Posted: 10/26/2011 4:35:00 AM EDT
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See this story.
Madison Metro has posted their buses to prohibit guns. So I guess if you can't afford to drive your own vehicle then you're SOL. But on top of that they're also posting their bus shelters and transfer points and are asking the city council to make carrying there an ordinance violation. These are not indoor locations. Does this mean a city, which can't post at a public park, would be able to post picnic shelters, gazebo or public restrooms there? |
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The ordinance would make it illegal to carry a handgun, knife or billy club in government buildings Snip/ If they are really going to try and in-force the carry of knifes they might as well fine every old man in every small town in WI because they all have a pocket knife. The way cities (large and small) are handling CC, they are basically making legal carry near impossible. |
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I'm thinking the libtards are just freaking out.
Their heads are swelling up at the mere though of guns being in citizens hands. I hope this passes when they realize November first WI will not turn into the OK Corral... I mean, only criminals carry guns, right...? 
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I think this happened everywhere. At first everything was posted. After a while, the signs eventually become less and less prevalent.
Eventually most places aren't posted and those that are will be easily avoidable... Liberals making more snap judgement based on their feelings and not logical thought processes. |
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Stores and whatnot, yeah, they'll forget after a few months, or maybe years. Signs will fall just through attrition as windows are cleaned, faded signs are removed and not replaced, stores get remodeled etc.
Yes, but on a purely grudge basis, the Milwaukee poverty pimper urban style liberals, and Madison Che Guevara/granola/Berkley liberals will never de-post anything. |
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^^^^^^ THIS.
You can bet the commie cities will make the effort to keep everything 'freshly" posted. Besides, didn't someone mention that Madison defined bus shelters in another law as NOT buildings? Yeah, I smell a potential lawsuit here, but I'm not sure it'll happen. More like someone will get arrested, charged with CC in a bus shelter, then when the DA gets wind of this conflict in law, the charges will be dropped, and the law will still be there, but not really enforced except as a throw-away in a plea bargain, maybe. |
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^^^^^THIS +2
I also recall something about Madison declaring bus shelters as not being buildings. By not being buildings, bums & vagrants couldn't be charged with trespassing but only with loitering. And the Madison libs. would never think of charging someone with loitering, hence it was legal to turn a bus shelter into your OWN shelter. |
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See this story. Does this mean a city, which can't post at a public park, would be able to post picnic shelters, gazebo or public restrooms there? Yes.....well, yes to the restroom building. It is a building so they can. The shelters in parks like gazebos really depend on how they are defined by construction. At least this is what I learned at the City of West Bend Public Hearing. They have 3-4 gazebo type things and only 1 of them could have been posted if they desired (per the parks guy). The restroom buildings could have been posted as well. |
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See this story. Does this mean a city, which can't post at a public park, would be able to post picnic shelters, gazebo or public restrooms there? Yes.....well, yes to the restroom building. It is a building so they can. The shelters in parks like gazebos really depend on how they are defined by construction. At least this is what I learned at the City of West Bend Public Hearing. They have 3-4 gazebo type things and only 1 of them could have been posted if they desired (per the parks guy). The restroom buildings could have been posted as well. That's very interesting. Thanks for the info! |
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By the way, they can post buses all they want, but they can't actually enforce it. ACT 35 doesn't give them the ability to post public transportation vehicles like buses. So, you can ignore their little signs, since they actually hold zero legal weight. That doesn't mean they won't attempt to make your life a living hell while you spend a bunch of money attempting to defend yourself. Right or wrong, i don't want to be the guinea pig. Good thing i don't ride Madison metro... |
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Just moving here from MN, the land were nothing is allowed. Does anybody know if the WI law is written like the MN law? Specifically does a private business have to post a No guns allowed." notice on the door? In MN as long as the your weapon is concelled you are not breaking the law. If someone sees you carrying then you will be asked to leave; at which point you must do so to stay within in law.
