Posted: 8/2/2011 5:41:58 PM EDT
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Hey guys and gals!
It is very likely that I will be moving to Nevada from VT (edit - later this year). I've read the NRA fact sheet on gun laws in Nevada, but figured it would be a good idea to get some feedback from people who actually live there. In Vermont, effectively the only law on the books pertaining to firearms is a ban on suppressors (some folks were afraid that people would jack deer with them or something I guess). Other than that, its federal laws only (plus a law about loaded long guns in cars, but who cares?). Am I in for a rude awakening? What's the scoop in Nevada in terms of whats legal and whats not, comparatively? Still trying to figure out how to get all my guns and ammo across the country, as-is. This should be interesting. Thanks for any info! |
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Just avoid Clark County (AKA, Far East L.A.) and you will not see much change.
Need a permit for concealed carry, open carry is legal but subject to harassment in the "Cities". Stick to real Nevada if you can. No loaded long guns here either. No magazine limits except the Fed. limits for birds. Hunting tags for big game are rather annoying, it can take years to draw. All NFA items are legal here. |
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Just avoid Clark County (AKA, Far East L.A.) and you will not see much change. Need a permit for concealed carry, open carry is legal but subject to harassment in the "Cities". Stick to real Nevada if you can. No loaded long guns here either. No magazine limits except the Fed. limits for birds. Hunting tags for big game are rather annoying, it can take years to draw. All NFA items are legal here. There you go again, Richard. Motherfucking Clark County. 
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Oh, Reno has gone pretty libtard of late too, they even voted for Dingy Reid. Some area's now resemble East East Sacramento. That takes care of our "Cities" to avoid. Guess I gotta show some N-S balance!  You'll always be a Bro, because we are both Patriots.
But damn, Bro... I have to live in Clark County (have for over 33 years), and I am trying to make the best of it. 
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When I got here in '89 murder in No. Nevada was fairly rare, seems they were months apart in Reno, and almost unheard of locally.
Not sure what it was like in L.V., unless it's a major scandal or crime we don't usually hear much about it here. Some folk claim it was better when the mob ran the joint, at least "they kept the riff-raff out" and "Kept their customers safe", or so I am told by friends who grew up then and there. Now, Reno seems to have murder as an almost daily occurrence, locally I think we have had more homicide in the last couple of years than the prior two DECADES! All the "Lesser" crimes follow a similar pattern, in proportion. Now ask me why I am not big fan of ANY large "Cities" and overdevelopment. If I had a real choice of where to live, I would be in a town so small I could know everyone in town by their first name. I would like to be in Eureka, maybe Austin. Too bad I see no way to make a living in either of them. It appears the really rural places are damn expensive, look at land prices in Smoky Valley for example. So I guess I am not the only one that sees the sticks as being better. When Clark County dispenses with their feculent "Blue Card" scheme and other "Grandfathered" RKBA infringements I will lighten up on them, but so long as they act like Kalifornia East (and keep trying to steal our northern water), well, they suck.
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Just avoid Clark County (AKA, Far East L.A.) and you will not see much change. Need a permit for concealed carry, open carry is legal but subject to harassment in the "Cities". Stick to real Nevada if you can. No loaded long guns here either. No magazine limits except the Fed. limits for birds. Hunting tags for big game are rather annoying, it can take years to draw. All NFA items are legal here. Oh shit. 
LV is in Clark County... is it really that bad? What's the deal? |
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No, it's not that bad. Specifics:
Handguns are SUPPOSED to be registered. You'll hear a lot about Blue Cards. You get a little blue card for every handgun you have registered in Clark County. Now ask how many of us have any or all of our handguns registered. (Notice I said they're SUPPOSED to be. )
You'll need to take a CCW class and then apply for a CCW permit. Figure about $300 total and you'll have more than enough to cover both. Thankfully the qualification law was recently changed. Shoot a qualifying score with one revolver, you can carry any revolver. Shoot a qualifying score with one semi-auto, you can carry any semi-auto. They will be listed separately on your CCW permit. Lastly and most important; this isn't a law, it's more of a Nevada Hometown Forum rule. You WILL be required to register to vote and you WILL vote for the most conservative candidate in every election in order to balance out all the liberal morons that have infested the place over the past couple of decades. If you don't do that we'll hunt you down and force you to watch a threesome with Nancy Pelosi, Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton. 
