and read up on the thread titled Safe Act Blitz. It's a national reciprocity bill that states a person who holds a valid CCW from any Statemay carry in their homestate, and that may not be overridden by your homestate's laws. FIREMISSION!!!!! |
Sorry if I came off as a smart ass, I have a tendancy to do that before I've had my coffee. I want CCW here as much as anybody, but right now, carrying in IL is a felony. Felony records will seriously hinder your application process if and when we are granted this right. If a guy wants to do the fanny pack carry, by all rights go ahead. I'll support ya all the way. But I'm not going to do it myself. |
Carrying a firearm in Illinois is usually not a felony, unless in these two circumstances:
Misdemeanor otherwise....... |
Carrying a concealed handgun is always a felony in Illinois, there is no exception. |
Wrong...read the text! in accordance with the terms of the license or with the laws of the State of the person's residence, subject to the laws of the State in which the firearm is carried concerning specific types of locations in which firearms may not be carried.'. |
well damn. I read this part- Sec. 926D. Reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms `Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof, a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm , and is-- `(1) carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of any State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm ; or and I guess I convienently overlooked the rest, as I was excited about the prospect of having the same rights as the citizens of 46 other states. I can't wait til my gf gets her bachelors and we can move to a freed man's state..... |
Tim, carrying a loaded concealed handgun in Illinois is without a doubt a felony. Don't test the waters, you'll lose your FOID. The law was changed in the early 90's, another ISRA victory. The shit hit the fan in a major way in the gun rights world when this happened. If you are in your business or home, it is not a crime. If you have a loaded concealed handgun in your car or your person, you are an IL felon my brother. |
Read the law again man. Find for me in the law where it is a felony and I'll be glad to retract my statement. It is not a felony. |
[obnoxious buzz] WRONG!! [/obnoxious buzz]... UUW is a felony...DO NOT ask how I know. The law changed from misdemeanor to felony in 1995. |
Read the law and find it. It can't just be a felony because you have said so, and what you're saying contradicts the law. |
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No. You're wrong and you know it. Obviously if you were a convicted felon, you woudln't be able to legally own a firearm so visiting this website would be a waste of your time. Read the law again. The carrying of a concealed weapon, in most cases, is NOT a felony. If you cannot quote the law where it says that it is a felony, it should be obvious as to why....because it is NOT a felony. |
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Sec. 24-1.6. Aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. (a) A person commits the offense of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon when he or she knowingly: (1) Carries on or about his or her person or in any vehicles or concealed on or about his or her person except when on his or her land or in his or her abode or fixed place of business any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm; or (2) Carries or possesses on or about his or her person, upon any public street, alley or other public lands within the corporate limits of a city, village or incorporated town, except when an invitee thereon or therein, for the purpose of the display of such weapon or the lawful commerce in weapons, or except when on his or her own land or in his or her own adobe or fixed place of business, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm; and (3) One of the following factors is present: (A) the firearm possessed was uncased, loaded and immediately accessible at the time of the offense; or (B) the firearm possessed was uncased, unloaded and the ammunition for the weapon was immediately accessible at the time of the offense; or (C) the person possessing the firearm has not been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner’s Identification Card; or (D) the person possessing the weapon was previously adjudicated a delinquent minor under the Juvenile Court Act of 1987 for an act this if committed by an adult would be a felony; or (E) the person possessing the weapon was engaged in a misdemeanor violation of the Cannabis Control Act or in a misdemeanor violation of the Illinois controlled Substances Act; or (F) the person possessing the weapon is a member of a street gang or is engaged in street gang related activity, as defined in Section 10 of the Illinois Streetgang Terrorism Omnibus Prevention Act; or (G) the person possessing the weapon had a order of protection issued against him or her within the previous 2 years; or 7 (H) the person possessing the weapon was engaged in the commission or attempted commission of a misdemeanor involving the use or threat of violence against the person or property of another; or (I) the person possessing the weapon was under 21 years of age and in possession of a handgun as defined in Section 24-3, unless the person under 21 is engaged in lawful activities under the Wildlife Code or described in subsection 24-2 (b) (1), (b) (3), or 24-2 (f). (b) “Stun Gun or taser” as used in this Section has the same definition given to it in Section 24-1 of this Code. (c) This Section does not apply to or affect the transportation or possession of weapons that: (i) are broken down in a non-functioning state; or (ii) are nor immediately accessible; or (iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner’s Identification Card. (d) Sentence. Aggravated unlawful use of a weapon is a Class 4 felony; a second or subsequent offense if a Class 2 felony. Aggravated unlawful use of a weapon by a person who has been previously convicted of a felony in this State or another jurisdiction is a Class 2 felony. It IS a felony, sir |
