[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Political climate, Madison (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/7/2012 6:59:56 PM EDT
| My niece just moved from Texas to Madison, WI. What is the political climate like? Pro gun vs anti? Liberal? She tells me the locals don't like Walker. |
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Haha she just moved to Moscow-west. Best word I could describe the climate is vitriol. Madison's political spectrum runs from the moderate left to out and out communists. It is the most anti-gun city in this state. It has become very interesting since the Republicans took control of both houses and the governor, Madison has been in non-stop temper-tantrum meltdown since January 2011. |
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I gave the subject no thought until Glenn Beck said that Stalin's daughter had died...in Madison. I need to be alert that she doesn't get brainwashed. Is Madison a college town? Yup, very much so. To answer your earlier question, generally anti-gun and VERY liberal. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison,_Wisconsin#Nicknames: Over the years, Madison has acquired nicknames and slogans that include: Mad City[73][74] Madtown[75][76] The Berkeley of the Midwest[77] 78 square miles surrounded by reality[78] The Athens of the Midwest[79] The People's Republic of Madison[80][81] Four Lakes City[82] Lake City Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison,_Wisconsin#Politics and be sure to read the subheadings "Current politics," "Historical politics," and "Notable political groups and publications." FYI, the two main employers in Madison are government and the University of Wisconsin - Madison (i.e. more government). That's putting Madison mildly, but it should give you a good idea of what life is like in the Peoples' Republic. Mike |
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I gave the subject no thought until Glenn Beck said that Stalin's daughter had died...in Madison. I need to be alert that she doesn't get brainwashed. Is Madison a college town? Yes Actually Richland center, not Madison. Also read that she hated her father and communism.... |
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I gave the subject no thought until Glenn Beck said that Stalin's daughter had died...in Madison. I need to be alert that she doesn't get brainwashed. Is Madison a college town? Yes Actually Richland center, not Madison. Also read that she hated her father and communism.... Why let inconvenient facts interfere with the bashing of an entire community and all its residents? I guess the best I can hope for is not to become a "brainwashed" liberal, and at best I'm near-left wing? That's as bad as some of the local fruitcakes claiming we should quit subsidizing the unwashed ignorant masses in the north part of the state, because they're too stupid to earn good-paying jobs.  There's nutjobs all over (and some very vocal ones in Madison), but the level of broad generalization in this thread is equally as bad as the far left's.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I gave the subject no thought until Glenn Beck said that Stalin's daughter had died...in Madison. I need to be alert that she doesn't get brainwashed. Is Madison a college town? Yes Actually Richland center, not Madison. Also read that she hated her father and communism.... Why let inconvenient facts interfere with the bashing of an entire community and all its residents? I guess the best I can hope for is not to become a "brainwashed" liberal, and at best I'm near-left wing? That's as bad as some of the local fruitcakes claiming we should quit subsidizing the unwashed ignorant masses in the north part of the state, because they're too stupid to earn good-paying jobs. There's nutjobs all over (and some very vocal ones in Madison), but the level of broad generalization in this thread is equally as bad as the far left's.Perhaps you are misunderstanding my posts in this thread. 1) When I referred to the political spectrum I referred meant those in local office not the populace. Dane county is about 66% democrat, of coarse individuals are very conservative, but of those elected overall my statement is true. 2) I made no reference to Stalins daughters politics, she didn't really like communism or capitalism. 3) Chill out, if you don't think Madison is what is described above open your eyes. |
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Haha she just moved to Moscow-west. Best word I could describe the climate is vitriol. Madison's political spectrum runs from the moderate left to out and out communists. It is the most anti-gun city in this state. It has become very interesting since the Republicans took control of both houses and the governor, Madison has been in non-stop temper-tantrum meltdown since January 2011. As a long time resident, I can attest to the accuracy of this statement. I fully expect half the people who live here's heads to cave in when Walker wins the recall election. |