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Just avoid Clark County (AKA, Far East L.A.) and you will not see much change. Need a permit for concealed carry, open carry is legal but subject to harassment in the "Cities". Stick to real Nevada if you can. No loaded long guns here either. No magazine limits except the Fed. limits for birds. Hunting tags for big game are rather annoying, it can take years to draw. All NFA items are legal here. Oh shit.
LV is in Clark County... is it really that bad? What's the deal? Stupid anti-freedom local firearm laws which conflict with state law. Such as having to register all of your hand guns. Differing rules on concealed and vehicle carry. I recall there are even some obscure regulations allegedly prohibiting sales of military caliber pistol ammunition. I doubt that last one is actually enforced, unless the city wants to shake down some dealers with the threat of fines. Nevada has a "State Pre-emption" statute, so all cities and counties are SUPPOSED to have the same law, no local variations more restrictive than state law. But CC/LV got an exception in order to retain their local anti-RKBA laws. Apologist always claim the registration helps to ensure stolen firearms get returned to their owners, several threads posted here have repudiated that claim. Nevada has seventeen counties, only one, Clark, has these infringements, which they could do away with if they were not the libtard bastion of our state. Overall Nevada is great, outside Reno will be fine, if you can locate on the rural side of whatever town you find you may delay "Progress" rolling over you longer. If you are not insistent on attending the Opera, or "Clubs" in Reno, a rural property with some acreage should not be too hard to find. One thing others will not mention, you need to honest with yourself, if you have ANY tendency toward addictive behavior, gambling, serious drinking/dope, bimbo's/whores, etc., Nevada will destroy you. We have ALL of those available 24/7, only the dope is illegal, but not so seriously enforced as it used to be. In "the good old days" one dope seed would send you to prison, now, we have "Medical Marijuana" so dope gets winked at. It is claimed LE is really, really, serious about busting the meth heads, but their numbers do not appear to be diminishing. (Apparently true everywhere) A lot of folk retire here, then waste their life saving in the casino's. Our local casino used to at least hire them for minimum wage jobs once they ran out of money, not sure if that's still true with the new owners and crap economy. Just trying to supply an honest answer to the OP, moving is expensive, so something to get right on your first try. |
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No, it's not that bad. Specifics: Handguns are SUPPOSED to be registered. You'll hear a lot about Blue Cards. You get a little blue card for every handgun you have registered in Clark County. Now ask how many of us have any or all of our handguns registered. (Notice I said they're SUPPOSED to be. )
You'll need to take a CCW class and then apply for a CCW permit. Figure about $300 total and you'll have more than enough to cover both. Thankfully the qualification law was recently changed. Shoot a qualifying score with one revolver, you can carry any revolver. Shoot a qualifying score with one semi-auto, you can carry any semi-auto. They will be listed separately on your CCW permit. Lastly and most important; this isn't a law, it's more of a Nevada Hometown Forum rule. You WILL be required to register to vote and you WILL vote for the most conservative candidate in every election in order to balance out all the liberal morons that have infested the place over the past couple of decades. If you don't do that we'll hunt you down and force you to watch a threesome with Nancy Pelosi, Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton. Ok, and what are the penalties for not doing this and getting caught? Felony, misdemeanor, fine, harsh words? 
