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4/9/2006 9:13:00 PM EDT
I guess this happend at Davis-Monthan AFB.  Story said 2 illegal Mexicans were drunk and high when they ran the gate.  Drugs and a gun were found in the vehicle.  Neither were wearing a seatbelt and hit the barrier at 50 mph and exited the vehicle through the windshield.

We had one at Nellis do that in a Dodge Caravan a few weeks ago.  The barriers work.



4/9/2006 9:15:12 PM EDT
[#1]
the same treatment should be mandatory for all illegals.
4/9/2006 9:19:15 PM EDT
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the same treatment should be mandatory for all illegals.



+1

That or the on-foot equivalent should have happened about 50 yards over the border.
4/10/2006 8:31:29 AM EDT
[#3]
Those are actually the smaller barriers...

The bigger ones are less forgiving.
4/10/2006 11:12:23 AM EDT
[#4]
WTF? I don't see a single round fired into that vehicle. Anyone blowing through the gate like that of any US military base should have been blasted long before even hitting the barrier
4/10/2006 11:32:35 AM EDT
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WTF? I don't see a single round fired into that vehicle. Anyone blowing through the gate like that of any US military base should have been blasted long before even hitting the barrier



Fuck waiting to blast them when they try to run the gate.

They should have been blasted as they illegally crossed the border.

Illegal =
4/10/2006 12:41:44 PM EDT
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WTF? I don't see a single round fired into that vehicle. Anyone blowing through the gate like that of any US military base should have been blasted long before even hitting the barrier



Don't think the M9 would be a good choice to shoot at a
moving vehicle when other people are around.
4/10/2006 1:03:53 PM EDT
[#7]
I know a contractor that can fix that barrier cheap.

The barriers are kind of a feel good look good measure at most AF bases anyway. 50 yards down the perimeter you can probably find a nice stout chain link fence to go through instead.  I'm thinking they are really there to keep the liberty paarty (or AF equivalent)  from hitting a rent-a-cop at the gate and running up their Workers Comp costs.
4/10/2006 6:27:42 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
WTF? I don't see a single round fired into that vehicle. Anyone blowing through the gate like that of any US military base should have been blasted long before even hitting the barrier



Don't think the M9 would be a good choice to shoot at a
moving vehicle when other people are around.



It is a fine choice. Risk of overpentration is slim.

The round will probably fragment or at least have a displaced trajectory if you hit the windshiled.

As long as you are on target, a car is a good back drop
4/10/2006 6:33:50 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
WTF? I don't see a single round fired into that vehicle. Anyone blowing through the gate like that of any US military base should have been blasted long before even hitting the barrier



Don't think the M9 would be a good choice to shoot at a
moving vehicle when other people are around.



It is a fine choice. Risk of overpentration is slim.

The round will probably fragment or at least have a displaced trajectory if you hit the windshiled.

As long as you are on target, a car is a good back drop



Yeah if you think the M9 is bad, I manned a 249 at one of the various gates for about four months. after 9/11.
4/12/2006 12:08:38 PM EDT
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Wasn't your back stop the Generals house?  
4/12/2006 5:34:21 PM EDT
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Wasn't your back stop the Generals house?  





4/12/2006 7:54:30 PM EDT
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Original News Story

Tucson police reported Wednesday that Lopez-Sanchez was found in possession of a white, powdery substance believed to be cocaine. Beneath his feet, officers found a loaded .45-caliber revolver, police said.

- white stuff could of been maybe concrete or something? right guys? right?

another interesting article with a poll in the bottom

Nevadans are split when it comes to the immigration debate. That's according to a poll by the Las Vegas Review-Journal. The newspaper asked for the opinion of 625 registered voters.

   * 35-percent favored tightening border security and deporting illegal immigrants.
   * 28-percent supported allowing illegal immigrants to stay in the U.S., but said they should be required to pay fines, back taxes and learn english.
   * 22-percent favored creating a guest worker program that will allow them to work and eventually apply for permanent legal residency.

- i for one like hearing actual solutions ( and saying shoot them all does not count
4/12/2006 9:19:19 PM EDT
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Wasn't your back stop the Generals house?  



Yeah  Why?  Do you see a problem with that?
4/14/2006 12:56:18 PM EDT
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No problem here. It was just proof of what kind of morons we worked for then and now. Its just like in Kuwait how I had to rant and rave to get them to authorize me moving the MK-19 overwatch from where my backstop was, 4 fully loaded AC-130 gun ships.  I know I don't need to get started now. I love my job, I really do. If I keep telling myself that I know I'll feel better.
4/16/2006 10:47:22 PM EDT
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the same treatment should be mandatory for all illegals.




you are sooo intolerant.  they are just here to do the jobs that americans won't do.  we need to embrase them. remember your family was imigrants to.  and dont use the word illegal alian it is descrminatory and should be banned!  we need to think of them as "our hardworking friends from the south"  
4/16/2006 11:29:27 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
the same treatment should be mandatory for all illegals.




you are sooo intolerant.  they are just here to do the jobs that americans won't do.  we need to embrase them. remember your family was imigrants to.  and dont use the word illegal alian it is descrminatory and should be banned!  we need to think of them as "our hardworking friends from the south"  



OK, I will take the troll bait.  Ha ha, that was funny.  Now admit you were just fucking with us, please.
4/16/2006 11:55:26 PM EDT
[#17]
Now now vulgarity is no way to have a meaningful discussion.  It really is not they’re fault.  If the signs were in Spanish this would never have happened.  We really need our hard working friends from the south.  If they were not here trying to make a better life for they’re families we would all be paying $8.00 for a head of Lettuce.  All we ask is that they be given the same dignity as every other hard working American.  And once they are citizens with drivers licenses they will start paying taxes and will go back home once they’re 5 years are up
4/17/2006 8:18:09 AM EDT
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5 years are up and they are then illegal, so they will go home??