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3) Chill out, if you don't think Madison is what is described above open your eyes. Very true. Lived in Dane County for almost 7 years now. My ultra conservative father-in-law is always agast when they come to visit. "How can you live here in the liberal lion's den? he always says. If you spend too much time here or lived here all your life you start going numb to it. It really first hit me shortly after moving here when the local news did a story about a resident all in tears, bawling because the city cut down the trees she planted in a green space. The way the media blatently focused on the emotional side and completely ignoring the facts that she had no right to do something like that made me realize I wasn't in Northern WI anymore. Madison is actually not that big of a town to have such a large university. Since college kids can vote in the district they are going to school they have the numbers to sway local elections. Really doesn't seem fair that a bunch of temporary, not property owning students get to pick the major. I rented for a year before I bought a house in the area. I saw enough to make sure I didn't buy property in Madison. I should have went a step farther and bought a house outside of Dane county, but I didn't want to commute too far to work. |
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Quoted: I disagree. Big time. imho its the worst place to live in wisconsin ... I've lived in other places around the state, our family owns property up north. I also have friends from all over the state. Do you know the guys I hang out with now? None, TommyTrauma, FMD, Flamethrower, Neo, and yes even Glenn_R (when he lets me). These are pro gun guys to the nth. degree. For the most part we shoot (something) every week. I cook a lot of food, mostly during the summer. ALL my neighbors come running. 3/4 of which are Dems. Liberal Dems. I like to count them as close friends. We rarely talk politics, and none of them have the ever present RECALL WALKER sign posted anywhere. I've lived here about 7 years and I like it, a lot. Madison has a ton to offer that the outlying areas come here in droves for. My father always said to me growing up "son, the squeaky wheel gets the grease". And he is right. There are a minority who rattle their sabers the loudest, and they get heard the most. Madison is a liberal town, but not 100%. About 65% at most. Your relative landed in a wonderful city, with adventures abound waiting for her. If she wants to embrace being a liberal, she will. If not, she will still find tons of friends who are very conservative. Tell her I said, welcome to one of the finest cities in WI.  |
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[My father always said to me growing up "son, the squeaky wheel gets the grease". And he is right. There are a minority who rattle their sabers the loudest, and they get heard the most. Madison is a liberal town, but not 100%. About 65% at most. Your relative landed in a wonderful city, with adventures abound waiting for her. If she wants to embrace being a liberal, she will. If not, she will still find tons of friends who are very conservative. Tell her I said, welcome to one of the finest cities in WI.
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Like Glen and Unique1 said there is a lot to be said for Madison.
I actually like living here, there is always something to do with the family and friends. It is a LOT cleaner than some cities/towns I have visited. The police for the most part tend to keep the ghettos under reasonable control without making a huge deal out of it. The fire dept. is top notch as far as I am concerned (except the chief but she is a isolated case). There are some top notch restaurants and bars around if that is your thing. Madison has some of the best city parks I have seen in a long time (to include dog parks). Like others have said it can have it's downsides as well. It is just a matter of who you hang out with and where you are residing at the moment. I do a lot of work on/near the university and get to hear all the college students going on and on about how Walker will destroy all the hard work they put into getting the state to where it was until he got elected. Most of the students were not even around long enough to vote the last time Doyle got voted in. You know what? I just do my job and don't poke at the stupid every day (not worth my time). Yes Madison/Dane county has higher taxes than some of the other areas of the state but to me it is worth it to pay a little more and have the benefits that I enjoy close by (this is not to say that I don't need to get out of the city and into the country every now and then, I was raised on a farm after all). |
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Quoted: Da. Ve vill welcome her as a new comrade. She can share our borscht and vodka.Quoted: [My father always said to me growing up "son, the squeaky wheel gets the grease". And he is right. There are a minority who rattle their sabers the loudest, and they get heard the most. Madison is a liberal town, but not 100%. About 65% at most. Your relative landed in a wonderful city, with adventures abound waiting for her. If she wants to embrace being a liberal, she will. If not, she will still find tons of friends who are very conservative. Tell her I said, welcome to one of the finest cities in WI. This. In one of my jobs, I work for the state in one of those liberal state office buildings in Madison. I carry my Glock every day with my employer's blessing. |
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The OP's question was about the political climate, not the town or the people per se. I spent 4 years in Madison. I thoroughly enjoyed it although I could not stand the politics. It is very liberal, just as Germantown (where I live now) is very conservative. Are there people and politicians that are conservative in Madison- sure. But the political climate IS LIBERAL.
