Posted: 5/12/2009 11:14:40 AM EDT
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What is wrong with shopping at Walmart?
What is wrong with saving money? If Target had the same stuff for less money would you shop there instead? If one store doesn't have what I need, I'll go to another that does. If Walmart has the same thing that ten other stores have and charges less, why should I spend more money for it somewhere else? It's free enterprise, nothing else. Those that choose to hold out on higher prices will soon fail from lack of customers. Pretty simple, I'd say. |
| the only thing wrong with walmart is the same thing wrong with cabelas when one retailer can name their own price they are willing too pay from a supplier, they force whosalers / manufactuers too cut their cost. number one cost in manufacturing, labor best way too beat labor cost go off shore.Witch comes full circle american jobs die off when we are not the ones producing we become a service society and become dependant on foriegn interests. We the sheeple will shop where it is cheapest too get the most we can for our $$$$ (im as guilty as the next guy) it just spirals from there. In my openion for what it is worth our consumer/ service society has created a monster that has made walmart ,cabelas, home depot ,lowes ext ext the only way too offord too live a lifestyle beyond our means. (kind of falls inline with the effect of UAW making an expensive car average joe cant offord so we look too honda ext and now those jobs are dying). |
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If you really don't get it, I don't have time to explain.  ^ This. ETA: If you think that WalMart sells quality stuff, great. IMO spending money at a place that the jeans don't last a year, shoes that have no arch, and plastic shit that won't last a season be my guest Me I will buy the $80 Stihl maul because it will last and not break and hurt me or someone else. Try to find quality gardening tools at wally world. I have not gone in a a few years but most of what I saw wasn't worth taking home. |
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best way too beat labor cost go off shore.Witch comes full circle american jobs die off when we are not the ones producing we become a service society and become dependant on foriegn interests. We the sheeple will shop where it is cheapest too get the most we can for our $$$$ (im as guilty as the next guy) it just spirals from there. In my openion for what it is worth our consumer/ service society has created a monster that has made walmart ,cabelas, home depot ,lowes ext ext the only way too offord too live a lifestyle beyond our means. The problem with this logic is it assumes that you and I are causing the downward spiral effect. The simple fact is that this artificially inflated economy is failing. Even if we stop buying from Walmart, it'll still crash. Nothing you (singular) can do will stop it. And since it's guaranteed to crash eventually (as all invented economies require resets, and the longer between resets, the harder the fall) then I want to have as many material goods as possible when it crashes. That way, I'll have something of worth, more than paper that's revalued, or digits in a bank account that are "redistributed" from me. Maybe something I can trade for necessities of life. That means, in the meantime, it's stupid for me to not shop at the cheapest place I can find. As much as I detest many of the consumers in Walmart, it's still nearly the lowest cost provider of goods. |
| I choose not to shop there because they intentionally sell products below the cost that a local shop can sell them to put them out of business, then the people who were able to survive without food stamps or as much other government assistance while working for a mom and pop shop have to go to work for Walmart where they make less money and statistically are more likely to need government assistance. The mom and pop also lose their business and have to take a lower paying job with increased probability of going on government assistance. Profit/wages that these people would have been spending locally now goes outside the community to a national corporation. While 4 of the 7 richest people in America own stake in Walmart the average cashier makes around $15,000 a year, do you really thing your taxes aren't going to help them live? Can you name anywhere where the true quality of living has gone up in a town once a Walmart has moved in? And no quality of living is not just having more crap that was made with our money going to China which is a whole other topic. |
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I choose not to shop there because they intentionally sell products below the cost that a local shop can sell them to put them out of business
Again, free enterprise. You have a business. You are competing with Bob's across the street who sells the same crap as you do. You luck into 100,000 dildos for only pennies on the dollar. These happen to be the same ones that Bob's sell. You continue to sell your dildos for way under what Bob's can sell his for. Bob's can't make any sales because you've now cornered the dildo market. Bob's has to close his doors from lack of dildo sales. You win! You would do the same thing Walmart does in a heartbeat... if you could. Anyone that complains about Walmart is just jealous. They didn't make money by being Mr. Nice Guy. |
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I know of atleast one town that is better off than before Wal-mart was there. Mayfield, Ky. Town has been going down hill for awhile anyways. Not many places to work in western Ky to begin with. Walmart moved in, and I do't know of any Mom and pop that shut down. The only stores I know of that ended up closing was Kmart and EW James and sons. EW james was a small grocery chain. Obviously it was their business practices that caused them to close, not Walmart. A similar grocery store opened several years later and it is doing fine right down the road from the old EW James. Several other large chains have now opened, near WalMart, and the town is doing fine from what I gather from my in-laws.
