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7/6/2005 8:49:50 PM EDT
...just happen to come across this on another firearms site.

Firearms, Weapons, and Knives Policy
FIREARMS
You may not use PayPal in the purchase or sale of any firearm. This includes all rifles, shotguns, and handguns, whether for use in sporting, as collectibles, or curio and relic (C&R) firearms, and regardless of their present working order. Furthermore, PayPal defines “firearm” consistent with the U.S. Code and, as such, prohibits frames, receivers, or any other serialized firearm components. For more information, please refer to U.S. Code Title 18, Section 921

Exception for Imitation and Non-Powder Guns
PayPal permits the use of its services in the sale of certain properly-conforming replica (imitation) guns, paintball guns, blank guns, and “air-soft” guns. These items must display all markings required by law, must not be able to be readily converted to shoot a lethal projectile, and blank ammunition must not be included in the sale. For more information regarding regulations applicable to the sale of imitation firearms, please refer to U.S. Code Title 15, Section 5001. The sale of imitation guns may be regulated differently outside the U.S., and international buyers and sellers must abide by these laws accordingly.

FIREARM PARTS AND ACCESSORIES
You may not use PayPal to purchase or sell any firearm receivers or frames, components and parts of receivers and frames, or "cut" or "80%" receivers. PayPal also does not permit assault weapon-related parts and accessories, firearm silencers, and kits designed to convert a firearm to have automatic firing capability. This includes the sale of any parts or accessories prohibited for sale by the National Firearms Act or other federal or state law, including items related to short-barreled shotguns or short-barreled rifles, fully automatic weapons, large-capacity magazines, multi-burst trigger activators and camouflaging firearm containers.

For more information about the National Firearms Act (NFA) and its requirements, please refer to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms website.

AMMUNITION
You may not use PayPal to buy or sell high-capacity magazines (those which hold more than 10 rounds), ammunition with propellant (e.g., gunpowder), or blank ammunition. The term "ammunition" means ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm.

DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
You may not use PayPal in the purchase or sale of any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas bomb, grenade, grenade launcher attachment, rocket, missile, mine or similar device. Examples: Molotov cocktails, anti-tank guns (over caliber .50), bazookas, and mortars.

MILITARIA AND ORDNANCE
PayPal prohibits the use of its services in the purchase or sale of equipment or supplies issued to and formerly used by United States Armed Forces that have not been disposed of in accordance with Department of Defense demilitarization policies. Sales of such items may constitute violations of federal law.

Furthermore, you may not use PayPal in conjunction with the sale of ordnance (military weaponry, ammunition, and related parts) unless you can provide official documentation from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) stating that the item is unserviceable or demilitarized. Contact your local ATF office for more details on obtaining such documentation.

WEAPONS
You may not use PayPal in the sale of certain hand weapons that are illegal according to federal or state laws including: nunchaku; brass or other metal knuckles; leaded canes/staffs/crutches/sticks; zip guns; shurikens/ throwing stars; hand grenades or metal replica hand grenades; and billyclubs/batons, sandclubs, sandbags, or slingshots (also known as saps or blackjacks). For any other hand weapons, sellers must make certain that the weapon is legal in all countries in which it will be available for purchase.

STUN GUNS
You may only use PayPal to sell stun guns to the extent permissible by law. Sellers are responsible for reviewing the laws in their location and the location of the buyer and ensuring that sales are legal in both locations before completing such transactions.

KNIVES
In general, you may use PayPal in the legal sale of knives, subject to the following exceptions:

   * Switchblade Knives. You may not use PayPal in the sale of switchblade knives that have a blade over 2 inches. A switchblade knife is defined as any knife that resembles a pocketknife with a blade that can be released automatically or by use of a trigger. Other names for switchblades include spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife, gravity knife, and butterfly knife.

   * Disguised Knives. You may not use PayPal in the sale of knives disguised to look like a harmless item. This includes, but is not limited to: belt buckle knives, cane swords, shobi-zue, lipstick case knives, air gauge knives, and writing pen knives.

Paypal = no weapons
7/7/2005 10:13:09 AM EDT
[#1]
PayPal has been anti-gun for awhile, ever since equally anti-gun eBay bought them.

This is old news.
7/7/2005 10:22:51 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
PayPal has been anti-gun for awhile, ever since equally anti-gun eBay bought them.

This is old news.



true....
7/7/2005 10:35:21 AM EDT
[#3]
Just FYI, this has been here in many, many threads.  Folks here tend to fall in one of four camps:

1)  Their site, their rules - nothing wrong with that...

2)  Sad, but I use them anyway because they're just so convenient...

3)  Screw 'em - I'll use them to pay for gun-related stuff just to spite them...

4)  Paypal/eBay are THE DEVIL!

Not a lot of #1 around here, but a pretty good sampling of #2-4.
7/7/2005 2:54:12 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

2)  Sad, but I use them anyway because they're just so convenient...




I use them a lot when I get stuff in the EE.  They have no idea what I'm buying, so what are they gonna do?





Yep. That's right.  NOTHING.
7/7/2005 2:59:25 PM EDT
[#5]
Jokes on them, used PayPal a few months back to get 15 new AR15 mags from EE  
7/7/2005 7:17:00 PM EDT
[#6]
I suppose the only downside to using them, would be if you had a problem with a transaction, and they later found out that you violated their "rules" and won't help you out, and cancel your account.  I've often wondered if they have some sort of internal word search for the message area or title area or business or user name area, that tries to look for "offenders".
7/13/2005 12:33:51 PM EDT
[#7]
I do not use them at all because I do not want to help support them commies with thier fees.
7/19/2005 5:10:17 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

2)  Sad, but I use them anyway because they're just so convenient...




I use them a lot when I get stuff in the EE.  They have no idea what I'm buying, so what are they gonna do?





Yep. That's right.  NOTHING.




Until you get screwed by a seller; then what will you write on the claim?
Don't say you'll just do a chargeback on your credit card; the terms of use at paypal that you agree to when opening an account states you cannot do a chargeback against them.