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5/17/2014 5:33:34 PM EDT
I stopped at a brat stand today.   High school kid took the order.   He could not add up the brat, cheeseburger, and soda.  Then once he was told how much it was he had no idea how to make change.   Has math in public schools fallen so far the kids cannot do simple addition and subtraction?
5/17/2014 6:13:34 PM EDT
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Or, not to be harsh, but he could just be dumb. It happens.
5/17/2014 6:23:00 PM EDT
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I stopped at a brat stand today.   High school kid took the order.   He could not add up the brat, cheeseburger, and soda.  Then once he was told how much it was he had no idea how to make change.   Has math in public schools fallen so far the kids cannot do simple addition and subtraction?
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With the electronic age, I- everything's and spell check, it makes people lazy. Why think when a machine can do it for you?
5/17/2014 7:46:15 PM EDT
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It just surprise me.  I have been making change since I had a paper route when I was a kid.  From the look on the kids face he had no clue what to do.
5/17/2014 7:53:35 PM EDT
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It's not a common skill anymore.
5/17/2014 8:39:26 PM EDT
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They don't need to know how to make change. The EBT/welfare system will take care of everything for them. The ever growing population of stupid society leeches is sickening.  My teachers wouldn't have allowed this decline in the education system.  I must assume they are all rolling in their graves.
5/18/2014 12:38:17 AM EDT
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You would think making change would be a life skill that is taught.
5/18/2014 9:45:10 AM EDT
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It's really sad. My sister can't read a regular wall clock or watch. It must be digital. After I graduated in 2007 my highschool changed all of the old wall clocks to digital clocks.
5/18/2014 3:31:40 PM EDT
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I've had to teach a few folks how to make/count back change. It's sickening.  
The look when you give say $21.50 for a bill that's $16.50 so you can get a single $5 bill vs 4 singles throws them for a loop as well.
5/18/2014 3:57:21 PM EDT
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My kids (1st and 2nd) are taught how to read analog clocks and count money/make change in Waukesha county.  Cursive too.  Where do you guys live that this isn't being taught anymore?  
5/18/2014 7:02:30 PM EDT
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It's really sad. My sister can't read a regular wall clock or watch. It must be digital. After I graduated in 2007 my highschool changed all of the old wall clocks to digital clocks.
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Cripes!
(Back in my day, we had to be able to read sundials!)
5/18/2014 7:36:04 PM EDT
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The brat stand was in Lomira.  It was being ran by a church group, not sure where they were from.
5/19/2014 2:11:27 AM EDT
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My kids (1st and 2nd) are taught how to read analog clocks and count money/make change in Waukesha county.  Cursive too.  Where do you guys live that this isn't being taught anymore?  






The brat stand was in Lomira.  It was being ran by a church group, not sure where they were from.


Just a guess, but was it the one by Midwestern Shooting Supply?  They seem to do good business, there's usually a crowd around every time I go there. Maybe it was the kids first day and he was nervous?  



 
5/19/2014 3:37:26 AM EDT
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At my kids school book fare they had a food stand.  The cashiers were three 5th graders.  I was actually impressed with their math skills.  They where seeing which one of them could tally the items and calculate change first.  They were spot on.

Maybe that kid was having a slow day.
5/19/2014 4:45:45 AM EDT
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I can't make change quickly (but if I was a cashier I'd certainly pick up the ability). I program machines to do all of my math

I don't care about the average person, but if you're going to act as a money man you might want to learn how to count it quickly.
5/19/2014 5:58:12 AM EDT
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I covered a cash register for a few years and learned how to make change early on.












We had a gal get hit by a quick change artist.  He got about $200 out of her.

















 
5/19/2014 6:24:14 AM EDT
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Just a guess, but was it the one by Midwestern Shooting Supply?  They seem to do good business, there's usually a crowd around every time I go there. Maybe it was the kids first day and he was nervous?  
 
