Posted: 3/20/2010 8:46:02 PM EDT
| I signed up at Warehouse sports in Federal way. A new twist is if you pre-pay you can save even more. $100 for the course. It is April 10th. Anyone else? |
| I took and completed the Utah CCW course last Saturday on March 13th and I’m ready to mail off my completed application sometime this coming week, and I made a couple of color-copies of the original document with the ‘Red’ ink stamp and original notary stamp (for my own records) and I already had my finger print card(s) and Pass Port picture(s) done up earlier; as I was trying to make the February class, but ended up having to work that weekend. |
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Good on ya for keeping a copy of the completed application GM.
The Utah Course fulfills the training requirement for the Oregon CHL. I haven't confirmed it, but I have heard that the Sheriff of Grant County Oregon is going to be in Western WA (Puyallup Show?) on March 27th assisting people with obtaining the Oregon Permit. More if I can confirm it. |
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Good on ya for keeping a copy of the completed application GM. The Utah Course fulfills the training requirement for the Oregon CHL. I haven't confirmed it, but I have heard that the Sheriff of Grant County Oregon is going to be in Western WA (Puyallup Show?) on March 27th assisting people with obtaining the Oregon Permit. More if I can confirm it. I would like to get my Oregon CHL, what is required. I got my Utah CHL last year, do they just want a copy of the training cert? |
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That came across the wa-ccw yahoo list. The form has been posted to the files section, but I was unsure from the thread whether you would need fingerprint cards or not –– apparently they are trying to raise money for a fingerprint machine.
Sheriff Glenn Palmer of Grant County Oregon is planning to be at the Washington Arms Collectors' show at the Puyallup fairgrounds on March 27 and possibly March 28 to take applications for Oregon carry permits. See handgunlaw.us for the requirements and the application form and contact Sheriff Palmer at gepalmer400 centurytel net for particulars. For another report of Sheriff Palmer see palegreenfire.com and search Oregon ccw. As always, verify before you travel. I took the class in January and mailed in my paperwork the next week. They've charged my CC but I haven't seen a response yet (word was that it was taking around 60 days to get them processed). The class is excellent and I highly recommend it, and it sounds like a good way to meet fellow WAHTF members (Drang and his wife were in the one I went to). |
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I'll post up the links to the forms in a bit.
The training requirement is that you must have completed a NRA certified handgun safety course or a handgun safety course taught by a NRA certified instructor. The Utah Course fulfills the requirement. If might be worth picking up a set of fingerprints just in case he can't do them. If your local agency gives you a hard time, try going to LESA in Tacoma. They charge $5 and don't care what the prints are for. |
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If might be worth picking up a set of fingerprints just in case he can't do them. If your local agency gives you a hard time, try going to LESA in Tacoma. They charge $5 and don't care what the prints are for. FYI the folks at the Kitsap Sheriff's office are great. You may have to wait a few minutes while they handle other folks issues, but I was in and out in under 30 minutes. Now I'm thinking I should have gotten 2 sets. |
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Quoted: If might be worth picking up a set of fingerprints just in case he can't do them. If your local agency gives you a hard time, try going to LESA in Tacoma. They charge $5 and don't care what the prints are for. Will they provide the form? EDIT: Looks like it. $5.00 for first form, $3 for additional. Kent PD doesn't care what the forms are for, except that if they're not for them, they don't provide them.  The other local agencies seem to have the same policy. |
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Here is the information and links
Remember, Sheriff Palmer does NOT want these applications pre-sent to him in Oregon. He wants applicants to bring the filled out apps. with them to the WAC show on 27 March in Puyallap. Sheriff Palmer will have to print and photograph you there in PERSON. He reminded me today that a min. of TWO good photo ID's are also a MUST. Passport, Drivers License, mil ID, etc. Sheriff Palmer seems like a good man who strongly supports 2nd Amendment and doesn't get anal about the other counties down there whimpin out over "compelling reason" issues. Below, the first link is the actual application, the 2nd is the link that gives an overview of Grant County and Sheriff Palmer etc. Grant County Oregon CHL Application Grant County Oregon Sheriff's Office Contact Information |
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Here is the information and links Remember, Sheriff Palmer does NOT want these applications pre-sent to him in Oregon. He wants applicants to bring the filled out apps. with them to the WAC show on 27 March in Puyallap. Sheriff Palmer will have to print and photograph you there in PERSON. He reminded me today that a min. of TWO good photo ID's are also a MUST. Passport, Drivers License, mil ID, etc. Sheriff Palmer seems like a good man who strongly supports 2nd Amendment and doesn't get anal about the other counties down there whimpin out over "compelling reason" issues. Below, the first link is the actual application, the 2nd is the link that gives an overview of Grant County and Sheriff Palmer etc. Grant County Oregon CHL Application Grant County Oregon Sheriff's Office Contact Information Do you think my drivers licence and Utah permit will work, those are the only two photo ID's I have. |
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I would think so, they are both government issued. Might want to click the link for their contact info and give them a call on Monday though. The way I read it my "DL, WA CPL, passport, is all I need to apply for the OR CPL? Or is your class needed first? It is later in the timeline, can I apply and then sent the Cert you earn with your class later? I am a bit confused and would have IM'ed this but I think more would be interested. OR is a big one for me because my son lives there and I plan to do all my high end purchases there after the State raises taxes. 