As most people know I work at Wally World. Will be 11 years at the end of this month. I started out as a lowly salesfloor associate. When I realized I needed to make more money to support my family I worked my way up in the company. People that have no ambition are going to have a shitty paying job no matter where they work. A buddy of mine was just promoted to store manager of a store in Colorado. He has been working at Wal_mart for about 5 or so years. Tell me another company where you can go from $6 an hour to making $200,000+ in 5 years? Same as any company, you want to make money, you don't stay in the entry level positions for an entire career. Wal-Mart does not mark stuff down to put other stores out of business. Wal-Mart marks stuff down so that we can get more customers in the store. More customers = more sales/profit. If another store can't compete against Wal-Marts prices, then they need to offer something Wal-Mart does not if they want to stay in business. Free market is a lovely thing. |
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people that shop at walmart:
1. have limited mental compacity(and would sooner sacrifice the American worker for conveinance) or 2.have already given up and tend to take the path of least resistance. ..................This country used to produce stuff, now it just produces cheap consumers.............................HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN! |
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people that shop at walmart: 1. have limited mental compacity(and would sooner sacrifice the American worker for conveinance) or 2.have already given up and tend to take the path of least resistance. ..................This country used to produce stuff, now it just produces cheap consumers.............................HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN! Ahh......Limited mental capacity. The irony................................... |
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IF you can get the same items or the same quality items then go for it. An iPod is an iPod right? A book is a book.
But I'm going to spend more someplace else for a Benchmade knife that will last longer than the cheapie knives at Wal-Mart. Same for a good set of kitchen knives. Same for quality bedding. Same for a host of products. I try to buy products that fit both my budget, and my quality desires. A cheap costume for Halloween = Wal Mart. A good set of shoes to last a couple years = someplace that sells quality shoes. Or whatever. I wouldn't shop for long lasting quality tools at Wal Mart, just like I wouldn't at Harbor Freight. Neither place has the high end stuff that is going to last a couple generations. |
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people that shop at walmart: 1. have limited mental compacity(and would sooner sacrifice the American worker for conveinance) or 2.have already given up and tend to take the path of least resistance. As I stated, I shop there. Please don't misunderstand, I am not defending Walmart, only myself. I've met quite a few WAHTF'rs and they can tell you I'm not unintelligent. Likewise, it's not that I'm lazy. It's just that I'm choosing to keep more of my money for me, rather than supporting the lifestyle you want to live, (by paying you medium wages to do entry level work). Does that mean I'll sacrifice YOUR job if it means I get to keep a few bucks more, every single time I shop? You bet. Because you've failed to explain why I should have to pay more for the same product. Your only defense is so that you can make more working for somebody besides Walmart. Yeah, like I want to spend more on the same product so that you can pocket the difference (even if it's to feed your family). Fuck that, it's my money. Welcome to capitalism and the concept of personal property. If you don't want to compete against the volume oriented businesses, than offer something they don't, in product or service. It's funny, I've never seen Macy's complain about how they can't compete with Walmart.  Seems like some businesses must get the concept.
