Posted: 4/25/2014 7:00:44 AM EDT
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Any counter protests organised? The event and breakfast signal the beginning of Mayor Barrett’s "Ceasefire Week.” Other events for the week are below:
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The Community Forum on Gun Violence should be a good one to attend. Afterall, it's not the gangbangers responsible for violent crimes, it the guns. Gangbaners will always be gangbangers. Take away the guns, the gangbangers will use swords. There will be news stories about drive-by beheadings. Instead of Community Forum on Gun Violence, it'll be Community Forum on Blade Violence. Then they'll demand to take away all sharp bladed instruments, and there'll be drive-by clubbings. Ban baseball bats, for the children. And so on. They will never realize that it's the criminals, not the objects used by criminals, because they'll always hear the cries of "my baby's a good boy, he didn't do nuffin". |
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Quoted: Any counter protests organised? The event and breakfast signal the beginning of Mayor Barrett’s "Ceasefire Week.” Other events for the week are below:
The people on "his side" will continue shooting one another throughout the weekend. That's a pretty good counter protest.
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A cease fire isn't needed in the ghetto......they just need more ammo, and the skills to aim better. The ammo shortage is slowing the thinning of the herd.....seems like things will never get better there. Being a non minority, there isn't much I can do.....it's a minority problem, that will have to be fixed by minorities.
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Couldn't see how much they're offering at the buyback, anybody know? Quoted:
Couldn't see how much they're offering at the buyback, anybody know? http://metromilwaukee.org/2014/05/turn-in-a-gun-in-honor-of-ceasefire-week-on-saturday-and-you-could-get-paid/ If you’d like to take part in the Ceasefire Community Walk (one mile), it begins at Tabernacle Community Baptist Church, 2500 W. Medford Ave. in Milwaukee starting at 9 a.m. on Saturday, May 17th.
The gun buy-back program is set for the same day (Saturday) at the same location — Tabernacle Community Baptist Church. The gun buy-back program will be held from 10 a.m. until 2 p.m. $53,000 was raised for the gun buy-back program. Here’s the breakdown of what you’ll receive for various weapons: $50 bank card for the return of a shotgun or rifle $100 bank card for the return of a handgun $200 bank card for the return of an assault weapon I've got a junker I'll be bringing in. |
If they are doing a buy back and will give $100 or so, I'd love to take an airsoft pistol apart and take it to them in a ziplock bag. Tell then it's one of those evil plastic guns developed by the Germans that can be snuck through metal detectors. 
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I don't have current info on the WCI member buyback (it's not a official WCI event), but some are taking it seriously, with tables and signs.
There is also an open carry picnic planned in Oconomowoc that day, but I don't know if it's going forward since the chief announced he won't enforce it, and the city is backing off. As for bringing in airsoft, one guy did that at the last one-purchased 7 $15 airsoft/BB pistols brand new, turned them in for gift cards at $50 each. |
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Maybe give some of our ORD collectors a shot at that before you dump it. Quoted:
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I have an expended AT-4 tube and some old broken airsoft pistols. I seriously need to hit a buyback at some point. Maybe give some of our ORD collectors a shot at that before you dump it. Oh hell yeah. But if he does turn it in, it's a guarantee that it will be in the picture that will be part of the story that that's in the newspaper & TV. |
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I'm in no rush too, but I think it'd be hilarious to see on the news and to get money for it to boot. I'd drop their sad little jaws and tell them a story about the time I used them to breach Uncle Ho's gay bathhouse in Saigon in '65. They don't make SEALs like that anymore!
It's pretty much useless at the moment (for what I wanted to do with it). It's missing the end caps and the flip up sight is busted off. If someone wants to pony up for a beat up fiberglass tube let's see the offers roll in
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The drop-off site will be at the Tabernacle Community Baptist Church on Medford Avenue from 10 a.m.-2 p.m.
People will receive a $50 bank card for turning in a shotgun or rife, a $100 bank card for the return of a handgun and a $200 bank card for an assault rife. Rules: --Firearms must be unloaded, transported in the trunk of vehicle or carried in a fastened gun box or securely tied package --Magazine must be outside of firearm --Ammunition will not be accepted --Gun transfers to law enforcement only --Assault weapons as defined by Wisconsin law --Several firearms may be surrendered by an individual, compensation only for a maximum of three Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/milwaukee-leaders-announce-gun-buyback-program/25945608#ixzz31dOg8t51 Wait a minute................... I just re-read that and noticed something. Aren't churches "gun free zones"? 