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Stupid anti-freedom local firearm laws which conflict with state law. Such as having to register all of your hand guns. Differing rules on concealed and vehicle carry. I recall there are even some obscure regulations allegedly prohibiting sales of military caliber pistol ammunition. I doubt that last one is actually enforced, unless the city wants to shake down some dealers with the threat of fines. Nevada has a "State Pre-emption" statute, so all cities and counties are SUPPOSED to have the same law, no local variations more restrictive than state law. But CC/LV got an exception in order to retain their local anti-RKBA laws. Apologist always claim the registration helps to ensure stolen firearms get returned to their owners, several threads posted here have repudiated that claim. Nevada has seventeen counties, only one, Clark, has these infringements, which they could do away with if they were not the libtard bastion of our state. Overall Nevada is great, outside Reno will be fine, if you can locate on the rural side of whatever town you find you may delay "Progress" rolling over you longer. If you are not insistent on attending the Opera, or "Clubs" in Reno, a rural property with some acreage should not be too hard to find. One thing others will not mention, you need to honest with yourself, if you have ANY tendency toward addictive behavior, gambling, serious drinking/dope, bimbo's/whores, etc., Nevada will destroy you.We have ALL of those available 24/7, only the dope is illegal, but not so seriously enforced as it used to be. In "the good old days" one dope seed would send you to prison, now, we have "Medical Marijuana" so dope gets winked at. It is claimed LE is really, really, serious about busting the meth heads, but their numbers do not appear to be diminishing. (Apparently true everywhere) A lot of folk retire here, then waste their life saving in the casino's. Our local casino used to at least hire them for minimum wage jobs once they ran out of money, not sure if that's still true with the new owners and crap economy. Just trying to supply an honest answer to the OP, moving is expensive, so something to get right on your first try. Thanks for bringing that part up. I should be fine. My only "addictions" are already being indulged: guns, coffee, non-whore sex, etc. If I can scratch those itches in Nevada, I'll be just fine! Not big into gambling, drinking or whoring around. I'm kinda boring I guess!
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No, it's not that bad. Specifics: Handguns are SUPPOSED to be registered. You'll hear a lot about Blue Cards. You get a little blue card for every handgun you have registered in Clark County. Now ask how many of us have any or all of our handguns registered. (Notice I said they're SUPPOSED to be. )
You'll need to take a CCW class and then apply for a CCW permit. Figure about $300 total and you'll have more than enough to cover both. Thankfully the qualification law was recently changed. Shoot a qualifying score with one revolver, you can carry any revolver. Shoot a qualifying score with one semi-auto, you can carry any semi-auto. They will be listed separately on your CCW permit. Lastly and most important; this isn't a law, it's more of a Nevada Hometown Forum rule. You WILL be required to register to vote and you WILL vote for the most conservative candidate in every election in order to balance out all the liberal morons that have infested the place over the past couple of decades. If you don't do that we'll hunt you down and force you to watch a threesome with Nancy Pelosi, Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton. Ok, and what are the penalties for not doing this and getting caught? Felony, misdemeanor, fine, harsh words? 12.04.220 Penalty for violation of Sections 12. 04.010––12.04.210. Any person who violates any of the provisions of Sections 12.04.010 through 12.04.210 is guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed six months or by a fine of not to exceed five hundred dollars, or by both. (Ord. 242 § 23, 1965) |
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Where in NV? Unlike VT, it is a big state! Um, yeah I guess I should have been more specific. Sorry about that. Northern Las Vegas outskirts is the target destination. In the vicinity of Nellis AFB more or less. Closer to Nellis=ghetto Keep that in mind and be VERY picky. If you are going to rent, there are plenty of places to rent. I know a couple of guys that have relocated from Nellis that still have homes for rent. They prefer the military folks. |
