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9/13/2013 6:10:11 PM EDT
I have spent the last few hours going over the regs to try to get an answer to a few questions I have about hunting small game while also actively hunting deer with a bow or rifle.

I am looking for some help.

Can a person carry a .22 rimfire handgun (min 4 inch barrel) or rifle while bowhunting with the intent of taking small game mammals? During rifle season?  

Can a person carry a handgun that is not of the legal handgun hunting length such as a Glock 17 while bow or gun hunting deer?  The rules state a handgun may be carried concealed if a person holds a valid CCW permit.


My main reason for asking is I envision harvesting tree rats with a suppressed 22 handgun while hunting other game.  (The Glock 17 question is in regards to protection from Wolves/Bears). ...and yes I know I should play the lottery should I ever need to use it. Not looking for a lecture, just what the law allows. Thanks
9/13/2013 8:30:05 PM EDT
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hunter regs

page 22 under handguns says you can have a ccw if you can carry in Wisconsin

dunno about the 22 though
9/13/2013 9:36:30 PM EDT
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Not sure about during the gun season but during the bow season you are good to go carrying a rifle or pistol and hunting with it.  I used to shoot tree rats with blunts while bowhunting and when I stopped shooting them I saw a lot more deer!
9/14/2013 2:14:49 PM EDT
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hunter regs

page 22 under handguns says you can have a ccw if you can carry in Wisconsin

dunno about the 22 though
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You can conceal carry any pistol you want.  

If you are serious about bowhunting you might want to leave it in the holster though.
9/14/2013 3:36:43 PM EDT
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Can a person carry a .22 rimfire handgun (min 4 inch barrel) or rifle while bowhunting with the intent of taking small game mammals? During rifle season?  

Can a person carry a handgun that is not of the legal handgun hunting length such as a Glock 17 while bow or gun hunting deer?    
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Can a person carry a .22 rimfire handgun (min 4 inch barrel) or rifle while bowhunting with the intent of taking small game mammals? During rifle season?  

Can a person carry a handgun that is not of the legal handgun hunting length such as a Glock 17 while bow or gun hunting deer?    


Yes...Yes...and Yes   It is legal because it is not prohibited.




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http://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/pubs/wm/WM0431.pdf
page 22 under handguns says you can have a ccw if you can carry in Wisconsin
dunno about the 22 though


As I always say, there is not a single actual "law" in that little paper pamphlet.  
This pamphlet gives you a summary of Wisconsin’s important deer
hunting laws and how they affect you; it is not a complete set of all
the hunting related laws.


There is no prohibition to carrying anything including a machine gun while you are hunting.    You may only "hunt" an animal with the specific weapons specified for that season.  You may hunt 2 species concurrently with different weapons so long as you never use a prohibited weapon on the species you are hunting.  To further clarify, you may not use a handgun for the "kill" shot on an animal during an archery only season.  You may not use a centerfire handgun with a barrel length less than 5.5" on a deer, etc even for the "kill" shot.  You may never use a rimfire firearm on a deer even for the kill" shot.   You may have a .22 and a bow and hunt both squirrel and deer at the same time so long as you possess the proper license for each and you only use allowed weapons for each.
9/14/2013 3:39:32 PM EDT
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Not sure about during the gun season!
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The season is irrelevant regarding carrying of weapons.  During the gun season, you may even fill your gun tag using a crossbow or "regular" bow.
9/14/2013 3:44:32 PM EDT
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Not a gun issue but an ammo one... If you intend to duck hunt & grouse hunt on the same trip in the field, you'd better leave any lead shot grouse loads in your vehicle. You are not allowed to possess any lead shot while waterfowl hunting. Both a State and Federal violation.

eta: related to the OP's question, there is no limit on the number of firearms (both legal or not legal for the game you are hunting) you can carry while hunting. IOW, you can carry a deer rifle, a deer-legal handgun, a muzzleloader, AND a crossbow, simultaneously all on the same deer tag. But anyone with you better have a deer license too... otherwise a warden will "assume" one weapon belongs to the unlicensed person with you.

You may also carry handguns NOT legal for deer hunting, as long as you DO have a legal deer firearm also. IOW, if you're walking through the woods during deer season, wearing blaze orange and a back tag, and you're carrying a stock barrel length G19 and a Marlin 336 in .30-30, both are legal for you to have, but only one is legal to hunt deer with. If you just have the G19, wearing blaze orange and a backtag... you might have a little problem.   No blaze orange, no back-tag... then you're not deer hunting, so just a G19 is fine.

If waterfowl hunting, you can have 2, 3, or 10 shotguns, as long as none hold more than 3 shells total (and everybody present has proper licenses & tags... otherwise "extra" guns are assumed to belong to the unlicensed person(s)). Personally, I usually take two shotguns into my duck blind, and both are always loaded. One with #3 shot (teal & ducks) and the other with BB shot (geese). Where we hunt, we see both ducks & geese, and there's nothing more frustrating than to be loaded up with BBs, cuz you heard some geese approaching, only to have a flock of blue wing teal fly within range.... and visa-versa. So to cure the frustration, I started bringing two guns. ... WTF, I've got 5 waterfowl guns, might as well put them to good use.
9/14/2013 4:10:53 PM EDT
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Good point..   Same thing goes with buckshot for deer hunting...   Another thing I noticed..  You may not posses a center-fire rifle .22 caliber or larger if you are hunting in a shotgun-only zone during any shotgun only deer hunting season.  