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My kids (1st and 2nd) are taught how to read analog clocks and count money/make change in Waukesha county.  Cursive too.  Where do you guys live that this isn't being taught anymore?  



The brat stand was in Lomira.  It was being ran by a church group, not sure where they were from.

Just a guess, but was it the one by Midwestern Shooting Supply?  They seem to do good business, there's usually a crowd around every time I go there. Maybe it was the kids first day and he was nervous?  
 

You are right every weekend a different group runs it for their benefit.  I usually stop in for a brat if i am in the area.
5/19/2014 9:17:15 AM EDT
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I covered a cash register for a few years and learned how to make change early on.

We had a gal get hit by a quick change artist.  He got about $200 out of her.


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The key to a quick change artist's success is a distraction. The dude in the video has his on top of his head. I'm an old fart living in "redneck" country, so I don't know what that hair style is called and have only seen it on TV... but I'd have a hard time keeping a straight face dealing with a guy who looks like a porcupine is sitting on his head with it's ass in the air.
5/19/2014 6:44:51 PM EDT
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When every school that I know of is insisting on every kid having a laptop or iPad, the OP's issue doesn't surprise me in the least.  We've spent so much money on our education system, but it's done nothing but stagnate.  That, and parents treat their local school district as a babysitter.
5/20/2014 6:39:01 AM EDT
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When every school that I know of is insisting on every kid having a laptop or iPad, the OP's issue doesn't surprise me in the least.  We've spent so much money on our education system, but it's done nothing but stagnate.  That, and parents treat their local school district as a babysitter.
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This is the truth.
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When every school that I know of is insisting on every kid having a laptop or iPad, the OP's issue doesn't surprise me in the least.  We've spent so much money on our education system, but it's done nothing but stagnate.  That, and parents treat their local school district as a babysitter.



This is the truth.

Mines in Kindergarten, they have Ipads in the classroom. I didn't get an Ipad until last year...
5/20/2014 8:03:27 AM EDT
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I stopped at a brat stand today.   High school kid took the order.   He could not add up the brat, cheeseburger, and soda.  Then once he was told how much it was he had no idea how to make change.   Has math in public schools fallen so far the kids cannot do simple addition and subtraction?
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Why blame school?  Did the kid put the work in while at school to gain those skills?  Do his parents reinforce the importance of education?
5/20/2014 9:15:44 AM EDT
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Why blame school?  Did the kid put the work in while at school to gain those skills?  Do his parents reinforce the importance of education?
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I stopped at a brat stand today.   High school kid took the order.   He could not add up the brat, cheeseburger, and soda.  Then once he was told how much it was he had no idea how to make change.   Has math in public schools fallen so far the kids cannot do simple addition and subtraction?


Why blame school?  Did the kid put the work in while at school to gain those skills?  Do his parents reinforce the importance of education?

You also have a point here. Like someone said above, a lot of parents are treating school as a daycare and don't care how their kids do, as long as they go.
Might be a reason MTV has all those teen pregnancy shows running all the time...
5/20/2014 11:15:10 AM EDT
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You also have a point here. Like someone said above, a lot of parents are treating school as a daycare and don't care how their kids do, as long as they go.
Might be a reason MTV has all those teen pregnancy shows running all the time...
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I stopped at a brat stand today.   High school kid took the order.   He could not add up the brat, cheeseburger, and soda.  Then once he was told how much it was he had no idea how to make change.   Has math in public schools fallen so far the kids cannot do simple addition and subtraction?


Why blame school?  Did the kid put the work in while at school to gain those skills?  Do his parents reinforce the importance of education?

You also have a point here. Like someone said above, a lot of parents are treating school as a daycare and don't care how their kids do, as long as they go.
Might be a reason MTV has all those teen pregnancy shows running all the time...


I completely agree.  However, on the flip side, my kids have at LEAST 1 hour of homework every night.  They did in K also, still do in 1st and 2nd.  If I don't sign their mandatory 20 minutes of reading every night, I get a nasty gram from the teacher.  Guess what?  My kids know their stuff.  I make sure they do, always have.  Do they need to do 1 hour of homework every night and do I need to be held accountable if their sheet comes back not signed?  No, "I" don't.  My kids don't "need" to do it either unless I feel they do.  