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| On top of all the badthings already said about Madison its also becoming one of the most violent and dangerous places to live in Wisconsin seems the mrurders, rapes, violent crimes and thefts continue to rival Milwaukee s reputation everyday. Radical left-wing political extremism abound that spreads itself like a plague throught the state, through its media influence and tax burden on on all the small counties around it that have fallen victim to the Madison college systems tax rates. People change there perception of decency and what is normal and accepted the longer they live there. As an outsider that was still close enough to fall under Madisons influence for twenty years I've seen the problems and truly feel bad for those that can't see that town for the cancer that it is. |
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Quoted: On top of all the badthings already said about Madison its also becoming one of the most violent and dangerous places to live in Wisconsin seems the mrurders, rapes, violent crimes and thefts continue to rival Milwaukee s reputation everyday. Radical left-wing political extremism abound that spreads itself like a plague throught the state, through its media influence and tax burden on on all the small counties around it that have fallen victim to the Madison college systems tax rates. People change there perception of decency and what is normal and accepted the longer they live there. As an outsider that was still close enough to fall under Madisons influence for twenty years I've seen the problems and truly feel bad for those that can't see that town for the cancer that it is. Do you ghost write for Tom Clancy or Dean Koontz? Well written prose, but not a lot of depth. I've lived OUTSIDE of Madison for over 35 years  .I've lived in this North Korean hell you describe as Madison for ten and I'll be damned if I've ever met or talked with Satan or seen my first murder. Am I on the wrong side of town or what???  I appreciate the sound assessment of this hell-hole, you've given me new reason to put an AR in each vehicle, a second pistol in my sock and some body armor. How much to up-armor an Altima??  There goes the credit card bill...  |
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Quoted: On top of all the badthings already said about Madison its also becoming one of the most violent and dangerous places to live in Wisconsin seems the mrurders, rapes, violent crimes and thefts continue to rival Milwaukee s reputation everyday. Radical left-wing political extremism abound that spreads itself like a plague throught the state, through its media influence and tax burden on on all the small counties around it that have fallen victim to the Madison college systems tax rates. People change there perception of decency and what is normal and accepted the longer they live there. As an outsider that was still close enough to fall under Madisons influence for twenty years I've seen the problems and truly feel bad for those that can't see that town for the cancer that it is. I live in Madison, am a paramedic in this county and used to run EMS in Milwaukee. If you think Madison is a particularly violent and dangerous place, you need to spend some more time in Milwaukee. Or Racine. Or Chicago. Or Kansas City. or San Antonio. or St. Louis. or pretty much any city with a population over 200k. Madison has a murder rate of 4 per hundred thousand compared to Milwaukee at 15. Sexual assaults in Madison run at 28 per hundred thousand compared to Milwaukee's 32.5 (and are as high as they are because it's a college town). Robbery is at 364 per hundred thousand compared to Milwaukee's 483.9. City-data.com notes a crime index of 267 compared to a national average of 311. But hyperbole does play better. |
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the herp n derp of this thread blows my mind . Your niece will fall in with whatever type of people she wants to. There are all kinds of people in Madison, and it is by far the best city in Wisconsin. There is something to do every weekend, and the parks and pools are second to none. She picked an awesome town to move too.
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Quoted: Quoted: I live in Madison, am a paramedic in this county... Is it a county ordinance that every ambulance must go everywhere lights and sirens? I use to be just off of Park Street and saw an ambulance or fire truck running without them.Used to be, responding to calls at least. A few years ago we finally instituted a priority dispatch system and no longer run lights / siren to things like ankle injuries and such. 'Bout fucking time too. |
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Quoted: the herp n derp of this thread blows my mind . Your niece will fall in with whatever type of people she wants to. There are all kinds of people in Madison, and it is by far the best city in Wisconsin. There is something to do every weekend, and the parks and pools are second to none. She picked an awesome town to move too.But... but... liberals. Sodom and Gomorrah. Hippies. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! |
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the herp n derp of this thread blows my mind . Your niece will fall in with whatever type of people she wants to. There are all kinds of people in Madison, and it is by far the best city in Wisconsin. There is something to do every weekend, and the parks and pools are second to none. She picked an awesome town to move too.But... but... liberals. Sodom and Gomorrah. Hippies. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! Don't forget they burned down the ROTC building at UW.