OK....I believe that one. Maybe the Kali Kool Aid they have been giving you guys has truly washed out all of your brain cells and you now fully embrace the flower child Love philosophy.

BTW, how is it not their fault?? Do they not CHOOSE to come here illegally?

You probably also blame society for any urban crime as the criminals are a product of society and it isn't their fault either.........what a great liberal concept
4/17/2006 9:46:39 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
the same treatment should be mandatory for all illegals.




you are sooo intolerant.  they are just here to do the jobs that americans won't do.  we need to embrase them. remember your family was imigrants to.  and dont use the word illegal alian it is descrminatory and should be banned!  we need to think of them as "our hardworking friends from the south"  



Ya -right, My family came from Italy and worked for 50 years before being established.
The Irish and Italians and others came legal like-through NYC not like some dogs running over borders with no care of the law in the soon to be country.
Most Cans' come illegal, should be open to Police and Citizen’s arrest imho, and should be immediately deported with the Mexican Govt. paying for all fees associated with the arrests and deportations. If Mexico refuses, we should hit them with trade restrictions.
You can turn in someone commiting fraud to the IRS for a reward but you can not get a blasted INS agent to deport some illegal who will suck way more from the system than tax perp anyday!
4/17/2006 11:02:47 AM EDT
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Now now vulgarity is no way to have a meaningful discussion.  It really is not they’re fault.  If the signs were in Spanish this would never have happened.  We really need our hard working friends from the south.  If they were not here trying to make a better life for they’re families we would all be paying $8.00 for a head of Lettuce.  All we ask is that they be given the same dignity as every other hard working American.  And once they are citizens with drivers licenses they will start paying taxes and will go back home once they’re 5 years are up



Please, don't ever move to NV. Stay in CA...hopefully the San Andreas will give way soon and we won't have to worry about the libs in CA anymore.
4/17/2006 11:18:15 AM EDT
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Hey, bc
new avatar?? I like it!........and I'm anxious to invest in some "NV beachfront property"!!
4/17/2006 11:33:51 AM EDT
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Please, don't ever move to NV. Stay in CA...hopefully the San Andreas will give way soon and we won't have to worry about the libs in CA anymore.



He's being sarcastic. I talked to FlieFish lst night after I threw up the troll emoticon.
Go look at meansteves post in the "Cuacasion has to donate" thread. It's very wikinteresing.
4/17/2006 12:08:24 PM EDT
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Aww crap you caught me  hock.gif I am trying to get a job in Vegas so I can move my family out of the Peoples republic of CaliFuckya.  I have to keep an eye on the news because when the Mexicans want to have high school ditch day it takes me an extra 10 minutes to get to work because they are walking in the streets and holding up traffic while I am paying tax out the ass for they’re education.  If one of them gets hit by a car I pay for the hospital and they’re lawsuit.  If I get hit by one of them I am shit out of luck... I am not t Juan... now I am Enrique, Juan went back to Mexico.  You guys have no idea just how bad it is here.  We have about 5 million of them (no shit 5,000,000) and about 20 million morons that want to embrace they’re diversity with tolerance.  I need to get the F out of here so I can drop the mag in my ar-10

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4/17/2006 1:34:41 PM EDT
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Ohhhh, I gotcha....pardon my hostility at my former state of residence. Wikianger.

Whew, glad Filefish isn't one of the CA hippies.

Hee hee, yes, new avatar citizen2...thanks. Wouldn't mind some beachfront property myself.
4/17/2006 3:43:54 PM EDT
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Now now vulgarity is no way to have a meaningful discussion.  It really is not they’re fault.  If the signs were in Spanish this would never have happened.  We really need our hard working friends from the south.  If they were not here trying to make a better life for they’re families we would all be paying $8.00 for a head of Lettuce.  All we ask is that they be given the same dignity as every other hard working American.  And once they are citizens with drivers licenses they will start paying taxes and will go back home once they’re 5 years are up



Hey, at least you are a funny troll.

Edit:  Shoulda read to the end of the thread.


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Aww crap you caught me   I am trying to get a job in Vegas so I can move my family out of the Peoples republic of CaliFuckya.  I have to keep an eye on the news because when the Mexicans want to have high school ditch day it takes me an extra 10 minutes to get to work because they are walking in the streets and holding up traffic while I am paying tax out the ass for they’re education.  If one of them gets hit by a car I pay for the hospital and they’re lawsuit.  If I get hit by one of them I am shit out of luck... I am not t Juan... now I am Enrique, Juan went back to Mexico.  You guys have no idea just how bad it is here.  We have about 5 million of them (no shit 5,000,000) and about 20 million morons that want to embrace they’re diversity with tolerance.  I need to get the F out of here so I can drop the mag in my ar-10

....................................   Click here to send a brick!!!