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8/21/2010 4:37:00 PM EDT
just checked our eggs in the icebox and we have some mountain dairy from ffless.  googled them and sure enough, they are on recall...
8/21/2010 8:39:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Dibs on your stuff.
8/22/2010 12:24:01 AM EDT
[#2]
I buy the Cage Free Eggs. I checked my carton stamps and there were no recall numbers.

I have been eating CFE's for years. Although they cost more, I think they are worth a little extra.

JMO.
8/22/2010 5:20:11 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I buy the Cage Free Eggs. I checked my carton stamps and there were no recall numbers.

I have been eating CFE's for years. Although they cost more, I think they are worth a little extra.

JMO.


8/23/2010 5:14:47 AM EDT
[#4]
your new well looks like a crowd pleaser...  
8/23/2010 6:01:08 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I buy the Cage Free Eggs. I checked my carton stamps and there were no recall numbers.

I have been eating CFE's for years. Although they cost more, I think they are worth a little extra.

JMO.


Damn hippies!





Seriously, the cage free are noticeably different. I get them too.
8/23/2010 11:22:19 AM EDT
[#6]
Don't eat eggs that come from people who raise chickens (backyard-style) though...unless you can be assured of a decent and regular supply.



Afterwards, even the $6/dozen cage-free, all-natural, hand-massaged, pampered store-bought eggs taste like pale imitations.




Mmmmm....eggs......
8/23/2010 12:11:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Don't eat eggs that come from people who raise chickens (backyard-style) though...unless you can be assured of a decent and regular supply.

Afterwards, even the $6/dozen cage-free, all-natural, hand-massaged, pampered store-bought eggs taste like pale imitations.

Mmmmm....eggs......


I can vouch for that, sister in law gave us eggs from their chickens in the back yard.  It added a new step to my egg ladder.  
Previously?  
Eggs > Powdered Eggs.
Now:
Backyard Eggs >Store Bought Eggs> Powdered Eggs

I've never tried the cage free eggs at the store.  Might have to try it.

Correction:
Backyard Eggs> Store Bought Eggs> Saw Dust> Powdered Eggs?
8/23/2010 2:53:04 PM EDT
[#8]
I've been lifting weights pretty seriously for 18 years.  In trying to gain/maintain my weight I've consumed no less than nine raw eggs every single day for that while time.  If I haven't died yet, I'm not gonna start worrying about it now.





(Who wants the new safe if I don't make it to the weekend? )
8/24/2010 5:57:56 PM EDT
[#9]
My grandfather had a small (10,000 hen) chicken farm when I was a kid. I spent most of my weekends and all of my summers working on that farm, and I worked in all phases of that farm. I fed them, de-beaked them, collected eggs, slaughtered them, and mucked out the coops and roosts. The hens were raised in large fenced areas until they began laying, and were then transferred to large open coops for the remainder of their egg-laying days, so I guess that by today's standards they would be considered at least "cage-free" if not "free-range". The coops had a cement floor which was covered with a 1 foot thick layer of sawdust that after a year of chicken-shit became a 3-5 inch compacted mass that we mucked out and sold to the local farmers as fertilizer. The roosts also had about a 3-6 inch layer of pure chicken-shit that was prized by local farmers for its fertilizing abilities.

One of my other jobs was to make sure that any chicken that died were removed ASAP, as chicken will readily eat their own, starting with the eyes and assholes, and working inward until anything resembling protein is eaten.

In the decades that we sold eggs both locally, and to distributors, we never had a salmonella outbreak of any kind.

I've got to wonder what kind of conditions the chickens of today are being kept in that this kind of thing can occur.
8/24/2010 9:06:53 PM EDT
[#10]
Good book to read on this subject.

"An Omnivore's dilemma"
8/24/2010 11:04:08 PM EDT
[#11]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYGRTuB_G_4

Just sayin'.
8/25/2010 3:19:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Good book to read on this subject.

"An Omnivore's dilemma"


+1. An excellent read.

For those of you not inclined to read, check out the film Food, Inc.
8/25/2010 6:19:05 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm curious.  They say that one of the transmission methods they are investigating is infected rodents shit in the chicken feed and the infected chickens lay infected eggs.  How do cage free methods avoid this?
8/25/2010 6:20:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good book to read on this subject.

"An Omnivore's dilemma"


+1. An excellent read.

For those of you not inclined to read, check out the film Food, Inc.


And one more by that author,

In defense of food

It's very interesting to see the mechanism of how there came to be so much corn in our food chain. I hate to sound like some jute wearing hippie, but the current food chain is really messed up, and pretty unsustainable. And for really no good reason. Yet another example of government intervention gone wrong.
8/25/2010 7:52:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I'm curious.  They say that one of the transmission methods they are investigating is infected rodents shit in the chicken feed and the infected chickens lay infected eggs.  How do cage free methods avoid this?


I think the real issue is that of hygiene. In commercial battery cage farming, you have several hens jammed into a cage, and cages stacked on top of each other and in long rows. The hens spend their entire lives in those cages: it is where the eat, shit and lay their eggs. So you have a concentration of manure which the hens can't get away from, and which is often difficult to clean. Also, since the hens are so close together, any disease spreads extremely rapidly.

Free range chickens are also healthier in general. The chickens in battery cages simply can't move, to the point that fragile bones are a big problem. An unhealthy chicken simply doesn't have the immune system to battle infection. Not sure how much that played a part of it, but when  you look at the practice, I think you'll be amazed how we don't have more problems than we do.

The farms in question had many violations in the past. I am not sure what those violations were, but if they were failing to clear the manure properly, you could easily have the perfect breeding ground for this sort of problem.

That said, I'm not sure how properly pasteurized eggs can carry the disease to the consumer. I'm not sure who is responsible for the pasteurization, but the place must have been absolutely filthy...