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Quoted: Closer to Nellis=ghetto Keep that in mind and be VERY picky. If you are going to rent, there are plenty of places to rent. I know a couple of guys that have relocated from Nellis that still have homes for rent. They prefer the military folks. That's good info, thank you. What areas of LV would you say are better? I'm not looking to kick hookers and dealers off my doorstep every morning when I leave for work. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No, it's not that bad. Specifics: Handguns are SUPPOSED to be registered. You'll hear a lot about Blue Cards. You get a little blue card for every handgun you have registered in Clark County. Now ask how many of us have any or all of our handguns registered. (Notice I said they're SUPPOSED to be. )You'll need to take a CCW class and then apply for a CCW permit. Figure about $300 total and you'll have more than enough to cover both. Thankfully the qualification law was recently changed. Shoot a qualifying score with one revolver, you can carry any revolver. Shoot a qualifying score with one semi-auto, you can carry any semi-auto. They will be listed separately on your CCW permit. Lastly and most important; this isn't a law, it's more of a Nevada Hometown Forum rule. You WILL be required to register to vote and you WILL vote for the most conservative candidate in every election in order to balance out all the liberal morons that have infested the place over the past couple of decades. If you don't do that we'll hunt you down and force you to watch a threesome with Nancy Pelosi, Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton. Ok, and what are the penalties for not doing this and getting caught? Felony, misdemeanor, fine, harsh words? 12.04.220 Penalty for violation of Sections 12. 04.010––12.04.210. Any person who violates any of the provisions of Sections 12.04.010 through 12.04.210 is guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed six months or by a fine of not to exceed five hundred dollars, or by both. (Ord. 242 § 23, 1965) Ah, and there it is. That doesn't sound like something I want to deal with. Thanks for digging that up! |
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Closer to Nellis=ghetto Keep that in mind and be VERY picky. If you are going to rent, there are plenty of places to rent. I know a couple of guys that have relocated from Nellis that still have homes for rent. They prefer the military folks. That's good info, thank you. What areas of LV would you say are better? I'm not looking to kick hookers and dealers off my doorstep every morning when I leave for work. If you want to be in the North end of the valley, Aliante should be your starting point, From there West is the nicer area of the North end. |
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Some other points...
Finding a good shooting area in Clark County (Las Vegas) is a challenge. Most of Clark County is designated as a no-shooting zone by the Clark County Commission or the various Federal agencies – especially the Bureau of Land Management. Link to map: http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/closure_maps/closure_maps.Par.43271.File.dat/Closure_shooting.pdf So in Clark County, a moderate to long drive time is needed to get to an acceptable area for rifle, shotgun, or handgun shooting. Clark County does have a new multi-million dollar regional shooting park. But, this shooting park is heavily regulated and monitored. If you want to do some more aggressive shoot and move type shooting, this shooting park is not the place for you. Nevada has been hit exceptionally hard – and I mean hard – by the economic downturn and changing demographics. Nevada has the highest un-employment rate in the country at about 13.5 percent (much higher according to non-governmental sources such as Shadow Statics). All over Nevada – especially in Las Vegas and Reno – many once very nice, new, and up and coming neighborhoods are now not so desirable with many foreclosed homes (home values have fallen 35% to 50% with most home owners with negative or “underwater” mortgages). Many of these properties are derelict with dead landscaping, broken windows, stolen air conditioning units, vandalism, swatters, brown water pools, etc. Many of these foreclosed homes are now used as drug shooting galleries and for drug sales. In the Las Vegas metro area shootings are daily – by both the bad guys and law enforcement. Last year the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department had several officers shot and killed in the line of duty. Example: one officer was shot and killed in his garage during a robbery – home invasion. The officer’s wife and small children were asleep inside the house at the time. In Las Vegas, violent crimes such as home invasions, robberies, drive-bys, etc. are very common. The Reno area has also changed greatly with much more frequent shootings and street crimes such as drive-bys, home invasions, etc. I would strongly suggest that unless you have a job waiting for you here in Nevada, do not come to Nevada – especially Las Vegas or Reno – looking for a job. The usual exceptions would be the high demand medical fields: registered nurse, etc. In Nevada only the Elko area, with its gold mining operations going strong is experiencing good economic conditions. So if you are coming to Nevada, pick the location of your residence very carefully and have a job waiting for you! Have realistic expectations and do not think you are going to move to Nevada and live the 24 / 7 vacation. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Closer to Nellis=ghetto Keep that in mind and be VERY picky. If you are going to rent, there are plenty of places to rent. I know a couple of guys that have relocated from Nellis that still have homes for rent. They prefer the military folks. That's good info, thank you. What areas of LV would you say are better? I'm not looking to kick hookers and dealers off my doorstep every morning when I leave for work. I just moved here in January, stationed at Nellis. I live in the far NW, right north of the 215/95 intersection, and it's nice and quiet. |
