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AR15.COM
11/26/2012 11:06:35 PM EDT
Can you do a bill of sale or do you have to use a certain form for the documentation if so could you point me in the right direction.


Thanks
Erik
11/27/2012 12:30:48 AM EDT
[#1]
This is not required in washington state. However if you want it for your own records, you can just get creative and type something up. There is a state form, but I can't seem to find it.
11/27/2012 1:42:33 AM EDT
[#2]
The voluntary state form for pistols is at http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652004.pdf.
You don't have to use it and both the seller and the buyer have to sign it.  I guess it makes sense if you want an official record of the sale for some reason.
You can also use it to report a gun as lost.
11/27/2012 5:21:47 AM EDT
[#3]
I use a bill of sale.
11/27/2012 8:05:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the replies.  Thanks MJL for the link to that site.
11/27/2012 8:12:47 AM EDT
[#5]
WOW!  SO, let me recap as I'm a new resident here.  If I want to sell a pistol to someone or buy one used from someone, there's no paperwork to fill out?  Way different from MI.  I have mixed feelings about that one......
11/27/2012 12:12:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
WOW!  SO, let me recap as I'm a new resident here.  If I want to sell a pistol to someone or buy one used from someone, there's no paperwork to fill out?  Way different from MI.  I have mixed feelings about that one......


I think someone is about be educated in how the locals feel about transplants expressing discomfort with how things here are not like the place they were seemingly all too happy to leave.
11/27/2012 12:27:39 PM EDT
[#7]
So arctic warrior I don't mean to be rude, but are you saying you like the government to know where all firearms are and who's got them. Personally I like the fact of a bill of sale or other forms  so its just me that knows.
11/27/2012 1:35:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Nope, y'all got me wrong.  I want the .gov to mind their own fucking business and quit meddling in the affairs of the state and local government.  I'm just trying to learn all that I can about my new "home."  I just found it odd is all.  I definitely want some kind of paper trail,  preferable just between the seller and the purchaser.  This way, if my gun that I sell is ever used in a crime, I have proof that I actually sold it.  

I'm not insulting anyone Boomer, least of all you, or the people of the great State of Washington.  I am not advocating changing anything, just trying to learn is all.  As far as being a transplant, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I'm a Veteran of this nations Armed Forces, and a Disabled Veteran at that.  I've payed my dues, so I'll live where in this great nation I choose.  

I simply found it odd and interesting that there were no checks is all.  I don't necessarily mind as I personally believe every law abiding American should own and carry a firearm.  That alone is what keeps the would be King Georges at bay.......

Why are people in here so quick to just jump all over people?  Read, observe, digest, and reflect.  If you still think something is not right, then jump down a guys throat.  Just sayin...............
11/27/2012 8:00:41 PM EDT
[#9]
If we reflect on the way your first statement came across there will probably be more throat-jumping-down. Glad you're good with freedom to transfer property without government interference, just didn't come across that way.

Quoted:
Nope, y'all got me wrong.  I want the .gov to mind their own fucking business and quit meddling in the affairs of the state and local government.  I'm just trying to learn all that I can about my new "home."  I just found it odd is all.  I definitely want some kind of paper trail,  preferable just between the seller and the purchaser.  This way, if my gun that I sell is ever used in a crime, I have proof that I actually sold it.  

I'm not insulting anyone Boomer, least of all you, or the people of the great State of Washington.  I am not advocating changing anything, just trying to learn is all.  As far as being a transplant, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I'm a
Veteran of this nations Armed Forces, and a Disabled Veteran at that.  I've payed my dues, so I'll live where in this great nation I choose.  

I simply found it odd and interesting that there were no checks is all.  I don't necessarily mind as I personally believe every law abiding American should own and carry a firearm.  That alone is what keeps the would be King Georges at bay.......

Why are people in here so quick to just jump all over people?  Read, observe, digest, and reflect.  If you still think something is not right, then jump down a guys throat.  Just sayin...............


11/28/2012 7:29:40 AM EDT
[#10]
I'm not a big fan of Leviathan.  I'm just a guy who want's to be left alone to live my life free from undue interference and influence.  I didn't look at the link until after the fact.  I like the form and the fact that I can have a record of a sale simply in-case of a knock at my door from Leviathan telling me that a firearm that I used to own was used in a crime.  I don't want to be robbed of my freedoms because of someone else's stupidity.
11/28/2012 9:26:17 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Why are people in here so quick to just jump all over people?  Read, observe, digest, and reflect.  If you still think something is not right, then jump down a guys throat.  Just sayin...............


Fair enough. I don't think anyone jumped down your throat, though, especially by the old WAHTF standards.

That knife also cuts both ways. Before claiming to have mixed feelings about our laws being less restrictive than somewhere else, one might take the time to understand how many of the long term residents feel about how much this area has changed in the last 25 years, a lot of which has been driven by newcomers wanting to make this place just like the one they left. Not that this applies to you given your subsequent statements.
11/28/2012 2:34:34 PM EDT
[#12]
Why in the hell would some one ask for a bill of sale?  I often will not buy a gun just out of principle if that is the case.

Follow the law, which is don't sell to out of state or to a felon.  Now, how do you know either of these?  You don't, and are not required to do any research.  If someone commits a crime with your gun....well, thats on them.  You have ZERO liability nor do you have to prove you sold the gun.

If gun owners don't trust other gun owners......then we have already lost.

11/28/2012 7:30:26 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Why are people in here so quick to just jump all over people?  Read, observe, digest, and reflect.  If you still think something is not right, then jump down a guys throat.  Just sayin...............


Fair enough. I don't think anyone jumped down your throat, though, especially by the old WAHTF standards.

That knife also cuts both ways. Before claiming to have mixed feelings about our laws being less restrictive than somewhere else, one might take the time to understand how many of the long term residents feel about how much this area has changed in the last 25 years, a lot of which has been driven by newcomers wanting to make this place just like the one they left. Not that this applies to you given your subsequent statements.


HAHAHA, I get it.  I am not gonna try and change anything to "back home standards."  If I were gonna, our libtards back in Michigan had balls.........  Most were UAW types and would gladly get into a fist fight to prove their point.  Albeit, some had no brain and were mindless zombies who voted the way they were instructed too.....  How is one to know how the locals feel unless educated?  I am still learning and being told that the "transients" are not as well received by the locals......  I can appreciate that as I would not want someone moving into my area and attempting to change things.  Trust me, I'm from SE Michigan, the Detroit area in particular.  Be happy that you don't have Muslims building Mosques with huge towers and broadcasting "Call to Prayer" over the loud speakers.  That shit actually goes on back home.  It blows my damn mind........
11/28/2012 7:55:06 PM EDT
[#14]
I want a bill of sale as a buyer or seller. I can provr I don't have it anymore if I sell.  And if I'm the buyer I can prove I own it, or at least who sold it if somehow it turns ouf stolen.
11/29/2012 2:03:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
[Before claiming to have mixed feelings about our laws being less restrictive than somewhere else, one might take the time to understand how many of the long term residents feel about how much this area has changed in the last 25 years, a lot of which has been driven by newcomers wanting to make this place just like the one they left.



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