But, some parents don't go the extra mile to teach their kids so the "mandatory" homework is put in place.  Guess what............. the parents that need to step up aren't the sort of people to care about signing the sheets anyway.   "gasp........"  Shit, my little girl missed the first 5 months of school this year (two months of which she was in a coma) and misses half of the school week as her schedule dictates.  She's STILL well above average in her class (and it's a good school).  Hum.......... I wonder how that happened (disclaimer, she did have a tutor for 2 hours/week for a month which did help).

Throw in t-ball, gymnastics, soccer etc which takes up an hour/night there is no time between the end of school and bed time.  

I'm in my early 30s and don't remember having homework (besides projects) until 5th grade or so.
5/20/2014 12:10:17 PM EDT
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I completely agree.  However, on the flip side, my kids have at LEAST 1 hour of homework every night.  They did in K also, still do in 1st and 2nd.  If I don't sign their mandatory 20 minutes of reading every night, I get a nasty gram from the teacher.  Guess what?  My kids know their stuff.  I make sure they do, always have.  Do they need to do 1 hour of homework every night and do I need to be held accountable if their sheet comes back not signed?  No, "I" don't.  My kids don't "need" to do it either unless I feel they do.  

But, some parents don't go the extra mile to teach their kids so the "mandatory" homework is put in place.  Guess what............. the parents that need to step up aren't the sort of people to care about signing the sheets anyway.   "gasp........"  Shit, my little girl missed the first 5 months of school this year (two months of which she was in a coma) and misses half of the school week as her schedule dictates.  She's STILL well above average in her class (and it's a good school).  Hum.......... I wonder how that happened (disclaimer, she did have a tutor for 2 hours/week for a month which did help).

Throw in t-ball, gymnastics, soccer etc which takes up an hour/night there is no time between the end of school and bed time.  

I'm in my early 30s and don't remember having homework (besides projects) until 5th grade or so.
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I stopped at a brat stand today.   High school kid took the order.   He could not add up the brat, cheeseburger, and soda.  Then once he was told how much it was he had no idea how to make change.   Has math in public schools fallen so far the kids cannot do simple addition and subtraction?


Why blame school?  Did the kid put the work in while at school to gain those skills?  Do his parents reinforce the importance of education?

You also have a point here. Like someone said above, a lot of parents are treating school as a daycare and don't care how their kids do, as long as they go.
Might be a reason MTV has all those teen pregnancy shows running all the time...


I completely agree.  However, on the flip side, my kids have at LEAST 1 hour of homework every night.  They did in K also, still do in 1st and 2nd.  If I don't sign their mandatory 20 minutes of reading every night, I get a nasty gram from the teacher.  Guess what?  My kids know their stuff.  I make sure they do, always have.  Do they need to do 1 hour of homework every night and do I need to be held accountable if their sheet comes back not signed?  No, "I" don't.  My kids don't "need" to do it either unless I feel they do.  

But, some parents don't go the extra mile to teach their kids so the "mandatory" homework is put in place.  Guess what............. the parents that need to step up aren't the sort of people to care about signing the sheets anyway.   "gasp........"  Shit, my little girl missed the first 5 months of school this year (two months of which she was in a coma) and misses half of the school week as her schedule dictates.  She's STILL well above average in her class (and it's a good school).  Hum.......... I wonder how that happened (disclaimer, she did have a tutor for 2 hours/week for a month which did help).

Throw in t-ball, gymnastics, soccer etc which takes up an hour/night there is no time between the end of school and bed time.  

I'm in my early 30s and don't remember having homework (besides projects) until 5th grade or so.


Yep, i get the homework and book reading sheets every day also. I make sure she does it all every day. Gotta teach them early on so they don't end up on MTV