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10/3/2008 8:27:01 PM EDT
For a WI resident,  when looking at Utah or Florida permits (or others for that matter) - what are the advantages of one over the other ?


(yes, I know none will currently work in WI)


thanks in advance,
10/3/2008 10:08:15 PM EDT
[#1]
They both cover about the same amount of states. Florida is alot more $$$ up front and to renew. You can get a Pennsylvania lic for about $25 and it cover a bunch of states. This place has classes and info. Not sure how far they are from you but they have a class coming up and they buy from you.href=gatguns.com
10/4/2008 6:26:14 AM EDT
[#2]
The only advantage that a Florida permit has over Utah (for a WI resident) is if you travel to Florida. Having the Florida permit is the only legal way to carry while there. Florida does not honor any non-resident permits other than their own. I went with the few extra bucks to get the Florida permit because my sister lives there, and I travel there.

My daughter lives in MN, and I go there the most, so I also have the MN permit. At the time I obtained my MN permit a few years ago, MN did not yet recognize the Utah permits (they now do), and they still do not recognize the Florida permit AFAIK. If you'll never go to Florida, the Utah is a better deal, as it includes neighboring MN  (FL does not). Otherwise they're pretty much the same as far as recognition.  When my MN permit expires in 2011, if WI still does not issue CCW permits, I'll probably get the Utah instead of renewing my MN permit. I'll be keeping a FL permit as well (unless WI gets CCW and FL recognizes it).  

Edit: I'll be eligible to retire in 2012. When I do, I just might move to MN and get another MN permit. Being a MN resident with a MN permit will solve a lot of these "non-resident" issues for me.  
10/6/2008 4:23:32 AM EDT
[#3]
I've been looking at the UT permit, because it covers MN, which I go to a lot more than FL., plus, getting a PA permit to cover FL is easier and cheaper than getting a MN permit from MN.
10/6/2008 4:30:35 AM EDT
[#4]
Thank you for the info!!


10/6/2008 4:57:41 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I've been looking at the UT permit, because it covers MN, which I go to a lot more than FL., plus, getting a PA permit to cover FL is easier and cheaper than getting a MN permit from MN.


Brother, I love you, but you're wrong.

UT will cover MN, but PA will NOT cover FL.  FL is a resident-only permit state, with the exception of their own non-res permit.

FL has a higher initial cost, but requires no training (hunter's safety/DD214/any NRA class is good enough).  UT classes typically run at least $100, so it's pretty much a wash.

I travel to FL at least once a year, and I've never been to UT.

I have the FL permit.
10/6/2008 12:37:18 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

FL has a higher initial cost, but requires no training (hunter's safety/DD214/any NRA class is good enough).  UT classes typically run at least $100, so it's pretty much a wash.

But you get the knowledge of the class too.  So it's not really a wash, especially for someone who isn't knowing of all of the CCW laws.  Regardless of whether the class was needed or not I planned on taking some type of class just to educate myself.
10/6/2008 1:07:07 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:

FL has a higher initial cost, but requires no training (hunter's safety/DD214/any NRA class is good enough).  UT classes typically run at least $100, so it's pretty much a wash.

But you get the knowledge of the class too.  So it's not really a wash, especially for someone who isn't knowing of all of the CCW laws.  Regardless of whether the class was needed or not I planned on taking some type of class just to educate myself.


Forgive me if I was unclear:

By all means take all the classes and get al the permits you can afford.  I would love to take a UT class, if and when the opportunity arises when I have the funds.

My response above was a point of correction to my friend PX on the fact that FL will not recognize a non-resident PA permit, and that the cost of the FL permit is comparable to UT when one factors in the training requirement for the one, and the lack thereof on the other.

On a price-per-recipricol state basis, FL and UT are damn near even, despite the application fees being vastly different.


ETA: One should study the CCW laws as well as the DF laws in ANY state that one plans on carrying in, whether they have taken a class as a requirement or not.
10/6/2008 1:55:22 PM EDT
[#8]
I don't think you were unclear, I was just pointing that out to anyone that might not have realized...
10/7/2008 9:59:49 AM EDT
[#9]
When applying for one whats the easiest route to get fingerprinted? Just walk into the local sheriffs department and ask? I have the fingerprint card that comes with the Florida application.
10/7/2008 3:34:04 PM EDT
[#10]

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When applying for one whats the easiest route to get fingerprinted? Just walk into the local sheriffs department and ask? I have the fingerprint card that comes with the Florida application.


That's what I've done, in Waukesha, Milwaukee, and Charlottesville, VA.
10/7/2008 7:47:31 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
When applying for one whats the easiest route to get fingerprinted? Just walk into the local sheriffs department and ask? I have the fingerprint card that comes with the Florida application.


Who is your CLEO?  Fl & New Hampshire fit nice in you wallet Now Penn is another story
10/8/2008 3:59:36 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
When applying for one whats the easiest route to get fingerprinted? Just walk into the local sheriffs department and ask? I have the fingerprint card that comes with the Florida application.


Who is your CLEO?  Fl & New Hampshire fit nice in you wallet Now Penn is another story


You may copy and reduce the PA permit to a size that fits your wallet.  Permits are issued by the counties with no standard format, and Centre County (the one that everyone gets (thank you Sherriff Nau) has what seems to be a huge chit.
10/8/2008 8:51:59 AM EDT
[#13]
It would be cool if all the states were legal CCW, and the federal government just ran a program so these issues wouldn't happen.  

Obviously you want to be able to carry in every state.  Hopefully Wisconsin figures it out soon and finally has CCW.