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I signed up at Warehouse sports in Federal way. A new twist is if you pre-pay you can save even more. $100 for the course. It is April 10th. Anyone else? I would SOOO be there with you, but I'll be out of the state that weekend for my sisters wedding. I really want to get my Utah permit. |
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You don't need my class specifically, you need to have a handgun safety class that is either 1) Certified by the NRA or 2) taught by an instructor who is certified by the NRA. The Utah course is but one of many options.
I'm not an expert on Oregon law, but I would imagine that you need to have the training completed at the time of application. Give Grant County Oregon a call and let us all know! |
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I will be getting my OR CHL as well this weekend. He has plenty of fingerprint cards from what I understand. There is also an online course that will meet the training requirements. It is:
http://www.mdgunsafety.com/ I took the low-bandwidth version and it was about 15-20 minutes long. |
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Good on ya for keeping a copy of the completed application GM. The Utah Course fulfills the training requirement for the Oregon CHL. I haven't confirmed it, but I have heard that the Sheriff of Grant County Oregon is going to be in Western WA (Puyallup Show?) on March 27th assisting people with obtaining the Oregon Permit. More if I can confirm it. I would like to get my Oregon CHL, what is required. I got my Utah CHL last year, do they just want a copy of the training cert? The OR permit is easy. You can go to the Multnomah County Sheriff in Portland and sit through their little (2 hour) lecture. I'm not sure what day it is on (every Wednesday?) Then you go back a couple weeks later and get finger printed. Non residents just need to include a note with the application explaining WHY they want an OR CPL. I just said that I am always in OR for business and visiting family. I doubt they even read it. |
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I heard the Utah permit isn't valid in WA unless you DO NOT LIVE IN WA. It is for non-residents. Is this true? If so, could I just get the Utah permit and not renew my WA CPL? This is true, there had been some differing of opinions over the last few months, but I believe that the following is pretty self explanitory. RCW 9.41.073
Concealed pistol license — Reciprocity. (1)(a) A person licensed to carry a pistol in a state the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized to carry a concealed pistol in this state if: (i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons under twenty-one years of age; and (ii) The licensing state requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons who apply for a concealed pistol license. (b) This section applies to a license holder from another state only while the license holder is not a resident of this state. A license holder from another state must carry the handgun in compliance with the laws of this state. (2) The attorney general shall periodically publish a list of states the laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued under the laws of the state of Washington and which meet the requirements of subsection (1)(a)(i) and (ii) of this section. [2004 c 148 § 1.] http://apps.leg.wa.gov/Rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.073 |
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Man i have been slacking on getting my OR permit done, I might have to head over to the wetside this weekend  .Hey if you do let us know! Typically there is an attempt at lunch or something. Will do, things are still up in the air a little bit. I have some prior arrangements for Sat-Sun but I may be able to get out of the saturday deal. 
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Quoted: I will be getting my OR CHL as well this weekend. He has plenty of fingerprint cards from what I understand. There is also an online course that will meet the training requirements. It is: http://www.mdgunsafety.com/ I took the low-bandwidth version and it was about 15-20 minutes long. You must correct the errors on the form before continuing.