WI actually had it, until a WI state court found the language unconstitutional. The revamped version is coming up in Madison soon. Here's hoping. |
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Interesting. That is not unlawful use of weapons though, that is Aggravated unlawful use of a weapons. The interesting part is the same paragraph is used to describe both crimes. DA's choice or what? I retract my statement, however, the interesting question becomes this..... What constitutes AGGRAVATED unlawful use of weapons if the circumstances are the same for both crimes? |
Man, how old are you. Sometimes you are very well spoken and at other times you sond like you are 18. It's a felony man, I have been invloved in Illinois gun rights my whole life, I come from a very, very pro Second Amendment family and have been fighting the good fight for years. This was a huge, huge fight we lost. I was certain it was 93 or 94 when it happened but I do know remember it was late 94 that the bill was voted on and early 95 it was enacted. I don't want to fight with you brother, you are right on most of the time but when you are wrong, you are wrong. You're a smart guy Tim, just wrong on this one.
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The funny thing is, the prosecutors usually will let violators plead down to a misdemeanor. The felony prrovision is basically there to give the DA the muscle to convince people to plea to a lesser charge and save the court time. The Trib ran a big story last year about a notorious gangbanger known as "Tumor", who had been arrested and convicted of UUW several times, without doing serious prison time. He finally got locked away when he killed an innocent bystander while he was trying to pop a rival criminal. CKMorley |
I know, read my later posts. Apparently unlike every other crime on the books, aggravated unlawful use of a weapon is the same as unlawful use of a weapon...so it's DA's choice, felony or misdemeanor. |
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Just to revive this thread a little bit... In case you guys don't know about it, we have a website DEDICATED to passing CCW in Illinois. We're working very hard, all the time, at this! We post a lot of news, have a big forum, hold events regularly now, and all sorts of stuff. www.ICarry.org Get involved, or your right to bitch about the laws is forfeit ;) We have a gun show coming up December 4th, where we will have an exhibitors table, pass out flyers and other material, and talk to as many people as possible. We'll be doing this sort of thing on a regular basis. Anyone that wants to join us and help out is more than welcome! We even have kickass looking brand new ICarry.org jackets. We also have a meeting coming up on December 10th, in Rockford, IL. It's an informal meeting, BS, eat some food, and shoot some guns. It'll be a good chance to meet everyone around here, and do a little scheming on how we can get some work done. So get involved and join the fight! We're going to be doing some exciting things next year when it warms up...and right now we're getting involved heavily in the governor candidates. |
| Hey you can move to Chicago, get elected to be one of 50 aldermen and presto instant carry permit. You can even pull your handgun out at a councel meeting and wave it around or even go to Wal-Mart and place people under citizens arrest for buying handgun ammo in cook county . It would be a bad joke if it wasn't true. Mike |
Sen. Raushenberger supports CCW for Illinois. IllinoisCarry.com Support concealed carry for Illinois |
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Nationwide Concealed Carry Law Only one guy from IL. is a co-sponsor on this federal legislation I think... Rep Johnson, Timothy V. [IL-15] - 5/12/2005 |
The funny thing is that only the welfare grabbing crowd, or the homo sexual movement is liberal in Chicago. Most business people, police officers, clergy, etc are staunchly conservative. Chicago's media outlets are extremely liberal, perhaps the most liberal media in the country. Illinois is alos a very conservative state. We are being high jacked by welfare grabbers, degenerates, Daley and Jesse Jackson. Illinois didn't elect Obama, Blago, the Chicago Media and Daley did. Although let it be known I sat across the table from Obama in Springfield for SB1195. He voted No. Kirk Dillard, that pond scum, joe quimby assed, soccer mom placating, pseudo-republican voted yes and sold us right down the river. Good thing Richard Pearson from ISRA was there wiping donut glaze off his coat while he wandered the jalls otherwise we may have lost that battle. Whew! 
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