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the herp n derp of this thread blows my mind . Your niece will fall in with whatever type of people she wants to. There are all kinds of people in Madison, and it is by far the best city in Wisconsin. There is something to do every weekend, and the parks and pools are second to none. She picked an awesome town to move too.But... but... liberals. Sodom and Gomorrah. Hippies. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! Don't forget they burned down the ROTC building at UW. That was in 1970, 40 years ago, at least provide some context. There was also a bombing that killed one university researcher and injured 4 others. These events were in response to the Vietnam War. |
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I attended MATC in high school, and found as others have said both ends of the spectrum. Other than some trouble with traffic at rush hours, I had no real complaints. It seems to me to have the most liberal leaning percentage of the population compared to other areas I have lived. I would prefer to not live in the city, but that is personal preference.
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On top of all the badthings already said about Madison its also becoming one of the most violent and dangerous places to live in Wisconsin seems the mrurders, rapes, violent crimes and thefts continue to rival Milwaukee s reputation everyday. Radical left-wing political extremism abound that spreads itself like a plague throught the state, through its media influence and tax burden on on all the small counties around it that have fallen victim to the Madison college systems tax rates. People change there perception of decency and what is normal and accepted the longer they live there. As an outsider that was still close enough to fall under Madisons influence for twenty years I've seen the problems and truly feel bad for those that can't see that town for the cancer that it is. I live in Madison, am a paramedic in this county and used to run EMS in Milwaukee. If you think Madison is a particularly violent and dangerous place, you need to spend some more time in Milwaukee. Or Racine. Or Chicago. Or Kansas City. or San Antonio. or St. Louis. or pretty much any city with a population over 200k. Madison has a murder rate of 4 per hundred thousand compared to Milwaukee at 15. Sexual assaults in Madison run at 28 per hundred thousand compared to Milwaukee's 32.5 (and are as high as they are because it's a college town). Robbery is at 364 per hundred thousand compared to Milwaukee's 483.9. City-data.com notes a crime index of 267 compared to a national average of 311. But hyperbole does play better. I now reside in SE Wisconsin and make my living working in some of the worst places in Racine and Kenosha occasionally MKE I'll take SE Wisconsin as an area over Dane county and the surrounding counties under its influence anyday of the week. Your stats are right but it doesnt take a genius to see crime is on the rise in Madison at all. You have a county District attornery with no regard for the law, you have a fire cheif and police chief that are borderline communists along with portions of there staffs that have no regard for order or the law as well. Keep it, I guess perception really is everything... I dont live in the city, I never have, I never will but I prefer not to live in an area with such strong influenece and overreach that it ruins the quality of life for those that choose to live far away from it all. With Madison and Dane county the influence and problems of the city reach out to nearly every county surrounding it within a 2 county radius. You most certainly do not have that with SE Wisconsin. Milwaukees problems are Milwaukee countys problems not mine in western Kenosha county. |
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I just moved to Madison. Was in the Milwaukee/Waukesha area for the last 5 years. I think Madison is a much better place to live than Milwaukee. At least Madison fast food restaurants don't have bulletproof glass at the counter and in the drive-through windows.
Sure, all of the Recall Walker stuff Whining gets old, but for the most part, Madison is a good place to live. I like it so far. My AR, on the other hand, doesn't like it... she doesn't get her exercise as regularly :( |
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Quoted: its the liberal captiol of wisconsin the United States. FIFY. There's a reason the postcard that says "Madison, 14 square miles surrounded by reality" is a popular postcard. It's easy enough to get by there if you can manage to shut up about your own beliefs, and can ignore absolute obnoxiousness.
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Quoted: Yeah. Anyone here who knows me can tell you I'm amazingly quiet about my own beliefs. That's me, the model of circumspection.Quoted: its the liberal captiol of wisconsin the United States. FIFY. There's a reason the postcard that says "Madison, 14 square miles surrounded by reality" is a popular postcard. It's easy enough to get by there if you can manage to shut up about your own beliefs, and can ignore absolute obnoxiousness. As far as ignoring absolute obnoxiousness goes, I spend time in GD. |
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I am not fond of Madison myself. I have always felt uncomfortable just being there, and I am just waiting for my truck (With my company info on it) to get vandalized. I tend to feel outnumbered and unwanted simply for my political beliefs. I am sure itt is just paranoia, but that is the way I am. It doesn't make it untrue. I think most people in Madison are decent folk for the most part. Unfortunately Madison is the leberal Mecca of Wisconsin. Liberal beliefs just plain don't jive with mine and I tend to disagree with most of them. That is perhaps why I don't like Madison. Most of my friends live in Madison or in the outlying areas, so when I want to do something with them I am usually forced to go there as opposed to them coming out by me.
