Posted: 1/27/2009 2:22:29 PM EDT
Totally off the wall question, but was talking to a friend who is a Lieutenant with a local PD. We were talking about CCW and he thought (possibly mis-informed) that one could start a private investigation company (simple LLC) and go through the certs and whatnot and end up being able to carry legally. I haven't looked into it, just wondering if anyone has thought of it (probably a long time ago)
Just thought I'd bring it up. Might start some discussion. ARFCOM HOMETOWNWI PI LLC? |
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Totally off the wall question, but was talking to a friend who is a Lieutenant with a local PD. We were talking about CCW and he thought (possibly mis-informed) that one could start a private investigation company (simple LLC) and go through the certs and whatnot and end up being able to carry legally. I haven't looked into it, just wondering if anyone has thought of it (probably a long time ago)
Just thought I'd bring it up. Might start some discussion. ARFCOM HOMETOWNWI PI LLC? I don't think PI's can CCW. |
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Totally off the wall question, but was talking to a friend who is a Lieutenant with a local PD. We were talking about CCW and he thought (possibly mis-informed) that one could start a private investigation company (simple LLC) and go through the certs and whatnot and end up being able to carry legally. I haven't looked into it, just wondering if anyone has thought of it (probably a long time ago)
Just thought I'd bring it up. Might start some discussion. ARFCOM HOMETOWNWI PI LLC? I don't think PI's can CCW. RL 34.01 General conditions relating to carrying a firearm. (1) No owner or employee of an agency may carry on, about or near their person any firearm unless all of the following apply: (a) The circumstances or conditions of the owner’s or employee’s assignment as a private security person give rise to a substantial need for being armed. (am) The agency requires the owner or employee to carry a firearm when acting as a private security person. (b) The client and the agency agree in writing that the agency will assign armed security personnel to the client. (c) The agency has received a permit from the department pursuant to s. RL 34.015. (d) The owner or employee is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under s. 941.29, Stats., or any federal law. (e) Subject to ss. 111.321, 111.322 and 111.335, Stats., the owner or employee has not been convicted of a misdemeanor. (f) The owner or employee is in uniform. (fm) The owner or employee is on duty. (g) The owner or employee complies with all federal or state laws or local ordinances when carrying a firearm. (h) The owner or employee does not hold a temperately private security permit issued under s. 440.26 (5r), Stats. (i) The agency has obtained a comprehensive general liability policy pursuant to s. RL 31.034. (2) Except as provided in sub. (4), an owner or employee of any agency may not carry on, about or near the person any concealed firearm at a time when he or she is on duty. (3) Except as provided in sub. (4), a private detective, while in uniform and on duty as a private security person, may only carry on, about or near his or her person a firearm when all the conditions in sub. (1) are satisfied. This subsection does not prohibit a private detective from having on, about or near his or her person a firearm which the private detective obtained and is holding as evidence in an investigation. (4) A person who is a peace officer, as defined in s. 939.22 (22), Stats., may carry on, about or near his or her person a firearm, concealed or otherwise, when acting as a private detective or private security person, if the peace officer obtains a firearms permit from the department. The department may grant an exception from this requirement to a peace officer who submits to the department a letter from a law enforcement agency, written not more than one month before the date of receipt by the department, stating that the law enforcement agency will accept liability for the peace officer’s use of a firearm while on duty for the private detective agency. History: Cr. Register, October, 1988, No. 394, eff. 11−1−88; am. (1) (intro.), (a) to (c), cr. (1) (am), (d) to (g), (3) and (4), r. and recr. (2), Register, December, 1994, No. 468, eff. 1−1−95; am. (1) (intro.), cr. (1) (fm |
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Totally off the wall question, but was talking to a friend who is a Lieutenant with a local PD. We were talking about CCW and he thought (possibly mis-informed) that one could start a private investigation company (simple LLC) and go through the certs and whatnot and end up being able to carry legally. I haven't looked into it, just wondering if anyone has thought of it (probably a long time ago)
Just thought I'd bring it up. Might start some discussion. ARFCOM HOMETOWNWI PI LLC? I don't think PI's can CCW. RL 34.01 General conditions relating to carrying a firearm. (1) No owner or employee of an agency may carry on, about or near their person any firearm unless all of the following apply: (a) The circumstances or conditions of the owner’s or employee’s assignment as a private security person give rise to a substantial need for being armed. (am) The agency requires the owner or employee to carry a firearm when acting as a private security person. (b) The client and the agency agree in writing that the agency will assign armed security personnel to the client. (c) The agency has received a permit from the department pursuant to s. RL 34.015. (d) The owner or employee is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under s. 941.29, Stats., or any federal law. (e) Subject to ss. 111.321, 111.322 and 111.335, Stats., the owner or employee has not been convicted of a misdemeanor. (f) The owner or employee is in uniform. (fm) The owner or employee is on duty. (g) The owner or employee complies with all federal or state laws or local ordinances when carrying a firearm. (h) The owner or employee does not hold a temperately private security permit issued under s. 440.26 (5r), Stats. (i) The agency has obtained a comprehensive general liability policy pursuant to s. RL 31.034. (2) Except as provided in sub. (4), an owner or employee of any agency may not carry on, about or near the person any concealed firearm at a time when he or she is on duty. (3) Except as provided in sub. (4), a private detective, while in uniform and on duty as a private security person, may only carry on, about or near his or her person a firearm when all the conditions in sub. (1) are satisfied. This subsection does not prohibit a private detective from having on, about or near his or her person a firearm which the private detective obtained and is holding as evidence in an investigation. (4) A person who is a peace officer, as defined in s. 939.22 (22), Stats., may carry on, about or near his or her person a firearm, concealed or otherwise, when acting as a private detective or private security person, if the peace officer obtains a firearms permit from the department. The department may grant an exception from this requirement to a peace officer who submits to the department a letter from a law enforcement agency, written not more than one month before the date of receipt by the department, stating that the law enforcement agency will accept liability for the peace officer’s use of a firearm while on duty for the private detective agency. History: Cr. Register, October, 1988, No. 394, eff. 11−1−88; am. (1) (intro.), (a) to (c), cr. (1) (am), (d) to (g), (3) and (4), r. and recr. (2), Register, December, 1994, No. 468, eff. 1−1−95; am. (1) (intro.), cr. (1) (fm Layman's Terms please... |
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Totally off the wall question, but was talking to a friend who is a Lieutenant with a local PD. We were talking about CCW and he thought (possibly mis-informed) that one could start a private investigation company (simple LLC) and go through the certs and whatnot and end up being able to carry legally. I haven't looked into it, just wondering if anyone has thought of it (probably a long time ago)
Just thought I'd bring it up. Might start some discussion. ARFCOM HOMETOWNWI PI LLC? Will not work. You could open carry with the proper licensing from the state, however you can ONLY carry open, and only while on the clock. |
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Private Security Person's may be armed if: properly certified; assigned to an account requiring armed guards. Private Detectives may be armed if: in uniform; working as a Private Security Person; properly certified; assigned to an account requiring armed guards. |
| Per WI statute and Department of Regulation and Licensing Regulation, PI's licensed in the state of Wisconsin CAN carry a weapon if it is in plain view, they recieve a permit from the DRL, and complete an approved 40 hour law enforcement firearms certification course. PI's with valid permit are also subject to the prohibition from carrying in an establichment that sells alcohol, schools, and public buildings. Section 941.23 of the Wisconsin Statutes states only allows exemption to peace officers for CCW, anyone else would risk a a trip to jail, loosing the weapon, and be charged with a class A misdemeanor. |