Posted: 12/26/2006 8:01:53 PM EDT
| I have a CCW. I understand all the legal stuff about knives in Clark County. Honestly, If I carry a Spyderco with a 3 1/2 inch blade, is Metro going to give me a ticket ? From what I understand from cops I know, if you have a CCW, they really are now worry about you witha knife. What is your opinion ? |
In Nevada, a Concealed Carry Weapon (CCW) permit is for handguns only. The legal concealable blade length for knives is 3" or less. A knife with a blade length of more than three inches is not a ticket, it is an arrestable category C felony. Hope this helps. |
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Joe, Please clarify. It is my understanding that if any portion of the knife is visible, i.e. the clip, end of the handle, it is not concealed and the "3 inch" limit doesn't apply. Also, is that a Clark County length? I searched the NRS and all I could find was dirk, dagger, etc., with no length specified. |
Like Blazin413 said, concealed is in the eye of the beholder (officer). If they couldn't discern the presence of a 3+" knife, is it concealed? That's a choice made in the field. For the blade lengths: For Clark county: 12.04.180 Concealed weapons prohibited without permit. It is unlawful, within the unincorporated area of Clark County, for any person to carry upon his person a concealed weapon of any description, including a knife with a blade of three inches or more, a gun, pistol, revolver or other firearm, capable of being concealed, without first having received written permission therefor from the sheriff. (Ord. 242 § 18, 1965) Vegas, NLV, and Henderson all have similar provisions, I'm just too lazy to cut and paste right now  Jim's site has links to all of our local So.NV codes. |
In Cali I don't believe you can carry a knife with a blade longer than 1". I remember Ozzy's kid wanting a knife and when he finally got one it had a huge handle and a 1" knife. He was saying that 1" was the maximum. 
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California has no length limit it seems Link To CA Laws And More We need to start a campaign to stop these murderous weapons in that state |
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California has a length law only with regard to autos and concealed fixed blades. There is no limit on the length of a folding knife or a non concealed fixed blade. Of course cities and counties may have their own laws governing this. I can find nothing in Nevada's laws about blade length. Can someone provide a link? |
That's why it's actually called a Concealed Firearms Permit (CFP) in the statute, as well as on the actual permit, and why I refer to it a s a CFP most of the time.
Actually, the three inch limit is a City and County ordinance, and as such can only be charged as a misdemeanor. I've looked through the NRS and have found no limit on the length of pocket knives that may be legally carried. The NRS has an enumerated list of items that are considered a Category C "dangerous or deadly weapon". It specifically includes firearms and explosives. Dirks, daggers, machetes, switchblade knives, blackjack, slungshot, billy, sand-club, sandbag, metal knuckles and a "knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle" are specifically excluded from that list. Since the courts have generally found that the NRS must be construed narrowly, I don't see how a 3-inch-bladed pocket knife could be considered more dangerous than a dirk, dagger, metal knuckles, etc. and thus substantiate a category C felony offense. It would even be a stretch (in my mind at least) to rise to a gross misdemeanor offense, unless the concealed weapon were produced in the course of a robbery or other violent encounter. Any thoughts on that Chiz?? |
All of your interpretations make sense, Jim. On the other hand I know a LEO that hooked up a guy for carrying one of these concealed:  Although the blade length is only 2-5/16", I guess he used the "any other deadly weapon" and cat C felony provisions in NRS. If I am not mistaken I think he got a conviction on the arrest. |
I think there's more to the story than that. If you know the LEO, get the perp's particulars, and we can look up the case online. |
Jim, I'm sure there is more to the story as well. The next time I talk to him I'll ask him if he is willing to give me the case number. Joe |
Nothing terribly insightful. I know that there have been some cases (or a case?) that has defined what a dirk and dagger is, and there are some specific details that were listed in that case. I had the cite, but can't remember where i saved it  Don't forget that there are many things that have an ordinary, non-violent use that can be deemed a deadly weapon--a bat, hammer, car, etc., which are not defined as such in the NRS. These are usually enhancements to crimes, so you'd usually be up to no good to begin with prior to having the enhancement kick in. |
It was probably Knight v. State, 116 Nev. 140, 993 P.2d 67 (Nev. 02/03/2000) Bradvica v. State, 104 Nev. 475, 760 P.2d 139 (Nev. 8/31/1988) discusses how to measure blade length, and specifically states that a common pocketknife is not a dirk or dagger. |
You don't need a case number, just his name. Blackstone will let you look up the records. It is public info., so it is out there for everyone. BTW, the only close one I had that they went on for CCW was a butterfly knife. Had a 5" blade or so. It didn't really matter, the guy had an attempted murder warrant anyways. |
There's nothing in the NRS that equates any OOS permit with Nevada's. Bottom line, if you want to carry concealed in Nevada, You need a Nevada Permit. |
Based on my reading of the NRS, it's OK. YMMV
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Oops! You're right, I got NV mixed up with TX. I move around too much and got confused between what state I'm living in. >_O TX CHL does not allow knife carry, like NV's. But FL's does allow knife carry. But you can't carry a blade in TX with FL's even though TX recognizes FL's, including nonresidents... Sorry for mixup! |
Anyone know where i can buy a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sand-club, sandbag?
This may seem like splitting hairs, but it boils down to common sense. The issue is concealed, because if it's not, blade length isn't an issue. Do you have a shirt over your exposed knife? jacket? An example i can give was a few years ago, a client had a pen gun clipped into his shirt pocket. Plainly visible, by about 1.5" but was it visible in such a way that someone could reasonably determine what it was? Obviously not. I can't remember much of the other details, but the pen gun wasn't discovered until he was booked and the pen inventoried. |
The internet is full of them.... blackjacks rock!!! All the good violent movies have them You can conceal a weapon while it is still somewhat visible. It must be identifiable as a weapon. Ask yourself, can you see the weapon?? Does it look like a weapon?? Would a jury be able to see your point of view or are you using your ultra-paranoid way of thinking in order to say that anyone would be able to identify it?? Had a neat one a few months ago. Moron bought some huge 13" blade Bowie style knife from Harbor freight. Bought some leather string and tied it into his jacket, so he could reach behind his head and pull the knife. Now, that sounds like an easy case of CCW, but the DA didn't want to push it and went with the county ordinance instead. It really didn't matter, he had about 20 other felonies pending, 5 of which were added by the DA. |