Posted: 3/19/2014 10:51:13 AM EDT
| Could anybody point me to where it states you must be 18 to open carry? Im looking for the specific wisconsin state statute or law where it defines the legal age to open carry. I've seen all the websites that break it down by state and the wiki page, but thats not good enough. I had an interesting open carry experience today and want to clarify. If you want me to go into detail, I will. Thanks, |
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Wis. Stat. § 948.60(2)(a)
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/948/60/2/a (2)
(a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. |
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Quoted: Could anybody point me to where it states you must be 18 to open carry? Im looking for the specific wisconsin state statute or law where it defines the legal age to open carry. I've seen all the websites that break it down by state and the wiki page, but thats not good enough. I had an interesting open carry experience today and want to clarify. If you want me to go into detail, I will. Thanks, |
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Could anybody point me to where it states you must be 18 to open carry? Im looking for the specific wisconsin state statute or law where it defines the legal age to open carry. I've seen all the websites that break it down by state and the wiki page, but thats not good enough. I had an interesting open carry experience today and want to clarify. If you want me to go into detail, I will. Thanks, You NO NOT have to be 18 to Open Carry. You DO have to be 18 to "carry" a handgun. . . You may Open Carry a rifle or shotgun at age 14 with a Hunter Safety Certificate. It is legal because it is not prohibited. Quoted:
Wis. Stat. § 948.60(2)(a) https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/948/60/2/a (2)
(a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. (c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. |
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Im a college student on spring break (I'm 19), so me and my dad decided to go to brew city shooters supply in milwaukee to go to an indoor range for the first time. You have to be 21 to shoot so my dad signed in and whatnot. I was open carrying my handgun, and one of the clerks (who knew my age) said I cant carry or even own a handgun under the age of 21. Another clerk chimed in and agreed with him. I put up a little argument but decided to just go and shoot. We shot for an hour and I searched the internet for proof that the legal carry age is 18. I did, I went up to the clerk and showed him where it literally said you have to be 18. He shook it off and said thats just a generalization of the US. Then he pointed me to a retired cop and he asked him if I had to be 21, and to my dismay, he agreed with the clerk. At this point I decided to just leave as he clearly doesnt want to listen to reason or facts. He said he was 100% certain you had to be 21 to open carry.
I was pretty confident I was right, but there was no point in arguing. Ill be sending him a letter/ email with links to the laws that he was so sure on. |
Your first mistake was going to Brew City Shooters. 
I believe they may have misunderstood the Federal law of being 21 or over to PURCHASE a handgun or handgun ammo from a FFL, for POSSESSION of a handgun by a person under 18 in Wisconsin. Two very different things. |
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I now realize that mistake.
I can only hope thats it. But the first round of questioning I even brought that up, thinking they were confused. But nope, what shocks me more is this people work in the gun market/ industry and dont even know the laws of the state they live in. |
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I now realize that mistake. I can only hope thats it. But the first round of questioning I even brought that up, thinking they were confused. But nope, what shocks me more is this people work in the gun market/ industry and dont even know the laws of the state they live in. That shocks you? Never been to a Gander Mountain, eh? Some of weirdest gun BS I've ever heard came from behind a gun counter.
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And not to mention that Badger Guns (or Brew City Shooters as they're now known as) has lost it's FFL multiple times. It's been passed through the family each time and emerged with a new license somehow.
If you want to verify some more, try talking to other ranges around the area and get their thoughts on it as well. |
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Brings back good memories. I was 19, home from college on break and bought my first handgun, with my Mom! Dad was at work, so I hauled Mom to the gun shop and had her "buy it" with my money so I could hit the range with it all week.
That was not in Wisconsin but 31 years later, people still can't get this simple concept figured out. |
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Yeeeah. Any retail store I ever step foot in requires me to just smile and nod at the random bullshit I hear. It's the rule to talk out of your ass in the retail gun world. Yeah, those guys behind gun counters are always talking out of their ass.  It's not always the guy behind the counter, customers can be equally 
Not to use a broad brush, but that's the common feeling. Gun shows are probably worse. |
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Yeeeah. Any retail store I ever step foot in requires me to just smile and nod at the random bullshit I hear. It's the rule to talk out of your ass in the retail gun world. Yeah, those guys behind gun counters are always talking out of their ass. Lol
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I'm sending out a letter today with a bunch of maps and the Wisconsin state statutes showing that they were clearly wrong. Then I'll call them next week to make sure they received the message. I don't tolerate ignorance... You must have blood pressure problems then
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I'm sending out a letter today with a bunch of maps and the Wisconsin state statutes showing that they were clearly wrong. Then I'll call them next week to make sure they received the message. . Why would you harass them? 
That is a good way to be asked not to come back ever again. Copy the relevant Federal Code (handgun purchase private party) and WI Statutes in a format which is easy to read and keep it with you whenever you visit in case it comes up again. If you loose sleep every time someone argues with you, you will have a hard life..
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Why would you harass them?
That is a good way to be asked not to come back ever again. Copy the relevant Federal Code (handgun purchase private party) and WI Statutes in a format which is easy to read and keep it with you whenever you visit in case it comes up again. If you loose sleep every time someone argues with you, you will have a hard life.. Quoted:
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I'm sending out a letter today with a bunch of maps and the Wisconsin state statutes showing that they were clearly wrong. Then I'll call them next week to make sure they received the message. . Why would you harass them?
That is a good way to be asked not to come back ever again. Copy the relevant Federal Code (handgun purchase private party) and WI Statutes in a format which is easy to read and keep it with you whenever you visit in case it comes up again. If you loose sleep every time someone argues with you, you will have a hard life.. Seriously, this. Don't argue with idiots, and take your business elsewhere. |
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I couldn't convince the owner of a gunshop that a person 18 to 20 could even purchase a handgun private sale one time. It helps if you point out that there is no law prohibiting someone under 21 from buying a handgun, there is only a law that prohibits an FFL from selling one to someone under 21. That distinction makes all the difference. The prohibition is on the FFL, not the person under 21. |
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Quoted: It helps if you point out that there is no law prohibiting someone under 21 from buying a handgun, there is only a law that prohibits an FFL from selling one to someone under 21. That distinction makes all the difference. The prohibition is on the FFL, not the person under 21. Quoted: Quoted: I couldn't convince the owner of a gunshop that a person 18 to 20 could even purchase a handgun private sale one time. It helps if you point out that there is no law prohibiting someone under 21 from buying a handgun, there is only a law that prohibits an FFL from selling one to someone under 21. That distinction makes all the difference. The prohibition is on the FFL, not the person under 21. |
| The BEST way to communicate your disappointment at their behavior and piss poor customer service is to not go back there ever again, and tell others not to go there either. Guys like that won't listen to reason, they think that their opinion is the law of the land with no chance of changing it. Hit them in the wallet, not in the head (as much as you wanted to, I'm sure). |