NR 10.09 Guns, ammunition and other devices.
(1) PROHIBITED METHODS. No person shall:
(a) Shotshells. 1. ‘Slugs or balls.’ Possess or have in control,
while hunting any gamebird, any shotshells loaded with single
slug or ball except during the open gun season for deer, elk or bear.
2. ‘Size.’ Possess or have in control, while hunting, shells
containing shot larger than no. BB during the period commencing
on June 1 and continuing through the last day of any deer season
or hunt established in s. NR 10.01 (3) (e), (es), or (et), whichever
season is later, except in any of the following circumstances:
a. During the open season established in s. NR 10.01 (1) (b),
(c) and (g) when nontoxic shot size BBB and T may be used for
hunting migratory game birds listed in s. NR 10.01 (1) (b), (c) and
(g).
b. A person holding a valid permit to harvest a bobcat and an
unfilled pelt tag issued under s. NR 10.145 may possess and use
shotshells containing shot larger than no. BB for the purpose of
hunting bobcat during the open season established in s. NR 10.01
(3) (d).
3. ‘Game bird hunting.’ a. Hunt any game bird with a rifle
or shotgun loaded with single ball, pellet, BB or slug or shot larger
than no. BB.
b. Use or possess shot or shells containing shot larger than no.
2 steel or no. 4 for lead or other no. 4 non-steel shot while hunting
wild turkeys.
(b) Incendiary shells. Possess or have in control, while hunting,
any shell, cartridge or ammunition known as tracer shells, or
incendiary shells or cartridges. Distress flares are exempt from
this section.
(c) Guns and devices. 1. ‘Type.’ Hunt with any means other
than the use of a gun designed to be fired from the shoulder utilizing
utilizing
the energy of gun powder or compressed air, bow and arrow
or by falconry except:
a. Muzzleloaders may be used for hunting, except that any
muzzleloader used in the muzzleloading season described in s.
NR 10.01 (3) (es) shall have a solid breech plug attached with
threads, be capable of being loaded only from the muzzle, use
black powder or other black powder substitute, and may include
a mounted telescopic sight.
b. Hare, rabbit, squirrel, raccoon, fox, coyote, bobcat and
unprotected wild animals may be hunted with handguns or pellet
guns of .17 caliber or larger. Handguns shall have a minimum barrel
length of 4 inches measured from the muzzle to the firing pin
with the action closed.
c. Deer or bear may be hunted with handguns loaded with
centerfire cartridges of .22 caliber or larger and that have a minimum
barrel length of 5 ½ inches measured from the muzzle to the
firing pin with the action closed.
Note: Hunters using handguns must comply with all state and federal laws respecting
handguns, including s. 941.23, Stats., respecting concealment, and s. 29.597,
Stats., respecting transportation.
d. Deer or bear may be hunted with cylinder loading black
powder muzzle-loading handguns which are not less than .44 caliber,
do not use cartridges, and have a minimum barrel length of
7 inches measured from muzzle to breech face that fire a single
projectile weighing not less than 138 grains.
2. ‘Deer or bear hunting.’ Hunt any deer or bear with any air
rifle, rim-fire rifle, any center-fire rifle less than .22 caliber, any
.410 bore or less shotgun or handgun loaded with .410 shotgun
shell ammunition or with ammunition loaded with nonexpanding
type bullets or ammunition loaded with shot other than a single
slug or projectile.
3. ‘Possession.’ Possess any rim-fire rifle larger than .22 caliber
or any center-fire rifle .22 caliber or larger in areas wherein
there is an open season or hunt specified in s. NR 10.01 (3) for
hunting deer with shotgun only unless the rifle is unloaded and
enclosed within a carrying case.
(d) Automatic firearms. Hunt with a fully automatic firearm.
(e) Handguns. Persons possessing a class A or C disabled permit
may use handguns chambered for .410 or larger shot shells for
hunting all species except deer, elk, bear, turkey and migratory
game birds.
9/14/2013 5:25:27 PM EDT
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Steel game shot is much more readily gotten nowadays for grouse etc. though so it's not much of a deal now.

ETA:  My brother got stopped by a DNR officer last muzzle loading season.  He had 3 muzzle loaders on him. The officer asked 'why so many?' he says cause I miss some the officer is like practice more then
9/15/2013 3:59:06 AM EDT
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When I got the 2 shotgun idea for waterfowl, I didn't know if it was legal. At the next spring fish & game hearings, all 3 wardens from my area were there, and I approached the 3 together and asked about it. All 3 said I was good to go with as many shotguns as I wanted, as long as they were loaded with non-toxic shot, mags were plugged to hold only 2 in the mag, and there wasn't anybody with me who wasn't licensed  (if there was, the "extra" gun was theirs). I explained why I wanted two, one warden asked why not just reload one. I said it was dangerous to be constantly & hurriedly loading and unloading a gun in a blind if it wasn't necessary. He agreed. Been bringing 2 guns ever since.

BTW... I carry two muzzleloaders also. 10 yrs ago, I bought a NEF Huntsman .50 cal, 5 weeks later, won another one just like it at a WTU banquet. I put Williams aperture sights on both, they shoot the same loads, same ramrod, etc. Muzzie season, there's always snow up north, so I do mostly tracking... too cold to sit. One gets slung over my shoulder, I carry the other.
9/16/2013 10:48:11 AM EDT
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Thanks for the feedback!  Now just (hopefully) 6 more months to wait.