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I'm in no rush too, but I think it'd be hilarious to see on the news and to get money for it to boot. I'd drop their sad little jaws and tell them a story about the time I used them to breach Uncle Ho's gay bathhouse in Saigon in '65. They don't make SEALs like that anymore! It's pretty much useless at the moment (for what I wanted to do with it). It's missing the end caps and the flip up sight is busted off. If someone wants to pony up for a beat up fiberglass tube let's see the offers roll in I wonder how much they'll pay for a DD? 
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The drop-off site will be at the Tabernacle Community Baptist Church on Medford Avenue from 10 a.m.-2 p.m. People will receive a $50 bank card for turning in a shotgun or rife, a $100 bank card for the return of a handgun and a $200 bank card for an assault rife. Rules: --Firearms must be unloaded, transported in the trunk of vehicle or carried in a fastened gun box or securely tied package --Magazine must be outside of firearm --Ammunition will not be accepted --Gun transfers to law enforcement only --Assault weapons as defined by Wisconsin law --Several firearms may be surrendered by an individual, compensation only for a maximum of three Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/milwaukee-leaders-announce-gun-buyback-program/25945608#ixzz31dOg8t51 Wait a minute................... I just re-read that and noticed something. Aren't churches "gun free zones"? Nope. Only if its with a school or otherwise posted. |
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IS there a definition of assault weapon in WI law? Quoted:
IS there a definition of assault weapon in WI law? Not in current law, but there was one in a proposed bill.... From AB 222 2013 Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau
Generally, current law does not prohibit the possession, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon. This bill bans the transportation, purchase, possession, or transfer of an assault weapon and specifically defines "assault weapon" for the purpose of the ban. <snip> 941.285 Possession of assault weapons. (1) In this section: AB222,3,1515 (a) "Assault weapon" means any of the following: 1. A semiautomatic, center-fire, or pump-action rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A pistol grip. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. f. A grenade launcher or a flare launcher. g. A flash suppressor. h. A forward pistol grip. 2. A semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition. 3. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches. 4. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. 5. A semiautomatic shotgun that has any of the following: a. A pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip and a folding or telescoping stock. b. A fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds. c. An ability to accept a detachable magazine. 6. A shotgun with a revolving cylinder. 7. A conversion kit or parts from which an assault weapon can be assembled if all of the kit or parts are in the control of the same person. (am) "Detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding device, the function of which is to deliver one or more ammunition cartridges into the firing chamber, that can be removed from the firearm without any tool, bullet, or ammunition cartridge. (b) "Firearms dealer" has the meaning given in s. 175.35 (1) (ar). (c) 1. "Large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device that has the capacity to accept more than 7 rounds. 2. "Large-capacity magazine" does not include any of the following: a. A 22-caliber tube ammunition feeding device. b. A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm. (cg) "Muzzle brake" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to reduce recoil. (cr) "Muzzle compensator" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to control muzzle movement. (d) "Rifle" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (a). (e) "Semiautomatic" means that the firearm is a repeating firearm that requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge and that uses a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and to place another unfired cartridge into the chamber. (f) "Shotgun" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (d). |
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3 $27 AK receiver blanks, $81. 3 pieces of scrap pipe, scrap springs and random chunks of metal taped on, free. Rough cut pieces of scrap 2x4 coated with left over poly, free. $600 from libtard gun grabbers and a smile on my face? Priceless. You forgot the black paint. 
