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12/4/2006 7:00:46 AM EDT
Defensive Edge Staff will be conducting a Cold Weather Handgun Course at the Driftless Rifle Club on Sunday December 17th.  Cost is $55.  This couse is open to everyone.  More details to follow.

CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
Chief Instructor
SLR15 Rifles
TheDefensiveEdge.com
12/4/2006 7:41:48 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Defensive Edge Staff will be conducting a Cold Weather Handgun Course at the Driftless Rifle Club on Sunday December 17th.  Cost is $55.  This couse is open to everyone.  More details to follow.

CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
Chief Instructor
SLR15 Rifles
TheDefensiveEdge.com


I'm also interested, let me know when you get the times figured out!
12/10/2006 9:03:58 AM EDT
[#2]
Sully, do you have a time yet?

Anyone else thinking about coming?????? I want to go but I dont want to be the only one ;)
12/10/2006 2:46:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Don't let that bother you... I'd go even if I thought I was gonna be the only one....

I would go, but I can't swing the cash this close to X-mas
12/10/2006 3:44:05 PM EDT
[#4]
I here ya. Luckily for me my Dad is borrowing me the money so I can go ;)
12/11/2006 7:34:34 AM EDT
[#5]
Start time is 0900hrs.  This is a half day shoot, plus I am sure there will be some conversing over lunch.

CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
Chief Instructor
SLR15 Rifles
TheDefensiveEdge.com
12/11/2006 11:36:13 AM EDT
[#6]
Okay. I plan on going. Just pay for the courses over the internet thru the DETC website?

What is all needed?
12/11/2006 2:33:08 PM EDT
[#7]

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Okay. I plan on going. Just pay for the courses over the internet thru the DETC website?

What is all needed?


Yes you just pay for them and DE.


This course is based on dealing with cold weather issues of carry, presentation from heavy clothing, shooting with heavy clothing on, manipulations with numb and stiff fingers, and performing with gloves on. This course has been set up for those people who take their own and loved ones self defense serious enough to carry a pistol in our fine cooler climate, that they will be able to get some quality range time which deals with these real world issues. This course is designed as a half day course.

There is no prerequisite for this course, although I do expect you to be a safe and competent pistol handler. This is not a permit to carry course so it will not be based on legal aspects or basic pistolcraft fundamentals. This course is topic specific and is open to all that are open minded and willing to learn.


Bring warm clothes, your handgun, a decent holster, gloves, and a willingness to learn.

Ohhh some amo might not hurt either


ETA: Make sure you bring drinks and food (you can get dehydrated in cold weather).
12/12/2006 3:16:07 PM EDT
[#8]
I understand that this course is more or less designed for people that carry in the winter, but is it alright to bring a drop leg holster (I would bring a belt holster but do not have one for my gun right now)?  Also, what is an expected round count?

One more thing, is anyone else from Madison going that would like to carpool?  Should I bring my AR for the afternoon?

So many questions!  :)
12/12/2006 5:16:09 PM EDT
[#9]

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I understand that this course is more or less designed for people that carry in the winter, but is it alright to bring a drop leg holster (I would bring a belt holster but do not have one for my gun right now)?  Also, what is an expected round count?

One more thing, is anyone else from Madison going that would like to carpool?  Should I bring my AR for the afternoon?

So many questions!  :)



IIRC you shoot a Glock 17 correct?

I will be going up for the armorers course the day before. If you want I can leave my holster up at BC's.
The wifey will only allow me out for one of the days this weekend so I had to choose either this or the armorers.

Bring a couple hundred rounds and you should be good to go (of course more is always better). I always bring extra to every class I take just because I scared the heck out of myself one time and came home from class with literally 10 rounds left (man I was scared I would run out)

At BC's a AR is always usefull if you have some downtime.
12/12/2006 5:25:48 PM EDT
[#10]
none,

That G17 (it is a C actually) is now in the hands of MisterPX.  I was planning on bringing my Sig P220R.  I know it's not what you want to hear, but I am moving away from Glocks (gasp!  I know!  The whole training crowd thinks I am an idiot!).  I found that I shot my Sig better that that Glock.  Is a high-ride 6004 good to go or not?  It sits high enough that the butt of the gun is under my jacket.

Thanks.

PS  Did you still want that sight?

12/13/2006 4:17:51 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
none,

That G17 (it is a C actually) is now in the hands of MisterPX.  I was planning on bringing my Sig P220R.  I know it's not what you want to hear, but I am moving away from Glocks (gasp!  I know!  The whole training crowd thinks I am an idiot!).  I found that I shot my Sig better that that Glock.  Is a high-ride 6004 good to go or not?  It sits high enough that the butt of the gun is under my jacket.

Thanks.

PS  Did you still want that sight?