 WASHINGTON STATE USES "*" IN SOME LICENSES, YOU FUCKS!!!  |
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Quoted: You don't need my class specifically, you need to have a handgun safety class that is either 1) Certified by the NRA or 2) taught by an instructor who is certified by the NRA. The Utah course is but one of many options. Oh. Never mind. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile ETA:  |
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huh? Does the UT training meet the requirements for the OR permit? 53-5-704. Division duties –– Permit to carry concealed firearm –– Certification for concealed firearms instructor –– Requirements for issuance –– Violation –– Denial, suspension, or revocation –– Appeal procedure.
(8) (a) An applicant for certification as a Utah concealed firearms instructor shall: (i) be at least 21 years of age; (ii) be currently eligible to possess a firearm under Section 76-10-503 and federal law; (iii) have a current National Rifle Association certification or its equivalent as determined by the division; and (iv) for certificates issued beginning July 1, 2006, have taken a course of instruction and passed a certification test as described in Subsection (8)(c). (b) An instructor's certification is valid for three years from the date of issuance, unless revoked by the division. (c) (i) In order to obtain initial certification or renew a certification, an instructor shall attend an instructional course and pass a test under the direction of the division. Quoted:
You don't need my class specifically, you need to have a handgun safety class that is either 1) Certified by the NRA or 2) taught by an instructor who is certified by the NRA. The Utah course is but one of many options. There are a few other options as well, but yes, the Utah Course works for Oregon. I have this directly from Sheriff Palmer. This is because one of the Oregon qualifications for a course is that it is certified by the NRA or taught by an NRA Certified Instructor. Utah requires that a certified instructor have a secondary qualification as either an NRA Certified Instructor or Law Enforcement Certified Instructor. |
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Quoted: So, my, um, frustration with the fact that I couldn't get the Maryland handgun safety thingy to work for me, because of the * in my WA DL#, was for nothing.Quoted: 53-5-704. Division duties –– Permit to carry concealed firearm –– Certification for concealed firearms instructor –– Requirements for issuance –– Violation –– Denial, suspension, or revocation –– Appeal procedure.Does the UT training meet the requirements for the OR permit? (8) (a) An applicant for certification as a Utah concealed firearms instructor shall: (i) be at least 21 years of age; (ii) be currently eligible to possess a firearm under Section 76-10-503 and federal law; (iii) have a current National Rifle Association certification or its equivalent as determined by the division; and (iv) for certificates issued beginning July 1, 2006, have taken a course of instruction and passed a certification test as described in Subsection (8)(c). (b) An instructor's certification is valid for three years from the date of issuance, unless revoked by the division. (c) (i) In order to obtain initial certification or renew a certification, an instructor shall attend an instructional course and pass a test under the direction of the division. Quoted: You don't need my class specifically, you need to have a handgun safety class that is either 1) Certified by the NRA or 2) taught by an instructor who is certified by the NRA. The Utah course is but one of many options. There are a few other options as well, but yes, the Utah Course works for Oregon. I have this directly from Sheriff Palmer. This is because one of the Oregon qualifications for a course is that it is certified by the NRA or taught by an NRA Certified Instructor. Utah requires that a certified instructor have a secondary qualification as either an NRA Certified Instructor or Law Enforcement Certified Instructor. Actually, I had already decided to call and see if my NRA Basic Pistol Instructor certification would suffice––logically, it should––when I saw that post above and it hit me that I had the answer already... |
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Quoted: Got mine in the mail today! Now I have the required 2 pieces of photo ID to apply for the Oregon permit   The application for an OR permit I downloaded only required one piece of photo ID. Two pieces of ID required, only one of which must be photo ID.Crap, did I just make the line longer?  |
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Got mine in the mail today! Now I have the required 2 pieces of photo ID to apply for the Oregon permit The application for an OR permit I downloaded only required one piece of photo ID. Two pieces of ID required, only one of which must be photo ID.
Crap, did I just make the line longer?
I misread it the first time through.