Oh, and BTW, your "sacrificing american workers" bullshit is just that, bullshit. It's physically impossible for somebody in a different continent to ring up my sale. The people helping me, no matter whether I shop at Walmart or somewhere else, are people that live and work at my location. And it will be that way forever. You simply can't do service industry tasks in a location that you're not at. That makes them American workers. They may even be here illegally, and may not be American citizens, but they're still American workers because they work in America. Quoted:
I went to Walmart to price an AR, they didn't have any... If I buy my deer rifle, 10/22 and duck gun at Walmart instead of the local shop, the local shop won't be in business when I need to get an AR, PMags or reloading supply's... Only one example. WRONG! I guess Baskin-Robbins doesn't exist because Walmart sells GV French Vanilla ice cream, right? And REI doesn't exist because Walmart sells sleeping bags and tents, right? Oh! Oh! And Les Schwab went out of business decades ago because they couldn't compete with Walmarts automotive section, right? What, all those examples aren't true? Oh, shoot! Guess we'll have to stop using the red herring "logic" that noone can compete with Walmart. 
The simple fact is, free markets are always evolving. But Walmart will never be able to be everything to everyone, and the other businesses I mentioned offer products or services that walmart doesn't. Likewise the gun shop in your example might not be able to compete with Walmart on it's 10/22 prices, but it CAN compete in service. AND it offers a product (ARs) that Walmart doesn't. You know, when you use thinking that's so obviously flawed it kinda seems to others that you're intentionally burying your head in the sand. Is that what you want them to think? If not....PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE HOLE IT'S IN..... |
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people that shop at walmart: 1. have limited mental compacity(and would sooner sacrifice the American worker for conveinance) or 2.have already given up and tend to take the path of least resistance. As I stated, I shop there. Please don't misunderstand, I am not defending Walmart, only myself. I've met quite a few WAHTF'rs and they can tell you I'm not unintelligent. Likewise, it's not that I'm lazy. It's just that I'm choosing to keep more of my money for me, rather than supporting the lifestyle you want to live, (by paying you medium wages to do entry level work). Does that mean I'll sacrifice YOUR job if it means I get to keep a few bucks more, every single time I shop? You bet. Because you've failed to explain why I should have to pay more for the same product. Your only defense is so that you can make more working for somebody besides Walmart. Yeah, like I want to spend more on the same product so that you can pocket the difference (even if it's to feed your family). Fuck that, it's my money. Welcome to capitalism and the concept of personal property. If you don't want to compete against the volume oriented businesses, than offer something they don't, in product or service. It's funny, I've never seen Macy's complain about how they can't compete with Walmart. Seems like some businesses must get the concept.
Oh, and BTW, your "sacrificing american workers" bullshit is just that, bullshit. It's physically impossible for somebody in a different continent to ring up my sale. The people helping me, no matter whether I shop at Walmart or somewhere else, are people that live and work at my location. And it will be that way forever. You simply can't do service industry tasks in a location that you're not at. That makes them American workers. They may even be here illegally, and may not be American citizens, but they're still American workers because they work in America. Quoted:
I went to Walmart to price an AR, they didn't have any... If I buy my deer rifle, 10/22 and duck gun at Walmart instead of the local shop, the local shop won't be in business when I need to get an AR, PMags or reloading supply's... Only one example. WRONG! I guess Baskin-Robbins doesn't exist because Walmart sells GV French Vanilla ice cream, right? And REI doesn't exist because Walmart sells sleeping bags and tents, right? Oh! Oh! And Les Schwab went out of business decades ago because they couldn't compete with Walmarts automotive section, right? What, all those examples aren't true? Oh, shoot! Guess we'll have to stop using the red herring "logic" that noone can compete with Walmart.
The simple fact is, free markets are always evolving. But Walmart will never be able to be everything to everyone, and the other businesses I mentioned offer products or services that walmart doesn't. Likewise the gun shop in your example might not be able to compete with Walmart on it's 10/22 prices, but it CAN compete in service. AND it offers a product (ARs) that Walmart doesn't. You know, when you use thinking that's so obviously flawed it kinda seems to others that you're intentionally burying your head in the sand. Is that what you want them to think? If not....PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE HOLE IT'S IN..... 
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people that shop at walmart: 1. have limited mental compacity(and would sooner sacrifice the American worker for conveinance) or 2.have already given up and tend to take the path of least resistance. ..................This country used to produce stuff, now it just produces cheap consumers.............................HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN! Ahh......Limited mental capacity. The irony................................... I see what you did there.... ...do it again! Ask and ye shall receive |