Some of us don't think you are crazy.
12/13/2006 7:18:53 AM EDT
[#12]
Loadout:

Pistol
Holster.  We recommend a concealable holster for the clothing work.
Belt that works well with your holster
3-magazines or speed loaders with carrier.
200rds pistol ammunition (minimum)
Eye & Ear Protection
Gloves
Dress for the weather as we will shoot in a blizzard or mud.

CY6
Greg Sullivan "Sully"
Chief Instructor
SLR15 Rifles
TheDefensiveEdge.com

12/13/2006 2:30:30 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Dress for the weather as we will shoot in a blizzard or mud.


So far, dry & high around 40.  Nice.  
12/13/2006 6:46:54 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Dress for the weather as we will shoot in a blizzard or mud.


So far, dry & high around 40.  Nice.  


Yeah it's BS... handgun 1 should've been Cold Weather Handgun ;) It was rainy, muddy and cold.
12/15/2006 4:59:40 AM EDT
[#15]
Alright, I'm bringing my new suppressor so anyone who wants can put some rounds through it.  And I just picked up an Advantage Arms conversion kit for my Glock to enjoy cheap practice (though I haven't tried it yet).  So that's coming too.

Who all is coming, besides me???  I'd hate to be playing in a corner by myself.  
12/15/2006 7:17:00 AM EDT
[#16]
I think I am going to sign up today.  If I do, where can I get directions?
12/15/2006 7:17:54 AM EDT
[#17]
I think I am going to sign up today.  If I do, where can I get directions?

Whoops!  Noob double-tapped!

Just signed up.  Looking forward to meeting some of you guys.  I e-mailed DE for directions, but won't be able to check e-mail this weekend.  Can anyone IM me an address or map?
12/15/2006 10:51:32 AM EDT
[#18]
IM sent.

CY6
bulletcatchR
12/15/2006 11:09:41 AM EDT
[#19]
Jeez,  I wish I could make this class.  
12/17/2006 4:36:58 PM EDT
[#20]
That was fun  

BulletcatchR, thanks as always for the hospitality and lunch.  Yummy.

Hyperformer, it was a pleasure to meet you!  I hope to see you at future classes too.

Sully, as always I really appreciate your critiques and knowledge.  Thanks for sharing!
12/17/2006 7:13:08 PM EDT
[#21]
I wanted to go, but I had to go to a stupid graduation thing in madison for my uncle that is graduating from uw madison, waste of time :(

I hope to go next time!
12/19/2006 8:29:15 AM EDT
[#22]
That WAS a fun....and educational too!  I learned a lot, and have much to practice.  For my first class, this was an excellent experience.  I would recommend this to anyone looking to hone their shooting skills.  I truely lucked out with this being a small class.

Sully is a very patient and informative instructor and I can tell his wealth of knowledge encompasses quite a lot!

Glenn_r, thanks for you help and input as well.  Thanks escpecially for showing me a few of the "toys".

BulletcatchR, great lunch and great range!  

I'm looking forward to some more training with DE.  It's just a matter of time and money now that I am past the "first class jitters".
12/19/2006 5:49:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Glad to here it. You need to come to the next carbine shoot. Any Class with Greg is great and I always walk away with something new I learned.
12/19/2006 6:04:01 PM EDT
[#24]

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Glad to here it. You need to come to the next carbine shoot. Any Class with Greg is great and I always walk away with something new I learned.


When is the next class that you're attending? I'll make sure and go too!@ :)
12/20/2006 8:33:50 AM EDT
[#25]
I think I will try to make the cold weather carbine course in April.  The half day course seemed to be a good way to get my feet wet, before jumping into a two day course.

That way a noob like myself can learn about what gear works or doesn't and what is more or less expected so as not to be a drag on the class.
12/20/2006 5:20:57 PM EDT
[#26]

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I think I will try to make the cold weather carbine course in April.  The half day course seemed to be a good way to get my feet wet, before jumping into a two day course.

That way a noob like myself can learn about what gear works or doesn't and what is more or less expected so as not to be a drag on the class.



Don't worry about that as long as you are learning noone will say anything or even think anything against you. We are all there to learn from one of the best IMHO and to have a good time (if you are stressing about slowing down the class then you aren't having fun).
12/20/2006 6:54:02 PM EDT
[#27]
April Cold weather carbine ... I'm down for that... I start to get an Itch around April anyhow and need to get out and do some shooting.  So start saving you ammo boys and I'll see ya there.....
12/21/2006 1:49:23 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
I think I will try to make the cold weather carbine course in April.  The half day course seemed to be a good way to get my feet wet, before jumping into a two day course.

That way a noob like myself can learn about what gear works or doesn't and what is more or less expected so as not to be a drag on the class.


Oh I am so there!
12/21/2006 2:49:07 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm hoping to have an SLR15 by then... I'll come and show you how it's done if you want ;)