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3 $27 AK receiver blanks, $81. 3 pieces of scrap pipe, scrap springs and random chunks of metal taped on, free. Rough cut pieces of scrap 2x4 coated with left over poly, free. $600 from libtard gun grabbers and a smile on my face? Priceless. I've got a MIG welder that can be used to make it look somewhat more "real". I even know how to use it now (Thanks polymorpheus!). Just sayin' 
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3 $27 AK receiver blanks, $81. 3 pieces of scrap pipe, scrap springs and random chunks of metal taped on, free. Rough cut pieces of scrap 2x4 coated with left over poly, free. $600 from libtard gun grabbers and a smile on my face? Priceless. I like the cut of your jib. Gives me something to do with those bent flats 
ETA: waitaminute, it's this saturday. I need ot get cracking. |
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Quoted: I've got a MIG welder that can be used to make it look somewhat more "real". I even know how to use it now (Thanks polymorpheus!). Just sayin' Quoted: Quoted: 3 $27 AK receiver blanks, $81. 3 pieces of scrap pipe, scrap springs and random chunks of metal taped on, free. Rough cut pieces of scrap 2x4 coated with left over poly, free. $600 from libtard gun grabbers and a smile on my face? Priceless. I've got a MIG welder that can be used to make it look somewhat more "real". I even know how to use it now (Thanks polymorpheus!). Just sayin' Bingo. I wonder how you might incorporate that pile of old tanks. Oooh, rocket launchers! |
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Bingo. I wonder how you might incorporate that pile of old tanks. Oooh, rocket launchers! Quoted:
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3 $27 AK receiver blanks, $81. 3 pieces of scrap pipe, scrap springs and random chunks of metal taped on, free. Rough cut pieces of scrap 2x4 coated with left over poly, free. $600 from libtard gun grabbers and a smile on my face? Priceless. I've got a MIG welder that can be used to make it look somewhat more "real". I even know how to use it now (Thanks polymorpheus!). Just sayin' Bingo. I wonder how you might incorporate that pile of old tanks. Oooh, rocket launchers! They're evil silencers used by assassins. BIG evil silencers. Weld those to the end of the barrel, get $200. Win! |
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IS there a definition of assault weapon in WI law? Not in current law, but there was one in a proposed bill.... From AB 222 2013 Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau
Generally, current law does not prohibit the possession, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon. This bill bans the transportation, purchase, possession, or transfer of an assault weapon and specifically defines "assault weapon" for the purpose of the ban. <snip> 941.285 Possession of assault weapons. (1) In this section: AB222,3,1515 (a) "Assault weapon" means any of the following: 1. A semiautomatic, center-fire, or pump-action rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A pistol grip. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. f. A grenade launcher or a flare launcher. g. A flash suppressor. h. A forward pistol grip. 2. A semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition. 3. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches. 4. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. 5. A semiautomatic shotgun that has any of the following: a. A pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip and a folding or telescoping stock. b. A fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds. c. An ability to accept a detachable magazine. 6. A shotgun with a revolving cylinder. 7. A conversion kit or parts from which an assault weapon can be assembled if all of the kit or parts are in the control of the same person. (am) "Detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding device, the function of which is to deliver one or more ammunition cartridges into the firing chamber, that can be removed from the firearm without any tool, bullet, or ammunition cartridge. (b) "Firearms dealer" has the meaning given in s. 175.35 (1) (ar). (c) 1. "Large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device that has the capacity to accept more than 7 rounds. 2. "Large-capacity magazine" does not include any of the following: a. A 22-caliber tube ammunition feeding device. b. A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm. (cg) "Muzzle brake" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to reduce recoil. (cr) "Muzzle compensator" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to control muzzle movement. (d) "Rifle" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (a). (e) "Semiautomatic" means that the firearm is a repeating firearm that requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge and that uses a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and to place another unfired cartridge into the chamber. (f) "Shotgun" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (d). Tools. Me thinks with that definition, should it have passed, would have made a Ruger Scout an "assault rifle". 
Notice where they slapped a comma. It doesn't say, "semi-automatic centerfire, or pump action rifle", it's says, "semi-automatic, centerfire, or pump action rifle". So basically by that language you include every centerfire rifle, regardless of action type. I'm going to start remembering the names of politicians who propose this kind of crap. 
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Tools. Me thinks with that definition, should it have passed, would have made a Ruger Scout an "assault rifle".