I am not going to lump everyone into one group, but in the same token I think it is disingenuos for some that have posted to infer that Madison is all peaches and cream. As I said Madison is an ok town, I dislike it but it is ok. My biggest drawback to the place is the shear number of extreme left wing and communist nut jobs that reside there, that think it is ok to do what they want when they want in spite of the law. The town is flooded with these kinds of people, guesstimating the per capita of them to be off the chart compaired to any other city in Wisconsin. I certainly don't uderstand some of the decision law makers there make. Such as allowing homeless people to crap and piss in the parks and telling the police not to ticket them. WTF? Anyway, if it were not for my friends that live there, I would avoid Madison at all costs.
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I just moved to Madison. Was in the Milwaukee/Waukesha area for the last 5 years. I think Madison is a much better place to live than Milwaukee. At least Madison fast food restaurants don't have bulletproof glass at the counter and in the drive-through windows. Sure, all of the Recall Walker stuff Whining gets old, but for the most part, Madison is a good place to live. I like it so far. My AR, on the other hand, doesn't like it... she doesn't get her exercise as regularly :( You don't visit south park street much do you? |
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I have lived most of my life in and around Madison, and there are for sure a lot of lefties and plain weirdos in town. For the most part, the downtown area is the area to avoid if you are the kind of person that is "brainwashed" easily. A few weeks ago I saw a USSR flag flying from someone's downtown apartment, I can see how if you were a young impressionable individual, you might suddenly become a commie. Like others have stated, obviously there are people here with their head on straight, and even *gasp* a few arfcommers. I have met plenty of people that are normal to balance out the weirdos I have met. All in all, it is a pretty good for a city, not perfect, but I'd take Madison over Milwaukee any day. |
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On top of all the badthings already said about Madison its also becoming one of the most violent and dangerous places to live in Wisconsin seems the mrurders, rapes, violent crimes and thefts continue to rival Milwaukee s reputation everyday. Radical left-wing political extremism abound that spreads itself like a plague throught the state, through its media influence and tax burden on on all the small counties around it that have fallen victim to the Madison college systems tax rates. People change there perception of decency and what is normal and accepted the longer they live there. As an outsider that was still close enough to fall under Madisons influence for twenty years I've seen the problems and truly feel bad for those that can't see that town for the cancer that it is. Do you ghost write for Tom Clancy or Dean Koontz? Well written prose, but not a lot of depth. I've lived OUTSIDE of Madison for over 35 years .
I've lived in this North Korean hell you describe as Madison for ten and I'll be damned if I've ever met or talked with Satan or seen my first murder. Am I on the wrong side of town or what???
I appreciate the sound assessment of this hell-hole, you've given me new reason to put an AR in each vehicle, a second pistol in my sock and some body armor. How much to up-armor an Altima??
There goes the credit card bill...
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Perhaps you are misunderstanding my posts in this thread. 1) When I referred to the political spectrum I referred meant those in local office not the populace. Dane county is about 66% democrat, of coarse individuals are very conservative, but of those elected overall my statement is true. 2) I made no reference to Stalins daughters politics, she didn't really like communism or capitalism. 3) Chill out, if you don't think Madison is what is described above open your eyes. Uhhh....well....you're right, I re-read what you wrote, and you stated the political spectrum, not the residents. I owe you an apology. You weren't stating residents varied from near-left to communist. And I agree with your assessment of the political spectrum. Everybody, pay attention. I was wrong. This is an infrequent event, and all of you were here to witness it.