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Quoted: Some other points... Finding a good shooting area in Clark County (Las Vegas) is a challenge. Most of Clark County is designated as a no-shooting zone by the Clark County Commission or the various Federal agencies – especially the Bureau of Land Management. Link to map: http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/closure_maps/closure_maps.Par.43271.File.dat/Closure_shooting.pdf So in Clark County, a moderate to long drive time is needed to get to an acceptable area for rifle, shotgun, or handgun shooting. Clark County does have a new multi-million dollar regional shooting park. But, this shooting park is heavily regulated and monitored. If you want to do some more aggressive shoot and move type shooting, this shooting park is not the place for you. Nevada has been hit exceptionally hard – and I mean hard – by the economic downturn and changing demographics. Nevada has the highest un-employment rate in the country at about 13.5 percent (much higher according to non-governmental sources such as Shadow Statics). All over Nevada – especially in Las Vegas and Reno – many once very nice, new, and up and coming neighborhoods are now not so desirable with many foreclosed homes (home values have fallen 35% to 50% with most home owners with negative or "underwater” mortgages). Many of these properties are derelict with dead landscaping, broken windows, stolen air conditioning units, vandalism, swatters, brown water pools, etc. Many of these foreclosed homes are now used as drug shooting galleries and for drug sales. In the Las Vegas metro area shootings are daily – by both the bad guys and law enforcement. Last year the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department had several officers shot and killed in the line of duty. Example: one officer was shot and killed in his garage during a robbery – home invasion. The officer’s wife and small children were asleep inside the house at the time. In Las Vegas, violent crimes such as home invasions, robberies, drive-bys, etc. are very common. The Reno area has also changed greatly with much more frequent shootings and street crimes such as drive-bys, home invasions, etc. I would strongly suggest that unless you have a job waiting for you here in Nevada, do not come to Nevada – especially Las Vegas or Reno – looking for a job. The usual exceptions would be the high demand medical fields: registered nurse, etc. In Nevada only the Elko area, with its gold mining operations going strong is experiencing good economic conditions. So if you are coming to Nevada, pick the location of your residence very carefully and have a job waiting for you! Have realistic expectations and do not think you are going to move to Nevada and live the 24 / 7 vacation. Sir, thank you for the info. I've spent a little time (measured only in weeks) in Nevada and Arizona over the past ten years, and I've always loved it out there. My enthusiasm for moving out that way needs to be tempered by reality, and I think you just gave me a dose of it. This doesn't change my decision to move, but it definitely gives me a more realistic idea of what to expect when the time comes. Thank you for your insight. |
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Some other points... Finding a good shooting area in Clark County (Las Vegas) is a challenge. Most of Clark County is designated as a no-shooting zone by the Clark County Commission or the various Federal agencies – especially the Bureau of Land Management. Link to map: http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/closure_maps/closure_maps.Par.43271.File.dat/Closure_shooting.pdf So in Clark County, a moderate to long drive time is needed to get to an acceptable area for rifle, shotgun, or handgun shooting. You are grossly misreading that map! Just because there is a color on the map, doesn't mean it is closed to shooting! BLM land is NOT closed to shooting as a general rule. If it is that orange-ish color, it is BLM land and it is perfectly legal to shoot there, providing it isn't a conservation area. Other areas of the map, you would want to contact the associated managing organization to determine if/where it is legal to shoot. I'm not familiar with the north side of town (except you need to be careful not to shoot on the indian reservation) but on the south side, you're legal once you're south of the Sloan exit. We tend to shoot off the Lightweight Quarry Road, which is about a ten minute drive south of the city. It's perfectly legal. It's very easy to find a good spot pretty close to town to shoot. We have enough restrictions on us as it is, without adding more artificial ones because we've conditioned ourselves to believe what we're doing is somehow "naughty" and should be restricted. |
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Sabre19,
If you are looking NW-ish for a place to live, keep in mind the big shooting park is at the very north end of Decatur; close proximity to it is handy. It's overall a decent place to shoot, $6 ($7?) a day. I work in the NE, off Craig approaching Nellis. It's definitely not an ideal neighborhood. My office building has 8+' walls topped with razorwire. Keith |