Notice where they slapped a comma. It doesn't say, "semi-automatic centerfire, or pump action rifle", it's says, "semi-automatic, centerfire, or pump action rifle". So basically by that language you include every centerfire rifle, regardless of action type. I'm going to start remembering the names of politicians who propose this kind of crap. Quoted:
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IS there a definition of assault weapon in WI law? Not in current law, but there was one in a proposed bill.... From AB 222 2013 Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau
Generally, current law does not prohibit the possession, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon. This bill bans the transportation, purchase, possession, or transfer of an assault weapon and specifically defines "assault weapon" for the purpose of the ban. <snip> 941.285 Possession of assault weapons. (1) In this section: AB222,3,1515 (a) "Assault weapon" means any of the following: 1. A semiautomatic, center-fire, or pump-action rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A pistol grip. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. f. A grenade launcher or a flare launcher. g. A flash suppressor. h. A forward pistol grip. 2. A semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition. 3. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches. 4. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. 5. A semiautomatic shotgun that has any of the following: a. A pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip and a folding or telescoping stock. b. A fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds. c. An ability to accept a detachable magazine. 6. A shotgun with a revolving cylinder. 7. A conversion kit or parts from which an assault weapon can be assembled if all of the kit or parts are in the control of the same person. (am) "Detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding device, the function of which is to deliver one or more ammunition cartridges into the firing chamber, that can be removed from the firearm without any tool, bullet, or ammunition cartridge. (b) "Firearms dealer" has the meaning given in s. 175.35 (1) (ar). (c) 1. "Large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device that has the capacity to accept more than 7 rounds. 2. "Large-capacity magazine" does not include any of the following: a. A 22-caliber tube ammunition feeding device. b. A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm. (cg) "Muzzle brake" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to reduce recoil. (cr) "Muzzle compensator" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to control muzzle movement. (d) "Rifle" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (a). (e) "Semiautomatic" means that the firearm is a repeating firearm that requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge and that uses a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and to place another unfired cartridge into the chamber. (f) "Shotgun" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (d). Tools. Me thinks with that definition, should it have passed, would have made a Ruger Scout an "assault rifle".
Notice where they slapped a comma. It doesn't say, "semi-automatic centerfire, or pump action rifle", it's says, "semi-automatic, centerfire, or pump action rifle". So basically by that language you include every centerfire rifle, regardless of action type. I'm going to start remembering the names of politicians who propose this kind of crap. You're going to start?
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I'm going to start remembering the names of politicians who propose this kind of crap. It was proposed by the usual anti-gun assholes. I've yet to see a gun control bill that didn't have Kessler, Sinicki, and Risser as sponsors. AB222, May 29, 2013 - Introduced by Representatives Kessler, Barnes, Johnson, Sinicki and C. Taylor, cosponsored by Senator Risser. Referred to Committee on Criminal Justice. |
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IS there a definition of assault weapon in WI law? Not in current law, but there was one in a proposed bill.... From AB 222 2013 Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau
Generally, current law does not prohibit the possession, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon. This bill bans the transportation, purchase, possession, or transfer of an assault weapon and specifically defines "assault weapon" for the purpose of the ban. <snip> 941.285 Possession of assault weapons. (1) In this section: AB222,3,1515 (a) "Assault weapon" means any of the following: 1. A semiautomatic, center-fire, or pump-action rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A pistol grip. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. f. A grenade launcher or a flare launcher. g. A flash suppressor. h. A forward pistol grip. 2. A semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition. 3. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches. 4. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has any of the following: a. A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. e. A muzzle brake or muzzle compensator. 5. A semiautomatic shotgun that has any of the following: a. A pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip and a folding or telescoping stock. b. A fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds. c. An ability to accept a detachable magazine. 6. A shotgun with a revolving cylinder. 7. A conversion kit or parts from which an assault weapon can be assembled if all of the kit or parts are in the control of the same person. (am) "Detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding device, the function of which is to deliver one or more ammunition cartridges into the firing chamber, that can be removed from the firearm without any tool, bullet, or ammunition cartridge. (b) "Firearms dealer" has the meaning given in s. 175.35 (1) (ar). (c) 1. "Large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device that has the capacity to accept more than 7 rounds. 2. "Large-capacity magazine" does not include any of the following: a. A 22-caliber tube ammunition feeding device. b. A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm. (cg) "Muzzle brake" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to reduce recoil. (cr) "Muzzle compensator" means a device that is attached to the muzzle of a weapon and that uses escaping gas to control muzzle movement. (d) "Rifle" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (a). (e) "Semiautomatic" means that the firearm is a repeating firearm that requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge and that uses a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and to place another unfired cartridge into the chamber. (f) "Shotgun" has the meaning given in s. 941.28 (1) (d). Tools. Me thinks with that definition, should it have passed, would have made a Ruger Scout an "assault rifle".
Notice where they slapped a comma. It doesn't say, "semi-automatic centerfire, or pump action rifle", it's says, "semi-automatic, centerfire, or pump action rifle". So basically by that language you include every centerfire rifle, regardless of action type. I'm going to start remembering the names of politicians who propose this kind of crap. You're going to start? Should I have started earlier? By default I keep politicians on an ignore list. 
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