So the Mall of America has no gun notices at all entrances, but can carry as long as you do not desplay it. Any word? Thanks, Ed |
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Just moving here from MN, the land were nothing is allowed. Does anybody know if the WI law is written like the MN law? Specifically does a private business have to post a No guns allowed." notice on the door? In MN as long as the your weapon is concelled you are not breaking the law. If someone sees you carrying then you will be asked to leave; at which point you must do so to stay within in law. So the Mall of America has no gun notices at all entrances, but can carry as long as you do not desplay it. Any word? Thanks, Ed I just asked this in another thread here. A private business with public access must post a sign. At every publicly accessible entrance, and IIRC at least 5x7" in size. If you're caught carrying in a properly posted business, (hard/impossible to prove, if you skedaddle and there's no picture) and convicted it's a $1000 fine, which is kind of steep, but it's still just a civil forfeiture/fine, and not a misdemeanor or felony. |
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Snip/ The ordinance would make it illegal to carry a handgun, knife or billy club in government buildings Snip/ If they are really going to try and in-force the carry of knifes they might as well fine every old man in every small town in WI because they all have a pocket knife. The way cities (large and small) are handling CC, they are basically making legal carry near impossible. so me carrying a side folding knife, which i use numerous times a day at work, clipped inside my pocket(with the last 15-25% showing outside of my pocket) is illegal under current law? you have got to be joking... yes the blade length is under 3" and it is not a one hand opener. |
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Snip/ The ordinance would make it illegal to carry a handgun, knife or billy club in government buildings Snip/ If they are really going to try and in-force the carry of knifes they might as well fine every old man in every small town in WI because they all have a pocket knife. The way cities (large and small) are handling CC, they are basically making legal carry near impossible. so me carrying a side folding knife, which i use numerous times a day at work, clipped inside my pocket(with the last 15-25% showing outside of my pocket) is illegal under current law? you have got to be joking... yes the blade length is under 3" and it is not a one hand opener. Every pocket knife is not a concealed and dangerous weapon. The manner the average folding Buck or Swiss Army, etc knife is used and is intended to be used is as a tool to peal an apple, cut a rope, clean your nails, etc unless you are "caught" trying to actually use it as a weapon. (10) "Dangerous weapon" means any firearm, whether loaded or unloaded; any device designed as a weapon and capable of producing death or great bodily harm; any ligature or other instrumentality used on the throat, neck, nose, or mouth of another person to impede, partially or completely, breathing or circulation of blood; any electric weapon, as defined in s. 941.295 (1c) (a); or any other device or instrumentality which, in the manner it is used or intended to be used, is calculated or likely to produce death or great bodily harm.
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Snip/ The ordinance would make it illegal to carry a handgun, knife or billy club in government buildings Snip/ If they are really going to try and in-force the carry of knifes they might as well fine every old man in every small town in WI because they all have a pocket knife. The way cities (large and small) are handling CC, they are basically making legal carry near impossible. so me carrying a side folding knife, which i use numerous times a day at work, clipped inside my pocket(with the last 15-25% showing outside of my pocket) is illegal under current law? you have got to be joking... yes the blade length is under 3" and it is not a one hand opener. Every pocket knife is not a concealed and dangerous weapon. The manner the average folding Buck or Swiss Army, etc knife is used and is intended to be used is as a tool to peal an apple, cut a rope, clean your nails, etc unless you are "caught" trying to actually use it as a weapon. (10) "Dangerous weapon" means any firearm, whether loaded or unloaded; any device designed as a weapon and capable of producing death or great bodily harm; any ligature or other instrumentality used on the throat, neck, nose, or mouth of another person to impede, partially or completely, breathing or circulation of blood; any electric weapon, as defined in s. 941.295 (1c) (a); or any other device or instrumentality which, in the manner it is used or intended to be used, is calculated or likely to produce death or great bodily harm.
Sadly, he speaks the truth. |