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Day 4745 in this hellish gulag called Madison. I managed to make it to the salt mine where I'm forced to labor for the good of the party without being assaulted or raped. I fear my return trip may not be so quiet. I must protect my manly starfish from the Communist ho-mo-sexuals who pervade this Marxist hellhole. I worry about unique1. I fear he is losing his will to fend off the indoctrination and reeducation we're all exposed to 24/7. My own sanity is frayed, but I overheard him talking about getting a hybrid to replace his car. He already owns cats - I fear he will be the next to be assimilated. WOrse, if Soglin's dyslexia acts up again, unique1 might end up with his ass laminated. I think I saw comrade soglin from a distance while standing in the gruel line last night. It was either him or Janet Reno - with the facial hair it's difficult to tell them apart. I can't write much more today. If they discover this, I fear they'll erase my carbon footprint. Oh God, I think Commisar Glenn may be on to my attempts to forment rebellion. I can only hope that the free men up nort there can avenge me. AVENGE ME! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Day 4745 in this hellish gulag called Madison. I managed to make it to the salt mine where I'm forced to labor for the good of the party without being assaulted or raped. I fear my return trip may not be so quiet. I must protect my manly starfish from the Communist ho-mo-sexuals who pervade this Marxist hellhole. I worry about unique1. I fear he is losing his will to fend off the indoctrination and reeducation we're all exposed to 24/7. My own sanity is frayed, but I overheard him talking about getting a hybrid to replace his car. He already owns cats - I fear he will be the next to be assimilated. WOrse, if Soglin's dyslexia acts up again, unique1 might end up with his ass laminated. I think I saw comrade soglin from a distance while standing in the gruel line last night. It was either him or Janet Reno - with the facial hair it's difficult to tell them apart. I can't write much more today. If they discover this, I fear they'll erase my carbon footprint. Oh God, I think Commisar Glenn may be on to my attempts to forment rebellion. I can only hope that the free men up nort there can avenge me. AVENGE ME! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted so I can turn you in for the 2 meal ticket bounty for exposing independent thinkers. I am gonna have three meals today!  |
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I grew up in Massachusetts. Madison is paradise. Those of you that bitch about Madison out to go live on the east coast for a few years. I think that Madison and Dane county are a near perfect place to live in. Housing is cheap (I grew up in sub division in MA, a shitty shack cost $600000), there lots of good work, the economy is decent, ample parking, almost no traffic. Had a buddy of mine move from Madison to San Francisco. Now he is crying crocodile tears about how awesome Madison, WI was. Sure he double his pay, but he lives in the ghetto and pays double the rent, and has a hellish 40 minute commute.
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Day 4745 in this hellish gulag called Madison. I managed to make it to the salt mine where I'm forced to labor for the good of the party without being assaulted or raped. I fear my return trip may not be so quiet. I must protect my manly starfish from the Communist ho-mo-sexuals who pervade this Marxist hellhole. I worry about unique1. I fear he is losing his will to fend off the indoctrination and reeducation we're all exposed to 24/7. My own sanity is frayed, but I overheard him talking about getting a hybrid to replace his car. He already owns cats - I fear he will be the next to be assimilated. WOrse, if Soglin's dyslexia acts up again, unique1 might end up with his ass laminated. I think I saw comrade soglin from a distance while standing in the gruel line last night. It was either him or Janet Reno - with the facial hair it's difficult to tell them apart. I can't write much more today. If they discover this, I fear they'll erase my carbon footprint. Oh God, I think Commisar Glenn may be on to my attempts to forment rebellion. I can only hope that the free men up nort there can avenge me. AVENGE ME! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted so I can turn you in for the 2 meal ticket bounty for exposing independent thinkers. I am gonna have three meals today!
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I grew up in Massachusetts. Madison is paradise. Those of you that bitch about Madison out to go live on the east coast for a few years. I think that Madison and Dane county are a near perfect place to live in. Housing is cheap (I grew up in sub division in MA, a shitty shack cost $600000), there lots of good work, the economy is decent, ample parking, almost no traffic. Had a buddy of mine move from Madison to San Francisco. Now he is crying crocodile tears about how awesome Madison, WI was. Sure he double his pay, but he lives in the ghetto and pays double the rent, and has a hellish 40 minute commute. It's definately all relative. I sometimes like to peruse the Illinois HTF just to see how 'liberal' even their gun guys are to keep things in perspective. Living in Madison long enough you start going numb to the liberalism and it's difficult to not absorb it yourself. You don't notice it until you start venturing outside the bubble. Visiting family at Christmas I was surprised...every other person doesn't drive a Prius with a RECALL WALKER sticker on it?. Heck, I even saw a few SUPPORT WALKER bumber stickers. I'd pinch one off in my pants right there if I saw that in Dane county. |
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Don't forget they burned down the ROTC building at UW. That was in 1970, 40 years ago, at least provide some context. There was also a bombing that killed one university researcher and injured 4 others. These events were in response to the Vietnam War. Wait until this summer when they lose the recall election. The lefty loons of WI will not go quietly into that goodnight. If I had a daughter (which I don't) I would not wish her to ba anywhere near that kind of environment. |