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I will be getting my OR CHL as well this weekend. He has plenty of fingerprint cards from what I understand. There is also an online course that will meet the training requirements. It is: http://www.mdgunsafety.com/ I took the low-bandwidth version and it was about 15-20 minutes long. Thanks for the link...You Rock!!!! I just took the course and will be also getting my OR CHL this weekend. |
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Quoted: I hope that one photo id is needed, i don't know where my passport is at the moment. line should be crazy this morning.Quoted: Got mine in the mail today! Now I have the required 2 pieces of photo ID to apply for the Oregon permit The application for an OR permit I downloaded only required one piece of photo ID. Two pieces of ID required, only one of which must be photo ID.Crap, did I just make the line longer? update: very fast and efficient. They are right up front at the entrance across from the WAC membership tables. 2nd id definitely does not need to be a photo id, maryland training site was what they recommended and make sure you bring a photocopy of your photo id or you're going to have to sit in the WAC membership line to have them make a copy for you(which took longer than the whole OR process.) Thanks to everyone here who posted the heads up on this. |
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Quoted: If might be worth picking up a set of fingerprints just in case he can't do them. If your local agency gives you a hard time, try going to LESA in Tacoma. They charge $5 and don't care what the prints are for. I told Mrs. Drang that I was going to go to LESA on my day off, she requested that I wait until she could arrange to go with. Then she found this outfit in Renton, Alliance2020, that does background screening for businesses and the like, and does fingerprinting on a walk-in basis. Costs more than LESA, but since were meeting the contractor for the remodel this morning, and I was driving her to work afterward, this was more-or-less on the way, and so deemed superior. (I said "Yes, dear." )Walked in, were told "We cannot do prints for a CPL." This is not for a Washington CPL, it's for a Utah CHL, as long as they are on a blue-and-white, we send them in and we're good. "But the police say we can't do these." You can't for a WA CPL, this is not for WA, it's for UT. "Let me check." "Okay, but if the deny it because we're not police, we're not refunding the money."  We then sat cooling our heels for the next 45 minutes while she attempted to unfuck someone's network access over the phone. (Note to businesses, if you have a notice to customers on the front counter that they will be taken care of within 10 minutes of signing in, don't try to argue them out of doing business with you, and then ignore them for 45 minutes.) I was under the impression that they used scanners, no, it was ink-and-roller time. I will say that she did a very good job of printing us. Too bad about the shitty customer "service." Tonfa Spartan: They do "house calls", it might be worthwhile to arrange for them to show up to do prints after the class is over. Presumably, under those circumstances, they wouldn't try to tell you your students would have to go to Utah to do it. Just a thought.
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| I'm a Notary, but I don't do prints and photos. Utah BCI recommends that a FBI certified fingerprint tech take them to prevent them from getting kicked back. Prints are $5 at LESA and photos are $5 at Costco. Also, if I took only 6 minutes per student for prints and photos, which is really husseling, a 20 student class would take 2 hours for prints and photos alone. |
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Thanks for the recommendation Drang,
But I'm not sure that I want to associate myself with folks like that. A couple weeks ago I was printed at LESA for a state professional license that I was applying for. In and out in 5 minutes. and it only cost $5. As far as I see it the system is working fine as it is. Quoted:
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If might be worth picking up a set of fingerprints just in case he can't do them. If your local agency gives you a hard time, try going to LESA in Tacoma. They charge $5 and don't care what the prints are for. I told Mrs. Drang that I was going to go to LESA on my day off, she requested that I wait until she could arrange to go with. Then she found this outfit in Renton, Alliance2020, that does background screening for businesses and the like, and does fingerprinting on a walk-in basis. Costs more than LESA, but since were meeting the contractor for the remodel this morning, and I was driving her to work afterward, this was more-or-less on the way, and so deemed superior. (I said "Yes, dear." )Walked in, were told "We cannot do prints for a CPL." This is not for a Washington CPL, it's for a Utah CHL, as long as they are on a blue-and-white, we send them in and we're good. "But the police say we can't do these." You can't for a WA CPL, this is not for WA, it's for UT. "Let me check." "Okay, but if the deny it because we're not police, we're not refunding the money." We then sat cooling our heels for the next 45 minutes while she attempted to unfuck someone's network access over the phone. (Note to businesses, if you have a notice to customers on the front counter that they will be taken care of within 10 minutes of signing in, don't try to argue them out of doing business with you, and then ignore them for 45 minutes.) I was under the impression that they used scanners, no, it was ink-and-roller time. I will say that she did a very good job of printing us. Too bad about the shitty customer "service." Tonfa Spartan: They do "house calls", it might be worthwhile to arrange for them to show up to do prints after the class is over. Presumably, under those circumstances, they wouldn't try to tell you your students would have to go to Utah to do it. Just a thought. |
My Utah permit came in the mail today I took the class on 18 Feb at the Sportsman's Warehouse in Federal Way with Tonfra. It was a good class, informative and to the point. I would recommend it. I was going to do the FAS class but I live less than ten minutes from Sportsman's and got to support a fellow Arfcomer to boot.
Sir James... |